SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

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And it’s off to hospital for me.

really hope I come out again.
You will be in the best place at least. Hope it's a short stay and you fully recover.
 

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The covid swab we recommend getting first 5 days after symptoms, false negatives can happen. In the context of wife having covid I would say both have covid.
Continous cough is to be expected, so is difficulty breathing but the later is more worrying (especially if any chest pain is involved).

Main issue is how severe the breathing difficulty is, whether its got them doing less activities and how much, is the breathlessness exertional or at rest? Best thing would be to ring the GP or 111 as its Sunday and they can both have vitals checked at a covid hot hub.

If symptoms persist then both can be referred to long covid clinic as well now but might depend on local availability (most places have them)
The breathing difficulty does not sound good. Thanks for the reply.
 

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Not seen a numbers update in a few days:

5th Nov: 24, 138 cases and 378 deaths
6th Nov: 23, 287 cases and 355 deaths
7th Nov: 24, 957 cases and 413 deaths

The death rate, sadly, is where we were at late May, hopefully it doesn't keep moving like this as otherwise in 2-3 weeks we will be hitting the 500+ a day.

Also, sadly, by the end of this week we will reach 50,000 deaths since this began
(within 28 days of +ve result)
 

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Someone at my wife’s work has just tested positive over the weekend.

My wife was in close proximity to her Tues-Thurs. She’s just been for a test as a largely precautionary measure.

My wife’s work is expecting her in I think. Fact she’s 11 weeks pregnant I’ve told her to tell them to piss off.

Surely anyone in close proximity should be isolating for at least a week?
 

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Someone at my wife’s work has just tested positive over the weekend.

My wife was in close proximity to her Tues-Thurs. She’s just been for a test as a largely precautionary measure.

My wife’s work is expecting her in I think. Fact she’s 11 weeks pregnant I’ve told her to tell them to piss off.

Surely anyone in close proximity should be isolating for at least a week?
Yeah I think the gov advice would be for your wife to isolate for 2 weeks from the last time she was with her colleague who tested positive.

Also be cautious with any test result your wife receives. If she's taken it shortly after spending time with her colleague there's the (slim) potential for a false negative.

But yeah, absolutely shouldn't be going into work in her condition. Especially if she's able to be productive from home.

Hope you're both well!
 

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Covid-19 new cases now running at over 125k per day in the USA and accelerating. At that rate, they'll soon be approaching 1 million new cases each week!
 

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It’s crazy isn’t it. Only just a month ago I didn’t really know anyone that had it. Then all of a sudden loads of family/ friends have had it. Then I got it!
Makes you think about whether people are unluckier or less paying attention to the guidelines 2nd time around or maybe just more rife. Whatever it is no one can deny it
 

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Someone at my wife’s work has just tested positive over the weekend.

My wife was in close proximity to her Tues-Thurs. She’s just been for a test as a largely precautionary measure.

My wife’s work is expecting her in I think. Fact she’s 11 weeks pregnant I’ve told her to tell them to piss off.

Surely anyone in close proximity should be isolating for at least a week?
At our place you stay at home unless you have got a negative test to prove you haven't got it, if you can't get a test you stay at home for 10 days.

That's just poor from her employer, zero consideration for their employees well being.
 

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Makes you think about whether people are unluckier or less paying attention to the guidelines 2nd time around or maybe just more rife. Whatever it is no one can deny it
Different pattern I think. I had three family members die in the March/April peak with infections caught late February/early March. One "hospital acquired", one who probably brought it back from holiday in Spain, one who probably caught it from a family member coming back from a skiing holiday in Italy. A friend's dad died in a care home with it as well, again probably hospital/clinic acquired.

When the March/April lockdown started, it hadn't moved far through the community - it was a thing of care homes, hospitals and holidays. So it was easier to know who to avoid, and easier to stay home because the kids were home etc.

Now we're seeing something wider spread in the community, and anyone working/travelling/socialising or in education in the North in particular is at risk of bringing it home.
 

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Covid-19 new cases now running at over 125k per day in the USA and accelerating. At that rate, they'll soon be approaching 1 million new cases each week!
It's too late and I am too lazy to plot the log graph for the number of cases that will be expected by Jan 2021, but I see Trump pouting and not doing anything, and the US may reach 200k cases a day by then.
I hope that Biden and his task force will have some plans in place immediately from Jan 2021.
 

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Any theory about where you picked it up? And how are you feeling?!
I have a simple life. Work from my laptop. So I’m either at home or at the gym (either in a gym class or at the business hub there). I clearly got it from the gym. Other possibilities is something random like the post man, Deliveroo driver.

I’m feeling pretty good to be honest. If Covid wasn’t around, I wouldn’t think anything of it and be carrying on with my normal life. I’m feeling light symptoms like shortness of breath, slight headache, but nothing enough to really bother me.
 

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The contact tracing app just notified me that I was in close proximity to someone who tested +ve. Now the wait begins to get tested. I have a thesis submission deadline in 7 weeks and this is the last fecking thing I needed. :nervous:
 

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At our place you stay at home unless you have got a negative test to prove you haven't got it, if you can't get a test you stay at home for 10 days.

That's just poor from her employer, zero consideration for their employees well being.
I agree. Not sure if there’s anything I can point to? She’s been told to isolate tomorrow and they’ll see what happens. She was sat in a small office with this woman for hours on Thursday. Not sure technically within 2 metres or what have you but it’s concerning!!
 

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I have a simple life. Work from my laptop. So I’m either at home or at the gym (either in a gym class or at the business hub there). I clearly got it from the gym. Other possibilities is something random like the post man, Deliveroo driver.

I’m feeling pretty good to be honest. If Covid wasn’t around, I wouldn’t think anything of it and be carrying on with my normal life. I’m feeling light symptoms like shortness of breath, slight headache, but nothing enough to really bother me.
Good to hear. I always get a wee bit jealous of anyone who gets a mild dose. Shitty to have to self isolate but must be good to get it over with. You’ve basically jumped the queue for a vaccination!
 

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Good to hear. I always get a wee bit jealous of anyone who gets a mild dose. Shitty to have to self isolate but must be good to get it over with. You’ve basically jumped the queue for a vaccination!
Exactly that. Always the fear of getting it and it really affects you. Like you said, hopefully gives me a bit of immunity.

A bit of background on myself, I’m 30 years old in the best physical condition I’ve ever been in. I’ve lost 25kg in the past 15 months. So I wonder if this has helped fight the virus?
 

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The contact tracing app just notified me that I was in close proximity to someone who tested +ve. Now the wait begins to get tested. I have a thesis submission deadline in 7 weeks and this is the last fecking thing I needed. :nervous:
Good excuse to get down and write ;)

But nah seriously, as someone who has just submitted my own thesis that extra stress at that stage is the last thing I would have wanted. Good luck!
 

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Exactly that. Always the fear of getting it and it really affects you. Like you said, hopefully gives me a bit of immunity.

A bit of background on myself, I’m 30 years old in the best physical condition I’ve ever been in. I’ve lost 25kg in the past 15 months. So I wonder if this has helped fight the virus?
Being young/fit definitely helps. Although there are all sorts of examples of very fit young people getting wrecked by it. The first case in France was a triathlete about the same age as you who ended up spending months in ICU. So there has to be some kind of genetic lottery going on here. Plus viral load might have something to do with it (i.e. if you got a tiny dose from the gym that gives you a mild illness vs someone who spends hours indoors very close to someone who is spewing virus)
 

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Is anyone else finding their parents are acting as bad if not worse than teenagers wrt Covid?
My brother has just tested positive and is living at home with our parents. Dad went to get tested but mum has refused because she thinks they will tell her she isn't allowed to see anyone for 6 months. I despair.
 

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Good excuse to get down and write ;)

But nah seriously, as someone who has just submitted my own thesis that extra stress at that stage is the last thing I would have wanted. Good luck!
Yeah just biked down 6 kms to get tested. Now if I test -ve twice, I can go back to work as I really need some face to face meetings with my supervisor.
 

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Is anyone else finding their parents are acting as bad if not worse than teenagers wrt Covid?
My brother has just tested positive and is living at home with our parents. Dad went to get tested but mum has refused because she thinks they will tell her she isn't allowed to see anyone for 6 months. I despair.
Give her the facts, 14 days and she’ll be grand. Meeting people in the regulations of course
 

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I've just had an invite to join the Novavax vaccine phase three trial. Anyone know anything about this vaccine and it's story so far?

