And that just comes across as a load of whiney bollox. Some of the “smart people” who seem to wind you up are putting their lives at risk, every day, going in to work in hospitals riddled with the virus. Dealing with bereaved relatives, finding out about colleagues who have been killed. So I think it’s fair to say they have a pretty good idea what’s going on. Even though you obviously think you know best.
And that’s without even getting into the hundreds of taxi drivers, bus drivers, cleaners, supermarket workers and security guards who have been killed by this virus in the last few weeks while you’ve been making up false facts about how a recession will kill more people and lockdown needs to stop immediately. I think it’s fair to say their bereaved families would also have different opinion to you on how this crisis should be handled.
I am around people who are out there "putting their lives at risk" nearly every day so I probably wouldn't go down that route. It's exactly what has fuled my distain for a lot of the ignorant bollocks in this thread. If I'm not on site with builders, I've been helping at the local food bank, I've been helping our social care team. I've been getting food to my parents. I've delivered pescriptions to people who can't go out. I've been out helping to collect rubbish (although I did have a moan about having to do that). I'm out literally every day. I've not heard a single one of these people you mention who are "out there" come up with any of the bollocks being spouted by all you pretend experts in this thread.
Most are just getting on with it and are struggling, tired and frsutrated. They are helping to keep the country going, and helping people get by, on their own, while other people sit at home typing opinions on the internet about how it's unfair to open a school or to be expected to go to work, but who offer absolutely no form of help or solution, and then flock in their droves to go and queue for a toilet at a beach. I'm quite bored with it Pogue. Even the actual scientific guidance, from experts, is constantly laced with terms like "we can't be certain about anything"...so I'm afraid you are all talking utter shite when you start preaching about what the right or wrong thing to do is. You can analyse what's already happened, but if we're being honest, none of you know or have a clue what the right or wrong thing to do is going forwards, and neither do I.
I can tell you what I have seen. I have seen that the demand at the food bank is, for the first time since I've helped there, outstripping the supply. This means that there are people, families, who aren't getting food, to eat. I've seen one woman break down in tears because she can't feed her children.
I've spoken to countless people who simply can't cope at the moment and are really desperate to get some form of support, which for example would come in the form of being able to send their child into a school. They are well aware of the potential risks involved and are quite scared in many cases, but their situation means those risks are no longer the biggest threat to them.
Every time I go into my work I see people sat outside who have been left with nowhere to go. Usually they would get help being relocated and in all circumstances would be given the option of a roof over their head. Now there is NO ONE there to help them. Because it is not safe for someone to help them. Someone somewhere has come to the conclusion that leaving people without a shelter to go to is less dangerous than sending a perfectly healthy person into a building to help them...even though I can come into work, in the exact same building, to do something much less important.
The reason these kind of conclusions are being reached and some of these things are happening is, in part, due to the amount of pretend experts spouting shite and refusing to see the wider picture. So it would actually be nice if people could cut it out and stop being so astonishingly ignorant at least for a while. Worse are the morons still trying to tow political agendas and twist what's going on to suit. I mean fecking hell grow up.
I don't see it that everyone out there is "putting their life on the line" and I think that is part of the ignorance in itself. There are doctors and care workers out there who are or have been putting themselves at risk. For everything else, people are quite able in line with the guidance to assess the risk on an individual level. The risk of corona virus to me for example is far too tiny to justify not doing anything to help. Where as I wouldn't expect a colleague twice my age to be asked to do anything. I wouldn't expect someone my age who lives or comes into contact with an elderly relative to do anything...but there are plenty out there who can and in reality help is desperately needed at this point.
I can safely presume you aren't aware of most of this Pogue, because if you were your attitude in this thread would be very different. If you were then on the couple of occasions I've mentioned some of these things to you before, you wouldn't just have completely dismissed/ignored it as if it's insignificant.
Everything you say is based on some numbers on a screen. Numbers which represent a tiny portion of the big picture, which give a very incomplete perspective, which in a lot of cases come with the asterix of probably not being fully accurate, and which also despite this, mainly only serve to prove that no one knows what they are on about since they don't fit with any of the arguments people were making 2 months ago, or even 2 weeks ago.
Whining about advice helps no one. You might not agree with it, but at least a teacher going into a school, or willing to engage in helping to create a safer environment within the school, or someone helping widen a cycle path in London, is doing something to try and help the situation. The weekly clapping thing will die out soon I suspect and the reason it will is because at this point it's an empty gesture, because this is now everyone's problem to solve, and it isn't solved by just sitting there disagreeing with things.