Scott McTominay | Napoli | recovering after successful cardiac ablation
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Amazing what a proper espresso and pizza does for a lad. He's killing it in Italy.
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Going to be hilarious if Napoli wins Serie A with McT player of the year and Inter win the CL. Some peoples heads will explode with trying to rationalize him still being shit.
It's very easy really. Same way it's perfectly reasonable to think that Lukaku/Darmian/Mkhi/Smalling/Sanchez are/were shit despite them all doing very well in Serie A.
I think Smalling is the only one of those that didn't win the thing.
It's very easy really. Same way it's perfectly reasonable to think that Lukaku/Darmian/Mkhi/Smalling/Sanchez are/were shit despite them all doing very well in Serie A.
I think Smalling is the only one of those that didn't win the thing.
Are there still Utd fans who think Smalling was shit?
Pretty strange given he was the best defender of the post Fergie years up until Varane was brought in. Yes, he had flaws, but Utd had some exceptional defensive records in the years he was a cornerstone, far better than in recent times with more respected names. I think he was another case of a flaw(weak on the ball) being seen as everything and qualities outside of that being ignored. Did very well for Roma as well until his body let him down, winning the trophy Utd are going for tonight with Smalling one of their best players in that run. Actually just checked and it was the Conference League.
None of those names were shit, Darmian was the weakest, Sanchez the biggest let down.
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Of course "shit" is an oversimplification - just using the word you used in order to respond to the point. Yeah, Smalling was of course the best of those players for us by far, but he was a limited player and someone we were probably right to move on when we did, same as McTominay.
Point is that doing well in Serie A just doesn't really prove much. Just between us and Chelsea we can probably put out an XI of recent castoffs who went on to look like world beaters in Italy.
We get beat, and are now in 17th.
He’s just won player of the month for April, and I’d put money on him scoring tonight and putting Napoli top of the league.
This is so depressing.
He’s just won player of the month for April, and I’d put money on him scoring tonight and putting Napoli top of the league.
This is so depressing.
It's not that depressing. We've seen McTominay at United. Not good enough. No need to lose sleep over it.
Good assist that.
Perfectly weighted assist that !
Pretty much this. I'm glad he's doing well at Napoli and found his niche but fitting him in at United was never likely to work. He's a decent box crashing midfielder but we didn't even use him that way for most of his United career, and even in that role, he doesn't really fit in with the setup that we have.
We probably should've got a bit more money for him if we sold at the right time rather than when he had a year left on his contract but that's the only regret we should have as a club when it comes to McTominay.
Not depressing. I am happy for him. Happy that he showed all those who thought he wasn't good enough that he is a very usefull player. People should have listened to us who didn't wanted him gone.
He might end up winning Seria A and being one of best players in the league. That tells something.
Mct gave 100% but wasn't good enough to be a starter. We also need to generate money, so he was sold.
High time for some people to move on.
It’s pretty straight forward really.
He was played in a more defensive role and positionally he isn’t great in that role and he went missing in games.
Napoli and Scotland play him as a more attacking threat and he regularly contributes but he isn’t replacing Bruno.
It’s easy to say he should have stayed but he’d have struggled to be a starter, especially in this formation as he’d only be one of the more advanced players.
He was played in a more defensive role and positionally he isn’t great in that role and he went missing in games.
Napoli and Scotland play him as a more attacking threat and he regularly contributes but he isn’t replacing Bruno.
It’s easy to say he should have stayed but he’d have struggled to be a starter, especially in this formation as he’d only be one of the more advanced players.
If we played him as a striker over Højlund I have no doubt whatsoever that he would have scored 3x the goals in the league.
I loved him, when he was in United. Big mistake to sell him.
Another assist.
What an assist. When did he have that in his locker.
He'd have been a useful player for you to have had around with his tendency to notch important goals, but he's essentially limited. He isn't creative enough to be a genuine '10'. Good at sneaking into the box, but not really a great contributor to the overall pattern of play. I always think of him as a lesser David Platt.
Very few of your difficulties would've been solved by keeping him around,.
Very few of your difficulties would've been solved by keeping him around,.
No one is good enough at United.. It's a United problem..
When does Ballon D'Or voting close?
There is a bit of that too. Though sometimes the quality of the player is an issue.
Not sure but him and Antony are going to run each other close.
Happy he's doing well.
Mct is on fire. Is he going to win the title and serie A player of season or is that done already???
About to win a title this season. What a move it’s been for him.
Good luck to him.
We'd be better off if he stayed, probably midtable and used like he was last season. He's getting more minutes and had a good crack at United so it was time for a change rather than staying as some rescue act and hopefully wins Serie A. The club have failed to improve the squad at huge cost.
We'd be better off if he stayed, probably midtable and used like he was last season. He's getting more minutes and had a good crack at United so it was time for a change rather than staying as some rescue act and hopefully wins Serie A. The club have failed to improve the squad at huge cost.
If they win the league, he has to get player of the season
Oh big goal they've conceded. Could there be a playoff now?
Still a point clear
Still top by a point. Got two easy (on paper/form) games left
For those crying about us selling him.
Where exactly do you think we'd be right now if he'd have stayed? Best case scenario we'd be 13th instead of 16th. And he still wouldn't be good enough for a top 4 side, or a title winner.
Where exactly do you think we'd be right now if he'd have stayed? Best case scenario we'd be 13th instead of 16th. And he still wouldn't be good enough for a top 4 side, or a title winner.
Bingo. Ultimately he wasn’t good enough. And his departure was good for both parties.
Still a very tight league. Inter could still take it. Exciting it’s to the last minute
Without a shadow of a doubt. He would have been a way better option than Hojlund as a centre forward or even as a "false 9".
I mean you can trace his goals alone directly to 12 points last season, so let's just say for the sake of the question we'd be on 51 points, with six to play for. To put it another way, we'd be in the top half with an outside shot at Europe instead of being probably the worst team returning to the division next season. And I still think we'd have cries of "we'd be a better team without him" and "he'll never help us make top 4." Guess what? We did that experiment - turns out we were wrong. It happens.
We kept putting "better" players in front of McTominay and he kept playing well enough to keep them out of the team. The "better" player we got when we finally sold McTominay had to be really good. A lot better than we thought he'd need to be, because it turns out McTominay was actually quite important. Hopefully Ugarte kicks on next season because right now it was just a bad swap we made a loss on.
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The thing is, if Scott was playing in the Ugarte position he wouldn't have been scoring any goals. He'd have to be playing as one of our #10s, not one of the two deeper holders. And this was the nub of it - he wasn't good enough as a central midfielder to start for us in the Prem - we were wide open, he'd go missing in huge games but then mitigate it with scoring a few late goals generally when things were positionally stretched and the bucket was being thrown.
He still averages 3 goals a season for us. 3. People talk about him like he was a goal machine but he only scored more than 5 goals in a season twice. In the three seasons that he and Case were in the squad, Case scored one goal more.