Injuries happening on international duty can't be helped. It's just unlucky.
Schweinsteiger Suffers MCL Injury
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fecking hell, it gets worse 
He didn't look likely to contribute much at the end of this season anyway. If it means he misses the Euros and starts his rehab over summer, it's not the worst thing in the world.
With Carrick on his last legs and Bastian injuries i think its safe to say that we need to rebuild the midfield again.
That's him for the season then. Looks like Pep was right. Thankfully, with Carrick, Schneiderlin, Fellaini and Herrera, we should have enough to finish the season strongly.
I'm recovering from a MCL tear (grade 2) right now -- no fun but not the worst knee injury you can suffer. Two months into rehab and I'm only now running again. Another month before I return to the pitch.
For a professional athlete with the best medical supervision possible I'd say 2 months max for a full recovery before intense training resumes. But in reality he shouldn't even be considered for the Euros so I'd expect him to be fully recovered and in decent fitness for us in July.
rebuild? We did a patch up job with Bastian...Morgan was never top tier.
This is the most important area and we have been farting about....for years.
I think we need two centre midfielders next summer, Fellaini does not sort us sure, but Bastian is never fit and Carrick is getting old. I think Ander & Morgan are ok. However we can't rely on Bastian to stay fit.
Disagree completely. The season hasn't been altogether consistent for him, but he is a top CM in my book. And I'd be surprised if he wasn't much improved next season. Herrera and Schneiderlin would be my constant CM pairing if I were choosing the team
Part of me wants him to be there in seasons to come as an experienced head. Part of me can see him becoming dead wood quickly and thinks we should avoid holding on to players for too long.
Never like to see players get injured but i'll not care if he doesn't play for us again. Hes offered almost nothing since arriving and i hope this forces us into the transfer market for two CM.
Carrick still has some great games but is on the decline. Schweinsteiger hasn't looked good enough for us since he arrived, which is a real shame.
I do hope this is the end of his united career and he'll go to the US or somewhere where he can dtill do a job and get a pay day. Seems like a nice chap but its not worked out.
Carrick still has some great games but is on the decline. Schweinsteiger hasn't looked good enough for us since he arrived, which is a real shame.
I do hope this is the end of his united career and he'll go to the US or somewhere where he can dtill do a job and get a pay day. Seems like a nice chap but its not worked out.
Yeah he's one of the best in his role, needs to be complemented by a more creative cm such as an on form Ander.
Not as sold on Herrera, but schneiderlin is easily good enough to be a regular starter in a title winning side. He's one of the best in that role in the league, if not the best.
But with Carrick out of contract, bearing in mind how poor he's been this season, Fellaini looking nothing like a competent central midfielder, and schweiny's knees it's pretty clear we need to bring in at least one established midfielder. Two if Carrick leaves and Fellaini is sold.
But with Carrick out of contract, bearing in mind how poor he's been this season, Fellaini looking nothing like a competent central midfielder, and schweiny's knees it's pretty clear we need to bring in at least one established midfielder. Two if Carrick leaves and Fellaini is sold.
A little part of me can't help feeling that he was somewhat responsible for the slow, overly-cautious style of football we played for parts of the first half of the season. Obviously it's down to Van Gaal, that's clear as day, but Schweinsteiger's style of play in that deeper role definitely seemed to... enable it, somehow. He was metronomic, yes, but from fifteen yards too deep on the pitch and with half the necessary intensity.
With Schneiderlin and Herrera fit, this doesn't feel like a massive blow. When Schneiderlin picks up the inevitable injury, I might feel differently.
With Schneiderlin and Herrera fit, this doesn't feel like a massive blow. When Schneiderlin picks up the inevitable injury, I might feel differently.
van Gaal's style may well be a factor in Morgan not being more direct. Of the two I felt Herrera was the one that was top quality. We still though need to replace Carrick and get a more reliable player to replace Bastian.
Teddy Sherringham, Robin van Persie
Bring on the horse placenta.
Another injury that makes me feel nothing. Bastian has been next to non existent so not really a loss for me.
Worth a punt, didn't work out. Next!
Kroos
It was always going to be a last bumper pay day for him. As Pep said, he hasn't really been fit for 3 years and considering the type of player he was, he was always going to decline or become injury prone after 30. It's weird really, but I've never really considered him a united player for some reason, can't put my finger on it.
Complete flop, never fit, looks overweight, would have been OK as a gamble if we had the luxury of a decent midfield but we haven't.
"Complete flop" is going a bit over the top. Had some very good games for us in the first half of the season. "Never fit" is nonsense as well, as he played a part in 24 out of 25 games (excluding the suspension, and only not making it on to the pitch for the Boro game in the LC) before getting injured against Swansea. That particular injury wasn't because he is injury prone either. His knee took a hammering from a challenge. He played on, but he definitely shouldn't have done. It would have sidelined anyone.
