There are some players that praise is generally frowned upon. Maguire, McTominay, Bruno Fernandes when he doesn't have a goal contrbution.
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So you think it's just a coincidence that Ten Hag started McTominay right after scoring 2 goals as a sub?
Considering he started the two games prior to the Palace and Brentford games, I'd say its more tactical than anything else.
Yeah, whatever anyone thinks of individual players starting, I think it's quite clear that EtH picks them based on combinations rather than individuals. Imagine Scott will soon be returned to the bench when others return to offer what Erik wants. Whether we agree with him or not is another matter, but I don't think it's some blind favouritism or picking someone because they scored a goal or two in a crucial moment.
Agreed, and yes I can see McTominay dropping to the bench once the other midfielders gain some form or perform to the level required.
I think it's pretty apparent that ETH trusts him more then our other midfielders right now.
His performances have been getting better as well.
HIs biggest flaw was always not getting on the ball enough and he's been noticeably more involved recently.
vs Brighton 20 touches, 17 passes attempted
vs Burnley 43 touches, 33 passes attempted
vs Sheffield 30 touches, 29 passes attempted (62 minutes)
vs City 17 touches, 12 passes attempted
vs Fulham 56 touches, 40 passes attempted
vs Luton 55 touches, 45 passes attempted
Yeah he definitely has been - he was actively asking for the ball / moving in between the centre backs for Onana in the second half on Saturday
I think he's a good squad option against pretty much all of the bottom 10 in the prem and can hold his own. I think West Ham's interest in him in the summer is a fair reflection of his true level, but he has this weird knack to deliver some big moments so kudos to him for that.
It's clear against better opposition he's not able to get himself involved in games and shouldn't be starting in those games, but deserves credit this season for his contribution.
Maguire gave him a bit of a bollocking after about 30 mins in the first half for not making an angle for a pass, he piked up after that but it was really Eriksen getting injured that gave him the opportunity to get on the ball more, it is clearly much easier to rack up passing stats as a DM than a more advanced player, though large passing numbers don't necessarily mean good midfield play. Consistently low numbers is clearly not a good thing either.
The people still crying that he was not sold in the Summer I don't get, we just would have bought Amrabat who in everything we have seen so far is not a clear upgrade if at all. Sell him if it is a decent offer and does not weaken the squad, don't just sell for the sake of it. He has played his part in the improved results, it may not be pretty but Ten Hag needed some wins or he was out the door.
Another international, another goal.
7 goals in 7 matches for Scotland
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Against the mighty Georgia. Kind of like when Welbeck would score a couple of goals against San Marino and the press would go on about how much better he played for England than United.
There’s always someone to poop the party
That's a really nice goal, regardless of opposition. But also a bit odd because it looks like the ball isn't moving that fast.
What sort of supporter would be so critical of their own player’s intentional achievements?
Are you forgetting his double v Spain?
He also scored against Spain away which was incorrectly disallowed.
He is even taking the corners for them.
If Hojlund is injured or needs a break play McTominay up top. Stop messing about with Martial.
Nah, Utd managers just don't know how to use him.
Get ETH out and bring in Steve Clarke so we can see the real McTominay.
Can only play what's in front of you, a goal is a fecking goal.
That’s true but Georgia are ranked 76th in the world below Cabo Verde and Montenegro. Much international football major tournaments aside is well below Premiership standard. As I said it’s why Welbeck seemed to have an OK record for England but couldn’t hit a barn door at 2 paces for us.
Nice goal, but seems that Steve Clarke had put a tenner on McT not to score in this game, he looks well cheesed of
What is it, 7 out of 7 for Scotland, and with more league goals for Utd than our six furthermost attackers combined this year (Rashford, Garnacho, Martial, Højlund, Antony, Pellistri)? Is he our best striker, tied with Højlund?Nice goal, but seems that Steve Clarke had put a tenner on McT not to score in this game, he looks well cheesed of
Scotland are ranked below Tunisia at 34, hardly stunning stuff themselves.
Mctominay must be the only player to get crap from his own clubs fans for having scored 7 goals in 7 games for his International side.
I was going to say, even without the numbers, he's improving - perhaps against lower league opposition, but he's actually getting a bit more involved not than he's been in the past (it was practically like playing with 10 men). Should be a given for a midfielder, but we know for McTom, it wasn't the case.
I wouldn't say he's great but he's doing a very basic job to a passable level, and that's progress.
