[pascell]

My friend who supports PNE is claiming we're not letting them extend Sam's loan past the 28 days. Apparently we want £3m for him, we've given him a number in our Europa League squad but haven't given Valdes one. Also, we're not letting Valdes go on loan to Newcastle he reckons.

 

[prateik]

So Johnstone is for sale?

 

[pascell]

So Johnstone is for sale?

If clubs want him that's the fee they'd have to pay.

 

[711]

Allegedly.

 

[Red Dreams]

what I have seen of him I like very much.

If DDG leaves, I would love for this lad to be our #1.

 

[Mark Pawelek]

This is the only Sam Johnstone discussion thread I found. No discussion in it for a year. He's 3rd choice here and, so, not likely to get matches. Should he stay or should he go? If he goes, should it loan or permanent? I remind you all that a club can loan a goalie with a recall clause. So, from a manager's point of view, having him away on loan is as useful as him being here.

 

[Stobzilla]

He should be second choice IMO, he is good enough to be back up and would quite nicely fill one of the home grown spaces in the squad.

 

[Nicklas]

He looked better than expected last year at the tour, made just one mistake IRC? Wouldn't mind him being back up to De Gea if Romero left.

 

[Mark Pawelek]

He should be second choice IMO, he is good enough to be back up and would quite nicely fill one of the home grown spaces in the squad.

What I think, based on Sam's goalkeeping. Yet Romero is only on £50k/w, which isn't a lot for this club, and has international experience and all that. It's the classic dilemma: experience vs. talent.

 

[Stobzilla]

What I think, based on Sam's goalkeeping. Yet Romero is only on £50k/w, which isn't a lot for this club, and has international experience and all that. It's the classic dilemma: experience vs. talent.

Talent and HG status, the latter we don't have many of atm.

 

[Sb_16]

He has a year left on his contract. We'll sell unless he extends. Its his decision. If he sees himself as a starter then good luck at your next club, if he's happy to be a backup then extend the contract, send him on 1-2 full season(s) loan and make him second choice from following season.

 

[Mark Pawelek]

After the England shambles, Sam must rate himself a better goalie than Joe Hart. He must also fancy his chances as a starter for any Championship side. He just needs to pick the right promotion chasing side to eventually get a PL starter position, and the England shirt. That's my career advice to him. He needs to be at least 2nd choice at this stage of his career.

 

[RooneyLegend]

Should be second choice and start league cup and Europa league matches.

 

[ti vu]

Should be second choice and start league cup and Europa cup matches.

Please no with the Europa part. We should aim to win the thing, not trying our luck with the U21. This mentality was what gave Arsenal and us the trouble both clubs are experiencing. We need to give our best shot to win everything our way. Any trophies is better than winning nothing. Europa league = CL entry too, so why not aim for it.

 

[RooneyLegend]

Please no with the Europa part. We should aim to win the thing, not trying our luck with the U21. This mentality was what gave Arsenal and us the trouble both clubs are experiencing.

Its below us, how did that mentality give us and arsenal the trouble we're experiencing?

 

[ti vu]

Its below us, how did that mentality give us and arsenal the trouble we're experiencing?

We never won Europa League. Why is it below us? When Europa League winner went to CL and we couldn't qualify for CL 2 in last 3 seasons?

 

[RooneyLegend]

We never won Europa League. Why is it below us? When Europa League winner went to CL and we couldn't qualify for CL 2 in last 3 seasons?

We're Man United, back door entries into the champions league isn't our thing. The past 3 seasons have been an anomaly, we should never treat it like the norm. We need to get back to our standards, trying to win second rate competitions is just going to be a distraction.

 

[m1y2]

no doubt he has potential to be a premier league goalie, just needs to play consistently... as a number two. I am not so sure if he got the gametime he needs, if he's number three, he should leave for a championship side, then it will be goodbye.. but it's just insanely hard to get a shot in a club like ours as a goalkeeper, no shame in not making it here. But he's an interesting goalkeeper so it will be a shame..