For the price, it was a risk worth taking, and it hasn't bombed like Falcao did. At least Basti has put in some good performances, and played plenty of games. I would guess his presence off the pitch is very good too, considering when he's on it, he seems to be barking orders at everyone. Regardless of who wears the armband, it's always looked clear who the captain is when he plays.
For the price, it was a risk worth taking, and it hasn't bombed like Falcao did. At least Basti has put in some good performances, and played plenty of games. I would guess his presence off the pitch is very good too, considering when he's on it, he seems to be barking orders at everyone. Regardless of who wears the armband, it's always looked clear who the captain is when he plays.
With Easter being on Sunday, I generally don't start slow-roasting until late on Saturday night. Pop it in around 11pm at about 150 degrees.
Bayern did see us coming fair play. But for 6m pounds or whatever we paid I guess its not as bad as buying Owen I'm a City loving cnut Hargreaves. Just glad we'll be strengthening the centre midfield before next season as Carrick should be gone, well that's my hope anyway as cant rely on him either. Hopefully we'll buy this Sanchez and another.
I'm think that Schweinsteiger was basically done when he signed and that's why Bayern sold him, he's an institution at Bayern and his off field contributions and leadership would have been valuable to Bayern even as a bit part player so they knew he was done.
I'd cut our losses with Schweinsteiger in the summer as he's on £250k plus a week and there's no point paying someone that amount of money to occasionally play, we needed younger and more dynamic players like Pogba or Niguez.
I'd cut our losses with Schweinsteiger in the summer as he's on £250k plus a week and there's no point paying someone that amount of money to occasionally play, we needed younger and more dynamic players like Pogba or Niguez.
for 6m it was worth the gamble. bayern didn't have our pants down for 6m.
Exactly when it was first reported we paid like 14m I was skeptical but for the 6m he was worth the shot. Bayern though knew he was done fitness wise so it was a risk that seems to have failed although he has made a lot of appearances he has never looked fit, his desire and general greatness got him through some games but I fear for him next season.
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I hope this isn't the end for him.
He's a proper midfield general, a true captain. You'd imagine it'd be great for the youngsters to work with him.
I know it was a few years ago now, but him vs Mascherano in the world cup final a few years back was incredible to watch.
He's a proper midfield general, a true captain. You'd imagine it'd be great for the youngsters to work with him.
I know it was a few years ago now, but him vs Mascherano in the world cup final a few years back was incredible to watch.
You missed my point.
We should then have enough back up/ players that don't get injured as often. Enough of the injury excuse.
We have no idea why they get injuries, granted Schweinsteiger was injury prone, but many of our players aren't on the whole (ignoring Jones).
Ashley Young is an example of a player bought by the club that got to us with an injury free record and then suddenly started to break down. Identifying what the issue is and why it happens is the important thing.
He could have done a job for us...............3 years ago.
He's been our best cm this season but thats not saying much.. I was looking forward to see him with Germany this summer but that won't happen.. Hopefully he will come back strong next season but I am not putting my money on it..
I posted in the BFS performance thread, a link showing that BFS has been our second fastest player this season, only beaten by Martial.
But ahead of Smalling and Rashford, google it!
People have different body types, calling a professional footballer fat, is just stupid.
Oh nevermind, i googled it for you, since i guess you wouldn't bother
https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/marcus-rashford-fast-three-manchester-141531182.html
I agree with you, he has been our best CM.
Think him and Schneiderlin will be great under Mourinho!
We still do need 1-2 cm's though, with Carrick and hopefully Fellaini on their way out.
Where have you got that from?
older players do tend to get more injuries and are less effective. They do bring experience with them.
Bastian obviously when fit shows his class.
But how many matches has he really played for us.
Bastian obviously when fit shows his class.
But how many matches has he really played for us.
On the bright side the club will now be forced to plan ahead without him, which for me will be a damn good thing.
Just a pity we had to put up with his boring boring play and pay £6m plus three years wages for the privilege.
The absence of his arm-waving 'generalship' should be a good boost for squad morale as well.
Just a pity we had to put up with his boring boring play and pay £6m plus three years wages for the privilege.
The absence of his arm-waving 'generalship' should be a good boost for squad morale as well.
31 appearances. 1,937mins
In comparison:
Carrick: 33 apps, 2,379mins
Herrera: 33 apps, 2,019mins
Schneiderlin: 32apps, 2,498mins
Fellaini: 29apps, 1,827mins
I agree which is also why I don't think we can blame bad luck. This is our own fault and our own short coming.
"My God. This is a crisis for our midfield. Ander?"
"Yes boss?"
"Go get Fellaini."