I'm quite certain we weren't planning to get anywhere near their mental asking price.
Scott McTominay | Transfer discussion not performance discussion
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
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I know, and you are right - but if we falter and our season pans as a result of a thin squad we would rue it, and I don’t think Erik would allow that. He’s a man on a mission.
I'm happy to keep him, he is John O'Shea/Phil Neville level which is needed in a functioning squad. He was keeping Casemiro out of the time during our initial good run. You simply can't have a 26 man squad full of world class players who will all be happy even with bench role.
Let's pray people in charge are a bit smarter.He’s one of our best players and we should only consider selling if it’s over 60 million.
just in case they’re reading
just in case they’re reading
Newcastle are filthy rich and he's a useful homegrown player with his best years ahead of him. Somewhere between £30-40m should absolutely be doable.
Bruno Gameires and 60 mil and we have a deal
If we push Eriksen out of the first team I think he'd pick up more minutes than McTominay has managed. He'd be a decent option to have off the bench if we're struggling to break teams down but I fully expect van de Beek to be on his way out as well, so I could see him getting minutes in a couple of different roles next season. Eriksen has done well for us but ideally you want someone a bit more robust if they're going to be starting 40-50 games a season.
Sorry, the McTominay stuff was just my general thoughts, not necessarily in response to your post.
We'll never sell him then in that case. As a result we won't improve on that position, and if Casemiro gets injured who are we relying on? McTom.
I don't think that's a good idea personally. With some decent scouting we should be able to improve upon him massively for £30m.
Just look as how cheap Enzo and Caicedo were for example. The players are out there in abundance, we just need to find them, and sell subpar place holders such as McTom to fund the moves if needs be.
That won't be because of Scott McTominay. We'd be fecked anyway if he starts having to play a significant number of minutes.
IQ challenge now?
United won't sell him on the cheap. Zero need. Go to business school.
Feels like a summertime move, unless Ten Hag has been told we have very little money and talked himself into Tielemans. Even then, makes more sense to just sell McTominay in the summer and bring in a DM on a free (Lemar, Shkiri) or a young one to backup from and learn from Casemiro. Ajax bought Edson Alvarez for 15M and surely some young south American DM would be happy to be Casemiro's protege and could be signed from there for that much.
Personally wouldn’t lose any sleepless nights over it. If Newcastle came back with a reasonable offer that would help towards another DM then that would work, but I think Sir Alex might be a bit miffed about it so we should probably just hang on to him.
We'll struggle to move him in the summer. I think this opportunity has purely popped up because of Bruno Guimaeraes' injury
He's a squad player the same as Anderson, Cleverley, Butt or Fletcher.
Squads need squad players and not 25 first team players. If there's a better player to cover for Casemiro or Eriksen for less money then ok.
But every transfer is a risk and atleast you know what you get with McTominay and I bet he's not paid all that much for it.
Hard to get a homegrown player like him who’ll be satisfied with playing here and there. We need local players too.
Only sell if big money comes in that we need for important upgrades. Not if it’s a sideways move.
Only sell if big money comes in that we need for important upgrades. Not if it’s a sideways move.
Would people here entertain this?
Mctominay - £30m Out
Tielemens - £20m IN
Depay - £10m IN
Mctominay - £30m Out
Tielemens - £20m IN
Depay - £10m IN
The deals are out there but do the deal first and then you can sell.
Do you really trust the club right now to sell McTominay and find a better player in this January window?
I'd miss him when he goes.
Gotten used to him and Fred but the latter has improved himself massively.
Gotten used to him and Fred but the latter has improved himself massively.
Neither of those two is worth anything close to that with their contracts up in the summer.
Sure, I agree with all of that, and don't trust the club in the transfer market all that much no.
I just don't value his overall contribution at 60m is all. 30m for me and let's roll the dice on a replacement.
Disagree.
I also don’t think he would be replaced in this window.
Don’t forget Donny is out too, and regardless what you think of them they are players who could otherwise deputise if needed.
There is a middle ground between cheap and £60m.
Still think he's better than Fred.
Who are you realistically going to get to replace him?
We are one injury away from having a very understaffed midfield. It would be beyond stupid to sell him now.
The only way he goes is if he kicks up a massive stink.
We are one injury away from having a very understaffed midfield. It would be beyond stupid to sell him now.
The only way he goes is if he kicks up a massive stink.
No. Tielemans doesn't suit a ten Hag team and we've just got Weghorst on loan so there's no need to sign Depay on a long-term contract. I'd ship McTominay out.
Neither is Mctominay, you want to play or not?
He would weaken them, it would be a smart move by us.
Is Tielemans better than Eriksen as a CM or McTominay as a CDM to cover for Casemiro?
I say no and it's the wrong profile to go for. A Bellingham/De Jong/Enzo could be signed for CM to play ahead of Eriksen or rotate with him.
Casemiro needs CDM cover. We don't really need someone to start ahead of him. If we did it wouldn't be Tielemans. I think our squad is at the point where only very good players should replace our weakest starting 11 players.
Currently that's probably Martial and De Gea. It's getting tougher to improve the starting 11.
His Utd career has peaked, he’ll never be a guaranteed starter again, I expect he will be seeking a move in the summer. He’s only started 6 league games and if Casemiro had of been ready for start of season he wouldn’t have even started that many.
He’s 4th choice out of 4and even as a squad player pretty redundant but it’s pointless selling him unless it’s for a good price and a deal for a replacement is lined up and ready to go, which given our transfer activity would be unlikely.
He’s 4th choice out of 4and even as a squad player pretty redundant but it’s pointless selling him unless it’s for a good price and a deal for a replacement is lined up and ready to go, which given our transfer activity would be unlikely.
As long as we can find a replacement.
Is he heck as like. I don’t dislike Scott, but Fred is a superior player in nearly every regard.
McTominay is easily worth 30m and no to your suggestion.
He has so far? For about 5 years.
I'm personally not a roll the dice kinda guy. Would rather we went with a player we know for sure would be better than McTominay in our starting lineup or squad. Opinions can differ and that's cool.
I'd rather price him out of a move until we have a better player lined up and don't trust the club to react in the market.
What type of punishment do you get for Drunk Driving in the UK? Could they fear for being without Joelinton for a while this spring?
He is a decent squad player imo. Might be harder to replace than we think. Like others have said can't see Ten Hag letting him go at this point.
Maybe sit him down and say if you still want to leave in the summer then part ways
Maybe sit him down and say if you still want to leave in the summer then part ways
Casemiro and Eriksen is our best midfield in a 4231. You sell McTominay....
Who do you buy in the January window that is a better CDM than Casemiro or a good backup?
Who do you sign better in CM than Eriksen? We need a top drawer CM that can do it all home and away, and not an Eriksen cover man.
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