I get that sense in and around where I live.
People can go out in a responsible way. I’m not a fan of finger-pointing either but social media is full of footage of young people doing completely reckless partying. Which is a worry.
And many will be and could still be passing it on. Yes there will be plenty of footage of that but nobody is going to be sharing footage of people being responsible.
And telling people to get back on public transport and return to their workplaces etc. The under 30 demographic are the exact same as those who work in retail, bars and restaurants.
Eating in keeps more restaurant staff in employment than eating out. Plus getting people out of their house increases footfall on the streets, which might benefit other small businesses. It’s a tough one. We do need people out and about to keep the economy ticking over. But only if they are sensible. And people are rarely sensible after a few drinks.
It’s a fair point on the waiting staff I suppose. Could there not have been a stipulation that to use the scheme they had to retain all their staff though?
I know they had their highest number of cases for a while yesterday but it's remarkable how well Italy are doing *touchwood*Not looking good in Spain and France.
France saw 4771 cases yesterday.
They should, as that's the best way to enforce the restrictions and causes the least inconvenience to people in localities where there are few cases. My sister lives in Lostock near Bolton and is therefore subject to the restrictions, but in reality Lostock doesn't have a problem.
Trouble is, it all falls apart when people from one (affected) area have to do things with people from another (unaffected) area. For example when your inlaws do your childcare, but you live in Greater Manchester and they live a mile over the boundry in Cheshire. Is it allowed for them to come into your house still or is it not? What if you drive them the other way? You end up with people just saying sod it, it's too confusing.
It isn’t or shouldn’t be confusing at all. The rules are quite clear.
To the likes of me and you who like to read and understand and do the right thing, of course it isn't. To the average person, they don't need nuance, they need very simple instructions.
From Guardian article on Spain.
Looks like morbidity/mortality is catching up with the rapidly increasing number of cases. If this keeps up they’re in real trouble.
I'm not at all convinced his theorising really takes into account what many schools will be like in practice. Distancing within each bubble will not be adhered to at all times(not worth even trying imo). This will be made worse as the weather gets colder and doors and windows need to be closed. Each bubble may be kept seperate with greater success, but I know of primary schools who have members of staff who will regularly move between bubbles. Add this to the fact that parents didn't appear to be respecting distancing or different bubbles at the end of last term, I suspect it will be even worse when full numbers return.
Oh I agree. I think social distancing in school will be patchy at best. And arguably non-existent. I just like his point that it’s possible for the virus to be contained entirely by the actions of the rest of us. Which is an effort worth making to get children back in school.
I agree. But the sort of effort required can only be organised from the top.
My six year old will be starting year 2 in a couple of weeks and the school has informed us that his “bubble” will be the entire year, which is 60 children over two classes
Don’t call them back ffs. Do you miss them or something?
Not at all. I just need to know their whereabouts as I keep getting into arguments with them all over the Internet.
Its ok for Harry Kane.
Please, it’s at least reasonably normal here. All over Internet there’s a huge amount of this idiocy. Never did I realize there were so many extremely dumb people around until this pandemic.
The old people do it here. Better than nothing, I suppose.
The benefit is that you can immediately tell who's a total idiot without having to talk to them.
You never worked in retail then?
The enemy is the disease its not the people. People are not the enemy.
I wonder how many of the 'shamming' brigade were preaching 'be kind' after Caroline Flack's suicide.
It's a bit easier for the government to focus on and blame young people throwing a party than the systemic issues giving rise to infection clusters.
Not much as the main purpose is to reduce infecting others if you have it, and when you sneeze ........
This has been one of my biggest bugbears recently.
Pleaseeeee.