 

[ti vu]

We're Man United, back door entries into the champions league isn't our thing. The past 3 seasons have been an anomaly, we should never treat it like the norm. We need to get back to our standards, trying to win second rate competitions is just going to be a distraction.

Mourinho won a fair amount of second rate cups in his previous teams. He played strong team too. If getting into top 4 is that hard and prevents you to win second rate trophies, then that's exactly Wenger's syndrome.

True winner = win anything in sight. You can't be called a winner by winning top 4 spot. Sevilla is more successful than Arsenal the past 3 years and have CL to boot.

If anything getting into CL, by being not a champion sounds more second rate than winning Europa league.

 

[Stactix]

We're Man United, back door entries into the champions league isn't our thing. The past 3 seasons have been an anomaly, we should never treat it like the norm. We need to get back to our standards, trying to win second rate competitions is just going to be a distraction.

Rather win the Europa League and finish 5th, than not & finish 2-4th.

 

[RooneyLegend]

Mourinho won a fair amount of second rate cups in his previous teams. He played strong team too. If getting into top 4 is that hard and prevents you to win second rate trophies, then that's exactly Wenger's syndrome.

True winner = win anything in sight. You can't be called a winner by winning top 4 spot. Sevilla is more successful than Arsenal the past 3 years and have CL to boot.

If anything getting into CL, by being not a champion sounds more second rate than winning Europa league.

Who cares about the top 4 spot? Our aim this season should be the league and the Fa cup. Winning Europa means that you're the best of the rest in Europe, we intend on winning the CL sometime soon. Winning this isn't going to help us with anything. Which second rate trophies does Jose play his strongest teams in?

Wenger's problems have nothing to do with not playing his strongest teams in certain competitions, he's just found it impossible to put together a squad as good as those he had in the past when he was actually winning. Sir Alex, the ultimate winner regularly played weakened sides in cups he saw less important that what we should be aiming for. Winning Europa does nothing for us, we're not sevilla or any of those second rate clubs. I reiterate, we're man united. If we win Europa, win the damn thing with Johnstone in goal!

 

[ti vu]

Who cares about the top 4 spot? Our aim this season should be the league and the Fa cup. Winning Europa means that you're the best of the rest in Europe, we intend on winning the CL sometime soon. Winning this isn't going to help us with anything. Which second rate trophies does Jose play his strongest teams in?

Wenger's problems have nothing to do with not playing his strongest teams in certain competitions, he's just found it impossible to put together a squad as good as those he had in the past when he was actually winning. Sir Alex, the ultimate winner regularly played weakened sides in cups he saw less important that what we should be aiming for. Winning Europa does nothing for us, we're not sevilla or any of those second rate clubs. I reiterate, we're man united. If we win Europa, win the damn thing with Johnstone in goal!

Copa Del Rey, Copa Italia, League Cup, FA Cup, UEFA CUp with Porto.

You seem to have this weird superior attitude. SAF turned to short term planning in his late year, and aimed to win the league and notice the squad is weak for all the competition. Learn from Wenger the ultimate recipe of disaster of playing U21 in league cup, FA Cup, Europa Cup. The result? We haven't won FA Cup for over a decade. Inconsistent in League Cup. Have some embarrassing exit in league Cup, FA Cup, Europa League, even CL in some of those transition years.

It is understandable that SAF's priority is knocking L'pool of the perk in the league. However, SAF had had some blame toward him for the way we ran in his last few years by not trying to spend enough money to strengthen the squad to compete for all competitions when the market is still cheap. Now this market is crazy and we still need to spend a fortune to strengthen the squad. It's the problem on SAF's part. not master class if you're asking me. Please no. Sam Johnstone as much as I like him to be a integral part of the team is not proven, even as PL level yet, let alone throwing him out there to win anything.

"If you're good enough, you're old enough" not the other way around. He needs to win his spot. Nothing should be handed on his plate or United become a big club by trying avoid second rate trophy. Big clubs aim to win everything in sight. Superior mentality is different to Winner mentality. British football usually has the former mentality and the result shows.