Yeah good for you.Denmark has lifted restrictions to Norway, Germany and Iceland. Norway has lifted restrictions to Denmark. Love how both countries have given the middle finger to Sweden.
Isn’t that how Outbreak started? Call Dustin Hoffman!
I have to remember that excuse for the next time I lose something.
In the full text he is saying that very few of the new Covid cases being found are turning serious.
That's some great news. It also chimes with the theory that over time the less aggressive mutations are more likely to spread than the more aggressive ones. Let's hope this pattern continues.
Would be fantastic if the virus really has weakened this quickly. Seems a bit unlikely though. Do you think what’s happening might be down to the average patient being younger than they were when the epidemic first hit?
That is brilliant news. Glad they are getting on top of it.9 deaths in Spain today and 187 new cases. 39 deaths in the last week. includes islands and enclaves.
Furloughing the science
If you are norwegian you will be able to travel back home. If you are Swedish, you might consider finding a "summer job" as work travels opens 01.june and does not require quarantine neither.
Thanks man.
I get all that but you do need a degree of common sense to deal with situations like this. Your example is exactly what I mean by dealing with these things on a more individual level. You find a solution that works for the people in your and their particular circumstance. Not one that works for any circumstance because that simply isn't possible.
Yeah it's probably an unfair way to describe it. The Cummings incident was probably a catalyst for a lot of people. Hoenstly though I don't know why it's taken this long. We already knew enough to know him and Boris hadn't taken the situation seriously and also clearly aren't smart enough to be the kind of people you want in charge of dealing with it.
You need new internets?
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Thanks for correction and accurate numbers. I copied from a Facebook post off someone I trust. I should check next time!
Yet, despite Swedes being dirty and infected, Sweden's full of Danes right nowDenmark has lifted restrictions to Norway, Germany and Iceland. Norway has lifted restrictions to Denmark. Love how both countries have given the middle finger to Sweden.
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Probably a combination of a number of factors. The average time it takes to die is also getting longer, from 6 days I think it was at the start to 11 currently. Older people are definitely hidden away more now and some of the most vulnerable have already died.
Given that SARS-CoV-2 spreads very well without killing the majority and even when fatal it takes more than long enough to kill to infect many people before the host dies, I doubt there is much selection pressure making the virus less fatal. There will be genetic change due to the way RNA virises reproduce, in which case the versions of the virus that kill the host less often will become slightly more prevalent, as long as the Ro doesn't change, but that will be a slow process most likely. You tend to see more rapid changes after widespread vaccination but then it is the strains/genetic versions of the virus that are least well targeted by the vaccine that will proliferate, which may or may not be less harmful and/or contagious.
I think this is spot on. The viruses don’t become miraculously less harmful. At times it happens, but there are reasons for that (for example if a virus has one strain that kills you fast, and another that just sickens you a bit, the second one will eventually dominate and so the virus has become less harmful). Covid seems to be extremely efficient at infecting people, to the point that many don’t even know that they are infected and some others know it after a week. For it to spread fast, it does not need to become less harmful.
I remember earlier on seeing some speculation that there were variations in strains of Covid-19 that could be accounting for differences in death toll and things like that... is it known now that there are multiple strains?
I think there have been two strains since the beginning, not sure on mortality differences though. Remember that there was some talk going on that Asia, Germany and West Coast had the milder strain compared to Europe and West Coast but no idea if it was a serious research or not.
Actually, I just found this... published a week ago.
Or Covid has already killed the ones who had the potential to turn serious...
It's the same old thinking: "Ah, it'll be alright". See also Brexit, climate change.
Jesus titty-fecking Christ, that's horrifying to hear.
Yep. You have sensible people like most on this forum doing our best to follow advice and keep people safe, and at the other end of the spectrum you have absolute idiocy like this.
Nah, for all this guy's faults, to be fair to him, that's not one of them. Nice guy, but gets his 'news' from the Sun.
I'm looking at the public health measures as we relax the lockdown, rather than the immediate response to the crisis. I think the vast majority of people agree the lockdown was necessary, and the UK did it too late. At this stage there isn't much evidence that relaxing the measures quickly - while general principles of social distancing, good hygiene and reduced travel remain - will lead to us losing control of the virus. There's growing evidence that relaxing many of the measures has had a relatively small impact, much to the surprise of key experts in the various countries going through that process now.
