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Thought SMS and Bruno were the new Sneidjer and Gaitan. Turns out it's this guy
This. And that is Partey?!Saul is a very good box to box CM but I think we need a proepr holding CM who is a great passer of the ball and can thread it through the lines accurately and consistently.
If you look at the data alone it looks more like Partey is the box to box midfielder and Saul the DM. Quick look over the last few years Saul has consistently had the better defensive stats. Saul from the looks of it also attempts a lot more passes than Partey which could explain the discrepancy in the passing percentages.This. And that is Partey?!
Maybe Saul would be a more natural replacement for Pogba? Very different and not as talented (who is?!). But it is a bit weird with AM-players as their system is so different from any other team at that level.
Having better defensive stats doesn’t mean you’re playing a sitting DM role. In fact it’s more often the highest defensive stats are obtained by box to box players who are free to fly around into challenges all over the pitch.If you look at the data alone it looks more like Partey is the box to box midfielder and Saul the DM. Quick look over the last few years Saul has consistently had the better defensive stats. Saul from the looks of it also attempts a lot more passes than Partey which could explain the discrepancy in the passing percentages.
I’d prefer Saul, just think he is a better player and would suit what we want/ need more. He for me also has that thing Bruno has which is workrate, fight and leadership.
Depends on what data. It is only natural that an aggressive box-to-box player makes more interceptions and tackles than a more laid-back, balancing DM.If you look at the data alone it looks more like Partey is the box to box midfielder and Saul the DM. Quick look over the last few years Saul has consistently had the better defensive stats. Saul from the looks of it also attempts a lot more passes than Partey which could explain the discrepancy in the passing percentages.
From what I've seen he's nowhere near as creative as Pogba, or as good a dribbler. He's like a better version of Herrera. If Pogba leaves we'll need a creative midfielder and Saul is not the most creative midfielder out there. IMO he's the perfect link between DM and AM, able to contribute in both attack and defense while being not fantastic at eitherIt's pretty much an impossible signing if you ask me as I see this guy very loyal to Atl Madrid. It's like asking De Rossi to leave AS Roma. However, if the news that Atl Madrid is in financial crisis then may be it is not impossible.
To me this is the transfer that depends on Pogba leaving not Grealish. This guy suits as Pogba's replacement. Playing in 6, 8 & 10. He even played wide midfielder & cover the centre back before. Grealish on the other hand is a 10, winger or CAM.
Well, we added a creative midfielder in january. And we will probably add a creative RW to the squad this summer regardless of Pogba.From what I've seen he's nowhere near as creative as Pogba, or as good a dribbler. He's like a better version of Herrera. If Pogba leaves we'll need a creative midfielder and Saul is not the most creative midfielder out there. IMO he's the perfect link between DM and AM, able to contribute in both attack and defense while being not fantastic at either
IMO we would still need another creative CM even if he's just backup. Pogba money for Saul + Grealish would be fantastic but just depending on Bruno could cost us especially if we are looking to compete for all major trophies. A Bruno - Saul - Zakaria midfield with Grealish, McSauce and Fred as backup would be one of the best midfields in leagueWell, we added a creative midfielder in january. And we will probably add a creative RW to the squad this summer regardless of Pogba.
This is never going to happen. We will be spending heavily on Sancho and no way we are going to buy these three along with him. We have already purchased Bruno last winter window.IMO we would still need another creative CM even if he's just backup. Pogba money for Saul + Grealish would be fantastic but just depending on Bruno could cost us especially if we are looking to compete for all major trophies. A Bruno - Saul - Zakaria midfield with Grealish, McSauce and Fred as backup would be one of the best midfields in league
Don't think so personally. The most difficult deal out of the three is Saul. If rumours are to be believed, we are already negotiating for Grealish and there's also some reports linking is with Zakaria.This is never going to happen. We will be spending heavily on Sancho and no way we are going to buy these three along with him. We have already purchased Bruno last winter window.
With Pogba:
Bruno Pogba Fred Partey/Zakaria
Without Pogba:
Bruno Saul/Zakaria Fred Grealish. Even getting Grealish and Saul/Zakaria will be a tough one to do in a single window.
I think that Liverpool have shown that you can succeed without a specialist DM if you pack a midfield with runners and have fullbacks who can operate as runners too. I think Ole has a vision where he wants to be a hybrid between a Klopp and SAF team from what I watch of you anyway.Saul is a brilliant player but would only make sense as a signing if he's a direct Pogba replacement.
He's a box-to-box CM with particular strengths as a distributor from deep and also for driving runs right into the box, both things which are also key Pogba qualities. Buy him and keep Pogba and we end up with too many box-to-box CMs (Pogba, Fred, McTominay and Saul) and still no specialist DM apart from Matic.
