Brazil is wild - has anyone seen that movie City of God?
Sao Paulo Midfielder Daniel Correa murdered and mutilated in Brazil.
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They couldn't .. Brazil had a growing economy, but it's still nowhere near as rich as the U.K, which remains one of the worlds largest and most developed economies.
Even if they could have an overall larger budget, like you say they'd need far more policemen (due to the size/population of the country) and they have far deeper issues with crime which would be much more complicated to tackle than just having a large police force.
Out of curiosity, from Central America based in your experience, which country do you think is in the worst situation?The UK has a significantly higher GDP than Brazil as well, whilst being much smaller and easier to police.
Haven't seen those red pamphlets of yours while travelling 51 countries around the 'whole' world during the last 11 years, oh mighty fascist know-it-all.
I don't often say this - in fact, don't think I ever have - but some of the comments here are totally inconsiderate or even childish. Christ, a man was killed brutally.
Just read a news update and that seems to be the case...
Guys, cut out the Mini Hitler, mini Stalin nonsense. Stay civil please.
Yep, great movie and will likely be regarded as a classic in the future. (it's not that old of a movie yet, still from this century)
Christ, they don't mess around over there.
is Mini Trotsky ok to use ? Asking for a friend.
I for one apologize for that, but it's hard to not let off the steam sometimes.
It's not enough to be called fascist, sexist, racist, homophobic in the usual places, it's frustrating having to cope with that kind of bullshit in the forum of my football team.
Hey there. The crime phenomenon in Brazil is very complex and there are a whole lot of causes, poverty is only one factor and it's far from explaining it all.
Increasing the power of police isn't going to solve it all but it's needed, as is fighting against police corruption.
The whole jail system needs reestructuration as well. Jails here are known for being "crime universities" and the people inside actually issue orders to those outside.
Anyway, this is a discussion that is long reaching and better suited for a different thread... What I have to say for now is that the future President and Congress are likely to go for a Rudolph Giuliani approach. That's what the majority of the population wants and we expect good results from it.
It's a tough one. Rule out Nicaragua since they are going through a particularly rough patch.
El Salvador is probably the worst overall, although I feel pretty safe in the capital, you regularly hear about people's heads being left next to their doorway, dismembered bodies in suitcases and whatnot. They don't give two shits about human life really.
Honduras I've had to jump off street cabs twice and up north it's absolute wilderness, but it's more outright conventional violence than the sort of savagery above.
Guatemala appears to be the least inhuman, but as far as muggings are concerned nowhere is safe. I once had a cab leaving me two blocks away from my destination in the city centre and it was like vultures circling you in no time looking for the window of opportunity. Spent the entire two blocks locking eyes with various people... you know... "I know you are there, don't try anything stupid" kind of bluff while bricking it for all the stuff in my laptop all along.
I've been in the City of God, with an AK47 pointing at me while trying to talk a drug baron into not shooting our medical staff regardless of who they were fixing up. It was their job.
The film is absolutely spot on, with stable leadership they got on with their drugs business and it was all relatively peaceful if people mind their own business. The crisis point was always when a leader was removed. That's part of the issue with better policing, every time they jailed the head of a favela you would go "oh feck, here we go again".
Anybody who frequents r/watchpeopledie will not be surprised at all by this
I empathise and had a similar exchange to the ones you are having here in the elections thread in the general (with less name calling).
It's a slippery slope though, when those charged with law & order start acting with impunity (and they usually do) that's the end of law & order and you have nowhere to run / resort to.
The sight of the army parading with people out in the streets celebrating as if they were the NT after winning the World Cup is very worrying. You have polarised waaaaay too much and it's bound to get out of hand.
On a separate note, in the Peruvian Major elections in some god forgotten place the two candidates were called Hitler and Lenin respectively. The Hitler billboards said "Vote Hitler - I'm the good Hitler"
No shit, I'm serious.
No shit, I'm serious.
Was he a good player?
fecking hell. I mean the fact the ref brought a knife with him to a game is mental enough. The story reads as if he had it on him during the game too?!
Hitler? Aggressive right winger
Is Brazil more dangerous or Russia? I've been to the two World Cups in both Brazil and Russia, and not once did I feel I was in danger even when I was out walking alone in the street at night. The locals in Brazil were extremely kind, friendly and happy-go-lucky, it's so surprising to hear how dangerous Brazil is when Brazilians are always stereotyped with the whole samba, despacito culture where people are known to be easy-going, happy-go-lucky and friendly.
Yes - excellent and moving film
One of the actors from that movie went on to become the crime lord of a favela
You lie - really?!?One of the actors from that movie went on to become the crime lord of a favela
Its such a good movie - I think there's a sequel. Do you know if it's any good? x
Awe wow that sounds scary
- was it your first time in brazil?I was working there for three years.Awe wow that sounds scary
So what will happen to this case? It will be buried and long forgotten? No justice for his life? So many questions lingering.
I guess you have that knowledge, you may hang around in there for a bit?
Maybe because Football truly unites the whole nation in Brazil. During that time maybe the killing stopped or slowed down, because it's party time for the whole nation.
damn that's brutal. RIP Daniel Correa
The crime/violence problem in Brazil and the rest of Latin America is pretty similar and unfortunately, very hard to fix.
Decades of poverty and massive inequality (the gap between rich and poor in Brazil and Mexico is immense) combined with incredible levels of corruption, substandard policing, an onerous and defective legal bureaucracy have left some of the most violent and unequal societies on earth.
I have family in Mexico City and visit it often, and have never felt more unsafe than I would in another major metropolitan area in lets say the US. But one knows that just an hours travel in any direction and the situation could be completely different. There's just a complete different level of policing in some places compared to others. I suppose it's the same in Brazil.
Decades of poverty and massive inequality (the gap between rich and poor in Brazil and Mexico is immense) combined with incredible levels of corruption, substandard policing, an onerous and defective legal bureaucracy have left some of the most violent and unequal societies on earth.
I have family in Mexico City and visit it often, and have never felt more unsafe than I would in another major metropolitan area in lets say the US. But one knows that just an hours travel in any direction and the situation could be completely different. There's just a complete different level of policing in some places compared to others. I suppose it's the same in Brazil.
So, apparently the main culprit's defence is that the victim(player) tried to rape his daughter and he reacted to protect her and lost control of himself
Brazil is a country I’ve always wanted to visit but shit like this makes you reconsider. I’m guessing there are safe parts though ?
Brazil is a very nice place to go specially for the human value and how easy it is to make friends.
Nice to read your comment, since the other comments make it seem like you will get decapitated or a jaguar will eat you once you leave the airport.
Do go. The homicide rates are high, but like in a lot of countries they happen in the outskirts where tourists don't come close to setting foot, and are gang related.
If you stay in Rio for example, in the zone where most people stay, the crime rates are similar to any large city. You can get mugged, but its not like its super wild out there.
Nigeria must be a paradise compared to Brazil then.