They also get way more media attention than any of the other clubs at the levels they've been at.
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Yeah but City cheated to use funds they otherwise wouldn't have been able to use; if Wrexham aren't doing that they shouldn't be tarred with the worst brushes.
Their advantage via their means of income isn't great, but that's a world apart from literally cheating.
Their advantage via their means of income isn't great, but that's a world apart from literally cheating.
Which is really annoying.
Their owners seem like decent people but I watched the highlights of their game yesterday and the BBC allocating more time to replays of Ryan Reynolds awkward celebrations than CHOs worldie or the pens shoot makes me kinda dislike the whole circus.
You're right, it's not cheating, but I also don't think it's a 'fair' advantage.
100% a fairytale given the complete lack of experience of the owners. Not a single person could've predicted how well it's gone.
Not sure why all the hate for them. Surely the money is based on good marketing, rather than the owners pumping money into it and not caring?
How many National League clubs have a Disney documentary, how many clubs have fans flying over from America to go games, how many clubs have global brands such as Tik Tok as a sponsor?
I'd say their sponsorship deals are fair market value rather than inflated like any of the sovereign states ones. These brands know the exposure that Wrexham get, especially in the US. They have been on tours of America and Australia as Championship/League One clubs.
How many National League clubs have a Disney documentary, how many clubs have fans flying over from America to go games, how many clubs have global brands such as Tik Tok as a sponsor?
I'd say their sponsorship deals are fair market value rather than inflated like any of the sovereign states ones. These brands know the exposure that Wrexham get, especially in the US. They have been on tours of America and Australia as Championship/League One clubs.
You think the club having TikTok as a sponsor and Disney doc is based on good marketing?
I don't think people consider Brighton or Brentford fairytales.
Fairly certain the fans in those cities would say otherwise.You think the club having TikTok as a sponsor and Disney doc is based on good marketing?
I don't think people consider Brighton or Brentford fairytales.
That’s more on the media though?
BBC did it when they last had a cup run (I remember Lineker interviewing Reynolds) and last night TNT producer was always getting a cameraman to show Reynolds and commentator talk about what he was wearing.
That’s modern media, chase clicks and views.
You think the club having TikTok as a sponsor and Disney doc is based on good marketing?
I don't think people consider Brighton or Brentford fairytales.
No - the documentary is successful because it's good viewing. Because it's good viewing, massive numbers watch it so therefore brands want to be connected to it and sponsor the club.
Tik Tok haven't sponsored the club just because Ryan Reynolds is involved have they? Otherwise teams like Swansea would have massive sponsors with Snoop Dogg involved etc.
They do it because they think they will get a ROI like every brand that sponsors a sport team hopes too. Obviously the people involved at Wrexham had a plan to get exposure via the documentary to get revenue into the club in the form of sponsorship and it's worked.
They've then used that revenue to buy players - and it doesn't take much revenue in the NL, League Two and League One. Obviously the Championship is a different ball game, hence why the progress has stalled somewhat.
So people hate them because of a documentary, fans travelling to games and well-known sponsors? Makes sense.
Well yeah without them two - there's no disney documentary.
But I think they soon realised that it's an expensive business to run a football club and figured ways out to make revenue. It's not like it's state sponsored where the sponsorship deals don't make sense and there's a lot of sportswashing and shady business going on.
We literally have the richest guy in the country as our owner and outspend most clubs by virtue of brands giving us more money for advertising them.
I hate to break this to you but some people dislike us too.
I know. I’d like to point out the irony though, in case it hasn’t dawned on anyone.
That is reasonable.
To be fair their spending in the championship isn’t obscene. It was a lot more disproportionate in League 2 and League 1 from what I remember. Lot of rich owners in the championship and as others have said they don’t stand out if not for their fame. Other clubs have done the same if not more, Newcastle were famous for it.
You think the club having TikTok as a sponsor and Disney doc is based on good marketing?
I don't think people consider Brighton or Brentford fairytales.
Agree with you in general in this thread. Wrexham are 100% not a fairy tale despite the narrative. They are not some plucky underdog. They may have come up against other rich owners in the Championship, or at least parachute money, but they had a massive financial advantage in Leagues 1 and 2. They’ll verbally spend their way out of the championship, just going to take a lot more money than they probably expected.
Going forward their squad needs to be sustainable too. The top championship teams have always relied in part on sales of players and Wrexham don’t seem to have those assets. They need people coming through the system either with scouting or the youth team, not high net spend every year and no incoming.
I actually don't like Ryan Reynolds as an actor and he seems a bit fake as a person, but I can give it to him and the other guy: they know how to do a good marketing or at least they have good advisors. They have invested a lot of their time in this, it is not like they went there once. Even the fact that they have persuaded other celebrities to go see a random game, it is very clever business wise.
And tik tok (or whoever) do not sponsor wrexham as a football club and do not aim at the 20k people watching their games. They sponsor Reynolds, so he can do a 30 sec video with a wrexham shirt which will have the sponsors name. This worth millions.
I understand why people are upset about it though. But isn't Nottingham forest the same? Aren't they owned by a Dr. Ug lord? Didn't they also buy their success? Everyone is doing it. Of course there are moral thresholds, ie not accepting cheating as some clubs are doing, but Wrexham is just another football's consumerist product.
