Also much less obesity in Africa so pretty useless all round to compare for IcU numbers.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
Isn’t in effect yet is it? They haven’t set date.
Apparently the fully vaccinated passengers could travel on those planes with no pre-flight test, the unvaxxed needed a pre-flight test. I guess we're all waiting now for what Netherlands tell us about the details really.
If it is something like a cruise ship group disproportionately involved in the positive tests then the chances are they'd have had to show they were double vaccinated to the tour company as well. Pure speculation of course, more an attempt to get something positive out the scenario than anything else
To make it worse, many of those < 65 are immunocompromised, public healthcare is absolutely terrible (private is world class) and vaccination rates are low. So there may be a relatively high mortality rate for the population which will cause even more panic.
Ah, sorry. From your other post it almost sounded as if you were suggesting that the government and media were in on some kind of giant conspiracy. I dread speaking to one of my friends later tonight, because he's been harping on about this "December 2-5 4th wave prediction". I'm also South African. Science can seem like magic. It just goes to show how this virus (waves, etc) is actually very predictable if you have the data and the knowledge on how to apply it.
Tonight Ramaphosa will probably push us up a level or two, but I don't think he's going to stop interprovincial travel. Your restaurant and our country will be hit with an alcohol ban (surely not tonight...?), but I hope/think it will be a more lucrative December for you this time around. Beaches? I really don't think they'll close beaches again for such a prolonged period, but definitely for those busy December/January days .
The country depends on tourism, and with international flights off the cards I really can't see Cyril twisting the knife even further by killing the holiday for everyone.
And yes, the numbers are growing very quickly. My guess is it's happening in pockets, not across the board. And if Omicron is more contagious then the growing numbers shouldn't come as a surprise.
Good luck buddy. We're all in this together.
Hope its okey to Ask here. I am flying to Manchester from Sweden on this friday to watch the Palace game. I am flying home on sunday after the match.
I am reading now that i need to do a PCR test and wait for the testresult in isolation. So how fast does the result come? If i take the test on saturday, can i even watch the game on sunday?
I am reading now that i need to do a PCR test and wait for the testresult in isolation. So how fast does the result come? If i take the test on saturday, can i even watch the game on sunday?
Was supposed to book flights over there on Friday and never got around to it, thank feckI had a PCR test on Friday result came back 24 hrs later to within the hour. Guy said most do but, and you don't want to here this, but he also said ring the number on the back of the form if you haven't heard back in three days.
Its a gamble I'm afraid.
There are 3 hour PCR tests available but they're not yet setup for the Day 2 arrivals system. Its also not clear what self isolate will mean either. You're going to have to wait a few days for testing companies to get their offers sorted out.
Thanks both of you. I will wait a couple of days to see if there is any new information and if its not possible to get it faster than 24h i probably cancel the trip
Most of the private companies are returning results too slowly to guarantee it. If you do it on Friday, on arrival at the airport (pre-book a walk-in appointment) you might be able to get a "quick" turnround time version of the 2 day test though. Quick in this context at Manchester airport means they say they'll give you the result next day, I've no idea how reliable those services are though. It might be ok - because it's not peak season. It might fail completely - because we've just switched from most people needing LFTs back to PCRs again so the capacity may not be there.
Sorry.
Thanks. Will wait and see if its possible for faster results and if its not i will cancel. Fecking sucks, first trip in years and timed it perfectly with the new variant
I know it’s sucks but better safe than sorryThanks. Will wait and see if its possible for faster results and if its not i will cancel. Fecking sucks, first trip in years and timed it perfectly with the new variant
True. Will be even sweeter to go in the spring also, if this goes to shit.
I also think even if you went you’d spend time worrying about getting the test back in time. That would ruin the experience
Yes, we had plans for saturday also that we cant do if we will have to wait. So i only will travel if its a legal and aproved way to get results within a few hours.
Got my booster today. Haven’t died yet, though I did get slightly dizzy head for a minute in the recovery area. Grand now
I heard the booster is the toughest of the three. How did you react to the other two?
So I got over a bout of Covid a little under 2 months ago - anyone know when I should/could get my booster? (UK).
I had my second AZ jab in mid May but not sure if any natural antibodies would stop me from getting the booster - I'm not eligible yet for it but expect the gov to widen the age ranges soon.
I had my second AZ jab in mid May but not sure if any natural antibodies would stop me from getting the booster - I'm not eligible yet for it but expect the gov to widen the age ranges soon.