He's creative enough to me and unlike Herrera, he likes to play risky passes and to back it up, you can tell from his passing completion as well.From what I've seen he's nowhere near as creative as Pogba, or as good a dribbler. He's like a better version of Herrera. If Pogba leaves we'll need a creative midfielder and Saul is not the most creative midfielder out there. IMO he's the perfect link between DM and AM, able to contribute in both attack and defense while being not fantastic at either
Exactly this. Saul is the upgrade on Herrera. Everything Herrera is, just much better. Definitely not a Pogba. DM, Saul and Bruno is quite a very good and balanced midfield. If Pogba is leaving, his money buying Zakaria/Partey and Saul would be a perfect reinvestment IMO.From what I've seen he's nowhere near as creative as Pogba, or as good a dribbler. He's like a better version of Herrera. If Pogba leaves we'll need a creative midfielder and Saul is not the most creative midfielder out there. IMO he's the perfect link between DM and AM, able to contribute in both attack and defense while being not fantastic at either
Ah. Just saw this. Amen brother. That'll get us competing properly. Locally and in Europe. We've had such a poor midfield for years really. Crying shame...IMO we would still need another creative CM even if he's just backup. Pogba money for Saul + Grealish would be fantastic but just depending on Bruno could cost us especially if we are looking to compete for all major trophies. A Bruno - Saul - Zakaria midfield with Grealish, McSauce and Fred as backup would be one of the best midfields in league
Have you seen his goal against Bayern? The boy can dribble.From what I've seen he's nowhere near as creative as Pogba, or as good a dribbler. He's like a better version of Herrera. If Pogba leaves we'll need a creative midfielder and Saul is not the most creative midfielder out there. IMO he's the perfect link between DM and AM, able to contribute in both attack and defense while being not fantastic at either
Its a really high number as far as I'm concerned.Would be a quality signing but just don't see them selling for anything as low as £75m
And then they're 4th-6th in the leagueEvery year we're told Atletico have financial problems and might sell Saul and Partey. Then when summer comes Atletico spend vast fortunes on players like Felix and Thomas Lemar, and Saul and Partey go nowhere unless Atletico have a youngster coming through who is even better than someone in the first team.
Well I think if they can find buyers for Diego Costa and Lemar then they might not need to sell any key players.And then they're 4th-6th in the league
Sorry I guess I should have expanded, my point was more that suggesting they have multiple players who are worth like £75 million+ while they're 5th or 6th in the league doesnt make any sense.Well I think if they can find buyers for Diego Costa and Lemar then they might not need to sell any key players.
Both Partey and Saul strike me more as all round CM's, plenty of graft and energy and good all round games witho9ut being truly outstanding in any singular department. I feel with Fred and McTominay we have two all action box to box CM's with decent all round skillsets and great engines, I'd like to see us get a Carrick type of DLP.This. And that is Partey?!
Maybe Saul would be a more natural replacement for Pogba? Very different and not as talented (who is?!). But it is a bit weird with AM-players as their system is so different from any other team at that level.
Marota is their strikerWith a midfield like Saul,Partey, Llorante and Koke, Why A-Madrid are not doing well in LaLiga (45 points from 27 games)?
Yeah I do get the impression that he is very loyal to his club similar to Verratti at PSGIt's pretty much an impossible signing if you ask me as I see this guy very loyal to Atl Madrid. It's like asking De Rossi to leave AS Roma. However, if the news that Atl Madrid is in financial crisis then may be it is not impossible.
To me this is the transfer that depends on Pogba leaving not Grealish. This guy suits as Pogba's replacement. Playing in 6, 8 & 10. He even played wide midfielder & cover the centre back before. Grealish on the other hand is a 10, winger or CAM.
Verratti is a prisoner in Paris who would would have left us his club were the type that allow their good players to leave.Yeah I do get the impression that he is very loyal to his club similar to Verratti at PSG
If there is no Pogba then this makes sense.Just a thought
Do we really need a specialised "DM"? If for instance we had two pivots behind Bruno, who have really impressive defensive stats but you wouldnt class them as DM's.
Brunos possesion recycling is brilliant, has anybody seen Mctominays defensive stats? I know they were pretty impressive. I really dont think we d need a specialist DM such as Partey if we had the following, as somebody pointed out Sauls defensive stats are actually better than Parteys
Ive purposely left Pogba out the equation, but even adding Pogba in there for any of the three i still think you d have the defensive quality amongst them to function very effectivley
...............Bruno
........Saul.....Mctominay
I’m confused, when did Atletico last finish 6th? And from what I read on here, we’d love to finsh 4th... so perhaps bringing Saul is a masterstroke in that regardAnd then they're 4th-6th in the league
I'm talking about current form. They are 6th.I’m confused, when did Atletico last finish 6th? And from what I read on here, we’d love to finsh 4th... so perhaps bringing Saul is a masterstroke in that regard