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That last one was shocking. He just had to stand still and the ball was too his feet, instead he makes a run forward and actually made it an impossible pass. They scored their disallowed goal from the resulting corner.There were two instances where he's just not anticipating where the ball should go. One was at the end where he had 10 yards of space all to himself and was the only outlet, and he still lost possession.
The second one when Greenwood passed the ball and he SHOULD have anticipated where it was gonna be but he was running ahead of it. It wasn't a bad pass, he just got out of the way and turned it into a a bad pass.
@GifLord can you get this one?I thought the exact same. McTominay had no business trying to get ahead of the ball when Greenwood had his back to goal and the lay off was his only option.
Even if he makes that first pass, AWB had no where to go with it anyway, would have been surrounded by 3 players and lost the ball.Don't know why McT is trying to be clever when he has options for easier passes to keep possession.
@GifLord can you get this one?
They scored the disallowed goal from the resulting corner so its just before that
Where's he going? What does he think greenwood is going to do there? There's a chance for a counter there if he waits and takes that ball with him
That’s really poor.
Barely. He still has less touches and passes than Bruno and Fred (per mins played, Fred was withdrawn early and has only 1 less pass) in that midfield. He doesn't defend, doesn't create attacks and really... I don't know what he's offering any more.Got on the ball more today to his credit. Stats bare that out. But then did nowt with it. And again just all over the place offering nothing defensively as well. So frustrating with DvB sat on the bench.
I agree. He's so average or poor at everything.I don't know what he does, honestly.
He doesn't show for the ball enough. Fred and Bruno constantly have more touches and passes than him in that midfield. He doesn't tackle or defend enough, he lets Fred do all the work. He doesn't play-make, his passing ranges from bad to average.
The only skillset he's sometimes good at, is carrying the ball. Is that all it takes to be a starting Man Utd midfielder?
When AWB made that last ditch tackle it was McT who just simply let Doucoure run past him, commentator on my stream was surprised how he didn’t bother tracking him. However, it’s a common theme with him if you watch him play regularly.Barely. He still has less touches and passes than Bruno and Fred (per mins played, Fred was withdrawn early and has only 1 less pass) in that midfield. He doesn't defend, doesn't create attacks and really... I don't know what he's offering any more.
He's really not tbh, and I think Fred is shitBetter than Fred but that isn't saying much.
Height my man, height. It is surely the only reason.Barely. He still has less touches and passes than Bruno and Fred (per mins played, Fred was withdrawn early and has only 1 less pass) in that midfield. He doesn't defend, doesn't create attacks and really... I don't know what he's offering any more.
Oh I agree. Just wanted to acknowledge the good if I’m acknowledging the bad. Again, he did nothing with it. He’s played some decent passes at times this season and I’ve wondered if he was set to kick on. But then he just reverts to the mean.Barely. He still has less touches and passes than Bruno and Fred (per mins played, Fred was withdrawn early and has only 1 less pass) in that midfield. He doesn't defend, doesn't create attacks and really... I don't know what he's offering any more.
Pillock, he gets that ball by standing still and all he has to do is feed Bruno.Instead he goes to the one place the ball is never going to end up.
Exact same moment stood out for me. At the moment Greenwood received the ball McTominay had vacated a pocket of space and put an Everton player between himself and the ball. Absolutely no chance for Greenwood to hit him with a pass. Sums up everything that is wrong with his game.I thought the exact same. McTominay had no business trying to get ahead of the ball when Greenwood had his back to goal and the lay off was his only option.
This trait is why people, myself included use the term hiding. He does it so often it's either cowardice(footballing) or ignorance.Exact same moment stood out for me. At the moment Greenwood received the ball McTominay had vacated a pocket of space and put an Everton player between himself and the ball. Absolutely no chance for Greenwood to hit him with a pass. Sums up everything that is wrong with his game.
It’s not cowardice. He’s not scared. In that clip he obviously wanted to get on the ball. It’s just really poor movement and sense of where he should position himself. Which is a disaster in someone who wants to play in central midfield.This trait is why people, myself included use the term hiding. He does it so often it's either cowardice(footballing) or ignorance.
Definitely the latter in that particular clip but there are plenty of times where he jogs behind an opposition player when we are building up play from the back. When the game is slow and you are still not showing for the ball it's troubling in addition to the other worrying traits you mentioned!It’s not cowardice. He’s not scared. In that clip he obviously wanted to get on the ball. It’s just really poor movement and sense of where he should position himself. Which is a disaster in someone who wants to play in central midfield.
Where was he going? That was a decent pass to him and he just ran away from it.
Yeah I keep saying it’s his movement that’s the problem but for some reason posters keep coming up with any and all reasons otherwise. One even cited his lack of long passes. Well if he barely passes the ball at all of course he barely passes it long.It’s not cowardice. He’s not scared. In that clip he obviously wanted to get on the ball. It’s just really poor movement and sense of where he should position himself. Which is a disaster in someone who wants to play in central midfield.
It wasn't that bad in isolation but it's a snippet that highlights his problem. He was galloping forward wanting the ball played in front of him to run on to because that's his instinct. He's an attack minded, box to box midfielder not suited to the role we're asking him to play. A centre mid suited to the holding role or whatever you want to call it would have preempted a pass into feet, held his position, and looked to pass the ball forwards or recycle possession.Where was he going? That was a decent pass to him and he just ran away from it.
Him being out of form is seriously costing us. He was quite good in our run last year. Today in first half, him and Fred actually played well ( not outstanding but much more calmer than our previous game).
Yes. Agree with this.He needs to improve several aspects of his game in order to become a top player.
He can do that given his age.
Do I want us to depend on him as a starter for the next five years?
No, I don't.
He hasn't shown enough to warrant that kind of trust.
Right now, he looks like a good prospect for a squad player (of the sort who will be great to have around, given his background and so forth - but yeah, a squad player for a team aiming for the top).
i agree, McT has youth academy priviledge and will be here for years because of it. Fred has the more blatant howlers though so its easy to go for himI don't think he would start in Everton midfield if he was an Everton player. Fred gets majority of the hate but Mctominay is the worse player and worse today as well, despite Fred's mistake in the goal conceded. Invisible man out there, it's like playing with 10 men.