When I looked on the NHS last week it told me 6 months after the 2nd jab but also I had to wait 28 days since I tested positive - that works out exactly the same for me oddly enough.
Are you just describing Lindelof's performance today?
Sick after the 2nd one for a couple of days and then grand. No reaction to first one
My reaction to him maybeIf the BBC are right then the rules for travel from Ireland to the UK are indeed unchanged - that is no tests or quarantine required.
"Everyone entering the UK (other than those coming from the Common Travel Area that covers the Channel Islands and Ireland) will have to take a PCR test by the end of the second full day after their arrival and self-isolate until they receive a negative result."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59453744
That could change of course.
It was the toughest of the three for me. Was completely knackered for 3 days. Really weak, muscle aches etc, but no fever. After 3 days I felt better than ever though. Glad I did it.
You might feel it tomorrow. I got mine at 18.00 felt fine went out went to sleep, all was well. Next day it hit me, felt completely knackered for almost 3 days. Took pain killers to help.
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Yeah I’ve just got up for the school run and it feels like Mike Tyson has battered me around the ring
We are all shitting ourselves ‘cause we’re suffering from global insecurity.
The italicized bit comes from a medically reviewed article entitled “Signs of insecurity” on WebMD.
Some of our thoughts can be filled with doubt…Too much insecurity can lead to other problems…Insecurity produces anxiety about your ability to handle certain situations…It might stem from a traumatic event…It can also stem from general instability...Insecurity often bleeds over from one area of life into another….Insecurity can lead to mental health risks…People with insecurity often want to appear secure, and their explicit comments may be at odds with their automatic responses to certain stimuli…the act of faking then reinforces the social insecurity...Social insecurity can lead people to avoid social interactions, isolating themselves…All types of insecurity can lead to decreased mental wellness. Depressive or anxious behaviour or thinking is often an effect of insecurity…
Has there ever been a time when society has been this insecure? I used to think this COVID shite would prepare us for future medical/biological challenges (of which there would be many), but now I’m wondering if we’ll ever get out of this rut. Is it just going to spiral onwards? Who knows? Perhaps the most disconcerting of all of this is the “anti-science” sentiment that has brainwashed 50% of everyone on earth. If we can’t rely on science during a scientific challenge, who or what can we rely on to get us through this or similar challenges in the future?
The italicized bit comes from a medically reviewed article entitled “Signs of insecurity” on WebMD.
Some of our thoughts can be filled with doubt…Too much insecurity can lead to other problems…Insecurity produces anxiety about your ability to handle certain situations…It might stem from a traumatic event…It can also stem from general instability...Insecurity often bleeds over from one area of life into another….Insecurity can lead to mental health risks…People with insecurity often want to appear secure, and their explicit comments may be at odds with their automatic responses to certain stimuli…the act of faking then reinforces the social insecurity...Social insecurity can lead people to avoid social interactions, isolating themselves…All types of insecurity can lead to decreased mental wellness. Depressive or anxious behaviour or thinking is often an effect of insecurity…
Has there ever been a time when society has been this insecure? I used to think this COVID shite would prepare us for future medical/biological challenges (of which there would be many), but now I’m wondering if we’ll ever get out of this rut. Is it just going to spiral onwards? Who knows? Perhaps the most disconcerting of all of this is the “anti-science” sentiment that has brainwashed 50% of everyone on earth. If we can’t rely on science during a scientific challenge, who or what can we rely on to get us through this or similar challenges in the future?
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At this point, would we be better off just closing our borders to any country that doesn’t have a good handle on Covid, e.g. less than 50% fully vaccinated? Because it’s those countries where new variants are more likely to develop. Closing borders after a new variant has emerged is too late imo.
Yeah. Let's just isolate ourselves completely. Global village? Pah! Let's drop the "global" and get back to "village"
Village for the villagers?
Am I missing the reference here?
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here we here we here we fkn go
Young man, there's no need to feel down.
you can get same day result pcr tests but need to pay a bit more
I just booked mine as I'm arriving in Heathrow next week, getting a test at the airport for £139 - result guaranteed by nidnight
I live in South AfricaYoung man, pick yourself off the ground.
No man does it all by himself
Bit harsh for the West to take vaccines off these countries, using them instead for their own boosters, and soon no doubt another round of boosters; and then punish these countries for ”not having a good handle on Covid”