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The tube yesterday was a nightmare, thank god I'm not in today.
that's what the civil service have started to do. problem is even at 9am yesterday with reduced services and train delays, some carriages were packed.surely have a full tube service at rush hour and ask employers to stagger start times. 9-5 isn't written in stone
They can increase services assuming there are enough staff available and fit to work. You would like it to think it wouldn't, but there is a danger it could encourage people who don't need to travel to start getting on the tube.Look at the state of that Underground! It's from this morning right? London is fecked if so.
What can they realistically do to prevent that though? They literally need to close all non-essential businesses (I don't actually know if they've done this already).
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Government should be paying cabbies in London, most of whom are sitting at home waiting to go bankrupt, to ferry the NHS workers to work and home. They have a divider so are safer than normal cars, and it gets them off the tube.
How do you stay on top of the news like that?looks like those clowns on cnn did it again. what a bunch of clowns.
Damn.So this is my facebook this morning:
This was her facebook 4 days ago
And this was her boyfriend the day before that
Times like this I want to point out what she did 4 days ago, but it's just not worth the hassle
Sorry but that’s a ridiculous suggestion. There is zero infection control methods with cabs and an extreme high risk of passing the virus on.Government should be paying cabbies in London, most of whom are sitting at home waiting to go bankrupt, to ferry the NHS workers to work and home. They have a divider so are safer than normal cars, and it gets them off the tube.
As is the attitude of 'well its up to the government to tell me what to do'. No it's fecking not. Use your common sense and stop going out. Until that realisation comes from the general population the virus won't get under control, the police can't possibly keep everybody at home all of the time.This attitude is so fecking ubiquitous in the West. The choices we make are our own. Yes they are but your choices have consequences you utter twats. Not everything is about you and your life. Have some thought for those around you for once in your life.
Sorry but that’s a ridiculous suggestion. There is zero infection control methods with cabs and an extreme high risk of passing the virus on.
The answer is to address with more capacity on the tube to encourage distancing or to push all non-key workers to stay at home.
I'm not following.Sorry but that’s a ridiculous suggestion. There is zero infection control methods with cabs and an extreme high risk of passing the virus on.
The answer is to address with more capacity on the tube to encourage distancing or to push all non-key workers to stay at home.
It isn’t, the tube will have deep cleaning at least once or twice per day. The cab isn’t going to get a deep clean at all. It’s a really bad idea and we should focus efforts on getting more capacity or supporting the self employed so they dont feel as though they have to come to work.It's got to be better than them using the tube.
This seems sensible doesn’t it? More trains more distance between everyone.They should just run more trains and spread the people out in London, the extra cost is tiny.
A wipe down isn’t sufficient, public transportation needs physical deep clean. Driver will come into contact with it, and then go to his family and friends. It’s a really bad idea, muted heavily by health officials yesterday when the question was posed on a lot of the news channels.I'm not following.
In a Cab there is two people, one driver, one NHS worker.
The cab can be wiped down between pickups.
On the tube, there are an unknown number of contacts and no method of maintaining cleanliness.
I can't see any situation where the former is worse than the latter.
Yep - easiest solution.They should just run more trains and spread the people out in London, the extra cost is tiny.
Yep - easiest solution.
It’s happening currently, not to that level of degree but deep cleans are happening. Which is more that is happening with any London taxi.But that's nonsense. The tube would need to be cleaned everytime a new person got in or out.
Colour me sceptical, but I severely doubt the average cabbie is performing a full disinfection of the cabin between customer visits. He could. But who does that?I'm not following.
In a Cab there is two people, one driver, one NHS worker.
The cab can be wiped down between pickups.
On the tube, there are an unknown number of contacts and no method of maintaining cleanliness.
I can't see any situation where the former is worse than the latter.
There's nothing wrong with the Underground capacity. They should be reducing it if anything. 2 million people use the tube every day and there are a little over 100,000 NHS clinical staff in London. The problem is all the random office jobs thinking they're essential because the country will collapse if they can't provide their executive recruitment services or whatever pointless thing it is they do.Sorry but that’s a ridiculous suggestion. There is zero infection control methods with cabs and an extreme high risk of passing the virus on.
The answer is to address with more capacity on the tube to encourage distancing or to push all non-key workers to stay at home.
The national address was at 8.35pm so I don't see the issue here.If anyone is still wondering why people are confused.
Look at this tweet. The image on the left was the official government tweet before 10pm last night.
The one on the right is after 10pm.
Do not defend this.
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1.9m random office jobs is the problem. I’m guessing it’s just essential workers, and those who haven’t been told to stay at home (self employed or otherwise). If they kept the same capacity that they had pre-mini shut down then i don’t think we would have the bunching experience that we’re seeing over the past two days.There's nothing wrong with the Underground capacity. They should be reducing it if anything. 2 million people use the tube every day and there are a little over 100,000 NHS clinical staff in London. The problem is all the random office jobs thinking they're essential because the country will collapse if they can't provide their executive recruitment services or whatever pointless thing it is they do.
But those, except the 2 people, were mentioned on Friday. Most things closed on the weekend, maybe it's where I am but I saw no store not under the essential shops open. Either he did say it and people listened and he just repeated, or these places did it themselves and he is just saying it to confirm. Either way, almost nothing is new in what he said in my opinion.... again except the 2 people thing.Because the police now have the power to fine people and disperse gatherings of more than 2 people. Also the shutting down of all shops except food and medical. The order for the closing of places of worship and libraries. There's a lot different.
I’ll PM you a photo of itCan anyone in the UK describe to me the message they got if they are one of the high-risk people advised to completely isolate for 12 weeks?
My mum got two phone calls this morning and then a text on her mobile from the NHS. It didn't give any specific instructions so we're not sure if she is at-risk or not. Was there just a general mass text sent out today?
It's unhealthy in that endurance athletes have an increased risk of upper respiratory tract infections. That's not "nothing whatsoever."Agree with your second paragraph here of course but there’s nothing “unhealthy” about a well trained individual running a marathon, nothing whatsoever.
Depending on the effort it can also lead to temporary Immuno suppression.It's unhealthy in that endurance athletes have an increased risk of upper respiratory tract infections. That's not "nothing whatsoever."
I got what I think was a mass text message. I've no particular risk factors, not on medication, under treatment for anything.My mum got two phone calls this morning and then a text on her mobile from the NHS. It didn't give any specific instructions so we're not sure if she is at-risk or not. Was there just a general mass text sent out today?
I got what I think was a mass text message. I've no particular risk factors, not on medication, under treatment for anything.
It reads:
GOV.UK CORONAVIRUS ALERT New rules in force now: you must stay at home. More info & exemptions at gov.uk/coronavirus
Stay at home. Protect the NHS. Save lives.
I assume the "you're at risk" text tells you to expect a letter or has a different link - but I don't know. I wouldn't be surprised if I get another text later clarifying whether or not this is the heavy duty version.
Meanwhile in assuming it isn't, because I'm going to be doing the shopping for some family members who are in home isolation.
This is the one for those at risk:Can anyone in the UK describe to me the message they got if they are one of the high-risk people advised to completely isolate for 12 weeks?
My mum got two phone calls this morning and then a text on her mobile from the NHS. It didn't give any specific instructions so we're not sure if she is at-risk or not. Was there just a general mass text sent out today?
No. First time I've seen anything like this.Yeah that was it. Just keep me posted please. Are the NHS in the habit of doing mass texts? It's kind of a thing in the US. We get Amber Alerts when a child has been abducted or when extreme weather is coming.
This is the one for those at risk: