Great news and I bet you’re right about the old boots
you can almost picture her.SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
you can almost picture her.How bad is your Asthma, Vol? Does it cause you day to day problems?
How is normally affected when you get a heavy cold etc?
It's good to hear a positive out of all this.
France with past 24h:
Cases 19,856 +3176
Deaths 860 +186
Cases 19,856 +3176
Deaths 860 +186
Really feel Boris tried to give the benefit of the doubt, let people make the choice to listen to the government, but a lockdown was inevitable. The images of the tube today, I can't believe all those passengers were critical workers.
Amazing. Hope she has many more years to come.
He did to be fair to him, I think he's been left with no alternative.
This isn't on people, this is on business continuing to operate.
I work in a warehouse which currently employs circa 3000 people, they are not closing... What do you expect those people to do?
Symptoms take a couple of weeks to clear dont they? 2 weeks ago we had just beaten City in front of a full crowd and there wasn't that much spread around the world (but it was getting there). So the big explosion of new cases over the last 2 weeks, pretty much the only ones that would have been "closed" would be deaths. Mild cases that were freshly diagnosed within the past week wouldn't yet clear.
My country (South Africa) going into 21 day national lockdown from Thursday.
The businesses are at fault here, I agree. TFL for reducing services too, it's had the opposite effect.
That's what I'm clinging to yeah.
Maybe I'm a cold bastard, fair enough.
I just think it'll be fine. You'll be fine. Most of us will be absolutely fine.. It's worth a look at the numbers of people dying from heart disease, from strokes, from cancers.. I think it helps keep perspective on all this.
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Not totally clued up on this, but have the Democrats in USA really blocked givernement financial aid to businesses?
Not awful asthma, I had it bad as a kid but grew out of it in my late teens. Now it comes and goes, usually in hay fever season but over winter / cold weather it’s a bit worse and just lately it’s been the worst it’s been for years ... comedy timing!
Whenever I have a cold it always ends up on my chest. Never really bothered about it too much but with this thing ... well, can’t say I’m not concerned.
What about you? You say you’re on the risk list? How come?
Deep breaths.
- What about the 34yr old neutropaenic chemotherapy patient?
- What about the 17yr old with arthritis on immunosuppressing methotrexate long term?
- What about the 21yr old girl with cystic fibrosis?
- What about the 31yr old guy with chronically poorly controlled asthma who's already had 1 ITU stay in the past year?
- What about the 39yr old diabetic man?
- What about the 42 yr old liver transplant lady on anti-rejection medication?
- What about the 36yr old nurse in London who's currently ventilated previously being fit and well?
All these groups, except for the last one, are high risk. To assume this is simply a disease of the old is naïve. I'm happy you're not old. I'm not old either but this is quite frankly an unprecedented event we are about to deal with. It's all very well to just wave this away because you'll likely get mild symptoms, but it's time to stop being so selfish and start looking out for others more vulnerable than yourself. I don't know if you're British, but it's starting to piss me off here in the UK at people's apparent blasé approach to this - congregating at the beach at the weekend just past, going for large group cycles, that 'essential' travel to Snowdonia as seen on GMB. People need to be shit-scared of this, it's the only way they'll wise-the-feck-up and refrain from such things.
We had a significant update today that has come close to home. One of our nurses took unwell on Thursday and is now tubed and ventilated after contracting COVID.
I want people to realise just what is going on and what will happen:
- Hospitals are woefully unprepared for this, despite the best efforts of those working there, the tsunami of patients expected in the coming weeks will cripple the NHS. There's not enough PPE available. There's not enough tests - staff aren't being tested for it. There's not enough beds. One hospital here wont have enough oxygen ffs.
- People are being made DNACPR upon arrival to a hospital if they are over a certain age with even 1 co-morbidity. Fact of the matter is if they required ITU and there's one bed left, the person without the co-morbidity will be taken. The other person? Sent to the ward without nearly as much monitoring or oxygen availability. Wards in London have reported multiple patients being sent there to slowly fade.
- Staff in ITU have been briefed on dealing with colleague bereavement. Mental health is being prioritised for the staff.
- Operations requiring ITU care post surgically are being cancelled to save space. That has significant repurcussions for the general public.
- There are beds available at the moment in ITU, but in 2 - 3 weeks time? Place is going to be a shitshow.
Many people will die and they wont just be a 'tiny number of old people'. I'm not saying this to stoke fear, but quite frankly it's got to the point now I need to be realistic to others as to what is happening in the hospitals and what we're being told. I don't give a feck if you're not old, or if you're mate's aren't old. I give a feck about people adhering to the strict guidelines set out to them (and I hope we move to lockdown very quickly) in order to protect as many people as possible.
This is unprecedented.
Yes something to do with not enough financial support to the ordinary people but a lot of support to the corporations.
Yeah there’s a $500bn dollar corporate slush fund which specifically says that the recipients will have their identities protected for 6 months and Steve Mnunchin has free reign over how to allocate it.
The democrats are being very clear that they want to protect all businesses and all Americans, not just bail out the corporations who have already abused their tax cuts by using it for stock buybacks rather than trickle down like they promised.
Numbers are numbers. I get my perspective from people. I have close work colleagues in both Italy and France and the way their lives have been affected is astonishing.
Two of my UK friends have been laid off for a minimum of 3 months unpaid. Elderly neighbours are living in isolation and fear.
Ultimately most people will be fine if we just look at numbers, but sorry to burst your bubble, there’s nothing guaranteeing you will be fine or those close to you, regardless of age.
With regards the guidelines (not sure if you've seen them but I'll post them on @Grinner 's info only thread) they're fairly comprehensive. I also have asthma and it also just flares up when I get virally.
Currently if you take a ventolin/blue inhaler more than 3 times per week, you just have to increase social distancing. Things get more serious if you require 3rd line things like montelukast and high dosed steroidal inhalers.
As I say, I'll post those guidelines up and you can have a wee look yourself to see where you fall into.
So this has already started happening? I don't even know what to say. We don't even hit the the peak of the virus until about mid May.
Strong rumours of a UK lockdown being announced later. What do we think?
Yep, almost completely lost my sense of smell. Bleaching the toilet, can't smell it, nose in a coffee pot, can't smell it. Bought some mothers day flowers from interflora and can't smell a thing. Randomly, I can smell broccoli, must have something to do with which nasal receptors are affected? That's just a guess though.
Was having a set to with the Mrs all weekend about a smell in the kitchen. I was adamant I couldn't smell anything and she thought I was taking the piss.
Been about three days now, last in London on the 12th March, since then only a brief check in to a Sainsbury's local and picking up my kid from nursery, which is where I suspect it came from.
Couple of aches and pains and some sniffles which I dismissed as I was already at home and daughter had a cold. If these are the only symptoms I get ill count myself very lucky if I do indeed have it.
Updated today for those with asthma:
https://www.asthma.org.uk/advice/triggers/coronavirus-covid-19/
https://www.asthma.org.uk/advice/triggers/coronavirus-covid-19/
My country's government is doing really well at the moment in my opinion. We are adding extra emergency hospital beds in record pace. Communication has been excellent too. Glad.
Yes dude. Uk. Top of the roller coaster time.
I think you're right. It's awful that a lot of people are going to die from this, but most aren't. It'll be the panic and people freaking out that causes most problems with this. Now that's not to say that we can't do a lot better to reduce the casualty numbers. I think there have been definite failures with that from our leaders.
Yeah my family just told me about this.
In general SA have been way more on it and proactive then we have... And when the SA government is making you look bad, then you know you've really shit the bed.
Thanks, yes I’m being a very good boy and social distancing ... I don’t find that so hard, I like my own company for the most part
Highly likely, a cobra meeting has a wide involvement of various bodies and to make such changes ie. a lockdown, then i'm sure military would be consulted as part of that process.
It is unprecedented and it is going to kill loads of people. But that wasn't what I was responding to.
Look it doesn't matter, we all get it, I just didn't agree on the being terrified thing. It's fine. Each to their own.
In parts, yes. I don't want to waft the fire of fear, but it's important for people to know that if they come in with a loved one that difficult conversations may be initiated from the get go.
About time.
I'd say pretty likely with there being a COBRA meeting at this time. Overdue.
Who is we?
I also have asthma, started late (30 years old). At first I had to use albuterol all the time but now I have it under control (use one puff of breo every 7-10 days). I think my asthma is due to allergies (cats/dust) since I never suffer from it on vacations. Also it never bothered me when I had a regular cold so I'm optimistic.