And tik tok (or whoever) do not sponsor wrexham as a football club and do not aim at the 20k people watching their games. They sponsor Reynolds, so he can do a 30 sec video with a wrexham shirt which will have the sponsors name. This worth millions.
I understand why people are upset about it though. But isn't Nottingham forest the same? Aren't they owned by a Dr. Ug lord? Didn't they also buy their success? Everyone is doing it. Of course there are moral thresholds, ie not accepting cheating as some clubs are doing, but Wrexham is just another football's consumerist product.
Nauseating from you on this as per usual. You’ve set your stall out, and even wrexham beating a pretty decent PL team who’s wage bill massively gulfs wrexhams isn’t enough for you to give some credit. Whether you like it or not, the wrexham story is an absolute fairytale for every one of their fans. I’m not sure what else owners are supposed to do to achieve success other than spending money, all of which they have generated fairly and within the rules other clubs abide by. They just got ridiculously lucky that it was a Hollywood megastar that decided to take a punt on them.
Lot of bitterness in here, think they are doing a smashing job. Parky has done a brilliant job as well.
Whatever you want to say of the ownership they are clearly on a very upward trajectory as a club and after all the bad owners in football it's good to see what appears to be some good ones.
I'm terms for form their current form has been very good and is on an upward curve after all the stuff that's happened to them over the past 5 years you wouldn't be to amazed if they pull off the completion of promotions to the PL this year.
I'm terms for form their current form has been very good and is on an upward curve after all the stuff that's happened to them over the past 5 years you wouldn't be to amazed if they pull off the completion of promotions to the PL this year.
I'm sure there's far more nuance than I'm accounting for here, but on the face of it, it's pretty humilating for the Class of 92 Salford City owners isn't it?
Unless Reynolds / Rob Mac are by comparison pouring far more money into their club than Class of 92/Lim are putting in Salford.
Unless Reynolds / Rob Mac are by comparison pouring far more money into their club than Class of 92/Lim are putting in Salford.
It's not a fairytale though, they've done exactly the same as City, yet it's a fairytale?
How so?
Is it because it's two white Hollywood stars as owners they don't get the same scorn as City?
How do you convince yourself that a premier league team being bought by a state, is the same as two actors looking for a small club with history to invest in?
The bitterness is genuinely weird.
The bitterness in here because some arent able to accept that there are actually owners out there that know what they are doing
Some people will find misery and negativity in pretty much anything
On the other hand, it's a bit sad that people see comments as bitterness rather than realistic. They've outspent their opponents in most leagues, had money pumped into them across the squad and club and received unprecedented media attention and opportunity at that level due to their celebrity owners. Kudos to them for doing it all and rising up the leagues, while also putting money into the community around Wrexham which is admirable, but it's not really a fairytale in that respect due to it. They have had pretty much every legal advantage going for them in the lower leagues.
If folks want to be bitter, watch the first episode of the Tom Brady Birmingham doc. Now that is a reason to root against a team. The fact that Rob and Ryan feature their women's team, disabled team, and the town itself set them miles ahead of other owners.
Yes, they have a financial advantage but so do many teams with sugar daddy owners. At least they seen to care about the community as a whole.
As far as showing Ryan on the TV too much, you should have seen the TV coverage of Taylor Swift attend Kansas City Chiefs NFL games. Holy hell that was bad.
Yes, they have a financial advantage but so do many teams with sugar daddy owners. At least they seen to care about the community as a whole.
As far as showing Ryan on the TV too much, you should have seen the TV coverage of Taylor Swift attend Kansas City Chiefs NFL games. Holy hell that was bad.
Rasmus hojlund probably cost United 100x what Wrexham spent on James Maclean.
Because they have both spent money far beyond their means to skew the competition.
Thought that would have been obvious... obviously not.
I think it’s maybe because people who are fine with it don’t really comment on the money/contacts… while people who bash them ignore the fact that money BY ITSELF doesn’t gtee anything, as loads of teams have shown. Like most threads, there’s extremes and the truth tends to lie somewhere in between.
I live local so I’m slightly biased because it does bring some money and focus to the area and a few mates are fans, but I don’t ignore that the sponsors specifically are only involved due to Ryan/wife owning them OR Ryan’s contacts/pull OR the Disney publicity (though you could say that’s clever from the sponsors as they know their brand gets more publicity than other clubs’ in same league).
What they have done is manage the process fantastically, spent wisely, used the publicity and ignored heartstrings when it comes to moving players on (even if they were key at some point).
If I was a supporter of a team in the leagues they've risen through I'd be every bit as cynical as those teams' fans maybe justifiably are. But I'm not and I can't help get carried away by the romance of a non-league club that was on its knees financially being bought by sincere owners and having a Lazarus type rise.
I’m cracking up because I read that post and thought the exact same
It's evidently not the same, though. You're leaving out some key "details" to make a really weird point.
Spending money doesn't guarantee success at all, and can even result in disaster.
Is it that bad that they attract sponsorship money because Ryan Reynolds offers them exposure? Clubs attract sponsors because of the prospect that they'll offer them exposure.