Also, I've managed to confuse myself over whether I want to be in a trial - or just sit and wait for whatever the NHS starts dishing out next year. Oddly, it's not the trial bit that bothers me - the trial vaccine might be better than the approved one (whichever one that is) - it's the other what ifs.

In this case it's the what if I get a placebo instead, that would be really annoying (and how long before they tell me that I'd better go and have the real thing!). And what if taking the approved vaccine let me travel more freely, or do things (like go to football matches) and the trial one didn't. Realistic worries?
From what I've read the main concerns are that people with autoimmune issues can suffer side-effects and I guess you wouldn't have been accepted if you had any such history.
 

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I've just had an invite to join the Novavax vaccine phase three trial. Anyone know anything about this vaccine and it's story so far?

Also, I've managed to confuse myself over whether I want to be in a trial - or just sit and wait for whatever the NHS starts dishing out next year. Oddly, it's not the trial bit that bothers me - the trial vaccine might be better than the approved one (whichever one that is) - it's the other what ifs.

In this case it's the what if I get a placebo instead, that would be really annoying (and how long before they tell me that I'd better go and have the real thing!). And what if taking the approved vaccine let me travel more freely, or do things (like go to football matches) and the trial one didn't. Realistic worries?
They are realistic worries but there should be a lengthy informed consent form (ICF) which will include an FAQ to deal with questions like this. Have a read of that before making any decision.

The ethics of using a placebo in these studies is a hot topic at the moment. Here’s an interesting article on this topic. My own take as a potential participant would be that a 50:50 shot at a potentially effective vaccine several months (or even years?) before you’d get it otherwise is probably worth the risk.
 

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If anyone wants my day by day diary:

Day 1 - felt a bit wiped out. Very slightly. I still went by my normal day, didn’t cross my mind I had Covid. Still gymed.
Day 2 - also the first day of lockdown. I realised I couldn’t taste my dinner. I isolated as soon as I thought I may have Covid at my parents house.
Day 3 - had my test. Feeling fine. Taste is coming back. Smell still gone.
Day 4 - tested positive, everyone I came into contact with got the test. They found out in the evening they’re all negative. Smell coming back. Breathing slightly shortened. Not sure if it’s in my head though. Smashed out the indoor cycle twice today.
Day 5 - breathing is better. Full of energy. Taste and smell back. Will smash out more indoor cycle in a bit.
Day 5 update - feeling quite wiped out this evening. Very light headed. Hoping after a good nights sleep I’ll be back to normal tomorrow.
 

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Will smash out more indoor cycle in a bit.
Take it gently. Athletes are being advised to rest rather than to attempt to maintain physical exercise during the quarantine period, even if they've only got minor symptoms, because it's easy to overdo it and put more strain on the heart and lungs. I guess you're not smashing it that hard but I've read/heard that people can feel quite well but then suddenly realise they've got a problem.

Day 5 update - feeling quite wiped out this evening. Very light headed. Hoping after a good nights sleep I’ll be back to normal tomorrow.
Take it gently!
 

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The ethics of using a placebo in these studies is a hot topic at the moment. Here’s an interesting article on this topic. My own take as a potential participant would be that a 50:50 shot at a potentially effective vaccine several months (or even years?) before you’d get it otherwise is probably worth the risk.
The ideas in that article are exactly what worry me because in many ways I agree with the writer :smirk: I'm kind of willing to give them "informed" consent regarding the vaccine v another vaccine, but I'd want to stick a time limit on it if I was in the placebo group - and there's no real way to know when a trial would get to that stage! As the PHE lot are talking about a vaccine rollout in my age group during the first half of next year, that's quite a narrow window. Unless, as an ethical principle, they could unblind the trial and turn the placebo group into a "best approved vaccine" group and run the trial against that (rather than against nothing/placebo).I just dont know if they would/can without invalidating their work.

I know they're doing something of the sort in the treatment trials, so I'm curious as to whether they can (would?) apply it to vaccine trials as well. I believe Pfizer(?) may have already asked for permission to give their placebo group their vaccine, but I don't know if that was a purely hypothetical request (anticipating great trial results) or whether it got approved/rejected.
 

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Nice breathing exercises and vitamin D is probably best. Keep the oxygen levels high and lungs dry while you can.
 

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Only just heard about the mink outbreak (only watching CNN for 5 days) 17 million exterminated is crazy :eek:

It does show you how serious they're taking it though. Best to assume it's nothing for now for the sake of all our mental well-being.