So dangerous in front of goal though, we joke about it but I do wonder if he should be a striking bench option
Would teams like City, Bayern, Liverpool, Napoli, Barca sign Scott McTominay to play up front?
Not even West Ham were willing to up their bid for him and he's literally the ideal player for Moyes.
II don't understand how we're ever expected to get close to a PL title when we persist with so many limited players in the squad. We go around in circles arguing whether players like Lingard, McTominay, Martial etc are good enough, when top teams would simply get rid without hesitation. Hell, we were even guilty of it a decade ago with the likes of Anderson and Cleverley.
About time we decide on what our ambitions are as a club. Either we're serious about wanting to be the best, or we're happy plodding along with mediocre players and competing for the Europa league
Not even West Ham were willing to up their bid for him and he's literally the ideal player for Moyes.
II don't understand how we're ever expected to get close to a PL title when we persist with so many limited players in the squad. We go around in circles arguing whether players like Lingard, McTominay, Martial etc are good enough, when top teams would simply get rid without hesitation. Hell, we were even guilty of it a decade ago with the likes of Anderson and Cleverley.
About time we decide on what our ambitions are as a club. Either we're serious about wanting to be the best, or we're happy plodding along with mediocre players and competing for the Europa league
Would much rather if he was in the middle scoring headers.
As for him at United, im more than happy if he continues his goalscoring exploits. Its just that hes then in the same situation as Casemiro. The team needs someone who enjoys playing deep and enjoys defending. Someone we can actually rely on to do DM things. We have an overabundance of players who play in midfield but they want to get forward to support the attack and score goals. So if we sign a great actual DM who wants to play DM and we keep McTom to come off the bench and try to score a goal then great. I'd have more faith in him doing that than Martial or our current bench players.
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Why are you calling him a striker?
If Antony or Casemiro scored against Georgia there would be some on here creaming their pants over it.
Or you can surmise from the above stats that the moment we went up against a tough team this flaw of his is still as severe as ever and this perceived improvement came against the worst teams in the league i.e oppositions we are suppose to dominate and our midfielders to make a lot of touches/passes.
If he continues to bang it in, great, feck knows we need it given how dire our forwards are at the moment, but we've also had 5, 6 years of watching him to know that his skillset as a footballer is wholly unsuited as a starting midfielder for a team with serious silverware ambitions, especially as a DM.
Not really. You can ignore the games against strong teams and still see an improvement. 25% more touches/passes per game in last two games against weak teams vs first two games against weak teams.
EDIT: 25% probably an underestimate if anything. What can I say? I’m shit at maths.
He's had these kind of stats before, in 20/21 he averaged about 55 passes per match with a completion rate of 87%, in 21/22 it dropped to 47 before a career low of 32 last season. Point is, he's doing nothing we haven't seen before, back when we were moaning about McFred every week, and the recent improvement from the diabolical performance last season, while welcomed, isn't necessary indicative of a changed player, but more of a player who rediscover his best form through a combination of consistent minutes and confidence boosting goals. And the best Scott McTominay has to offer still falls short of the standard required for a Manchester United midfielder.
Exactly. OK as a squad player if he was willing to play that role. But nowhere near the level of a regular starter.
I don’t disagree with any of that. I was just pointing out that his performances have improved over the course of this season. Which you initially seemed to want to disagree with. Glad we’re on the same page now.
Can’t stop won’t stop scoring
Good luck to the boy. Haters gonna hate - Taylor Swift said that and she's a Utd fan through and through. Scott is having a blinding season for Scotland why be down on it. Its win win for UTD, he's either flying with confidence or if we decide to sell - his value is on the up!
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Don't know anymore. I only saw one in a highlight and it was a fine corner that led to Scotland almost scoring a goal. But maybe Scotland have other players also capable of scoring headers.
Any other player overtaking Haaland and Mbappe and it would be praised.
Because it’s McTominay it’s downplayed.
Absolutely bizarre.
Before Eriksen went off against Luton, I thought he was his usual invisible self. There was even a moment where Maguire went ballistic at him for his positioning. However, after Erkisen left and he was moved deeper to accommodate Mount's introduction, I thought he impressed. There were numerous moments where he showed nice composure in some tight situations to keep possession, and he shielded the defence well.
I'm assuming he's not playing deep for Scotland, though? His impressive from for them is due to playing further upfield?
I'm assuming he's not playing deep for Scotland, though? His impressive from for them is due to playing further upfield?
Yeah. He plays more of an attacking midfield/box-to-box role.