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Sean Dyche
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If you engage in childish retorts expect to be labelled a child.
Is that you Sean? Or is is Tony?
Ask a grown up to help you, I’m sure you can do better than that.
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It can’t be undermined just how good a job he continues to do at Burnley.
It takes a right sad cnut to get up in arms just because they play with aggro and bluster.
It takes a right sad cnut to get up in arms just because they play with aggro and bluster.
He's turned it round this season after an awful start. Good manager.
I don't keep track of them when they don't play top 6 opposition but I was surprised to see they only have 30 points despite the poor start.
Looks like his shithouse tactics aren't that effective. Who'd have thought
I don't think Dyche is getting anywhere near the credit he deserves, if you think about his lack of spending in the last 2 transfer windows. Currently sitting on the edge of the top 6. Dyche is Burnley's version of SAF frankly speaking, he's transformed the whole club top to bottom and everything runs through him. It'd be an unpopular choice but I'd be happy to see us go after him over someone like Allegri, he's definitely earned the promotion and I could see a club like Tottenham being interested in him once Pochettino leaves.
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Also just found this from April, Jason Cundy bang on the money about Solskjaer, and even maybe Dyche
I'd stomach it six seasons ago. Right now is a tough one. Then again, we're in need of a hail Mary now.
Nope!
Plenty of managers would do better than Ole, it doesnt mean we should panic and employ any one of them.
I agree we need a miracle job at the moment, but Dyche has been doing that at Burnley for the last several seasons. Dyche knows how to properly coach a team and get the most out of his players, his style of play and management tactics has a Simeone feel about it, it's not as bad as people make out. He gets a lot of respect and admiration from his players whilst maintaining that fear factor, again something that's been lacking in our dressing room since Ferguson. He also knows when to cut the tie on a player that's not up to standard anymore. It'd be a risk but again like I said, I'd rather have him than Allegri.
He's clearly a very good manager, but I think he should stay at Burnley. His style of football would not win many fans here, and I think it'd most likely be David Moyes all over again, who really should've just stayed at Everton where he had enough credit to ride out the tough times.
That would be the natural comparison, but he has a lot more about him than Moyes in terms of his personality and character. He's more likeable, demands a lot more respect and looks like he knows how to give the players a bollocking when needed, and talks the talk a lot better in general anyway..
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Also just found this from April, Jason Cundy bang on the money about Solskjaer, and even maybe Dyche
Fair enough, who would you have as manager if Solskjaer was sacked?
Key part is "he would get more out of the current squad "
Absolutely, anyone would get that now. We are not a bottom table side.
Absolutely, anyone would get that now. We are not a bottom table side.
New manager won’t solve anything with the current hierarchy. Glazers and Woodward are a nightmare to work with, restricting managers in their every move. Dyche wouldn’t come here and transform the club top to bottom, he’d run in to the same problems as LVG and Jose and find working under this leadership is a lost cause and would end up leaving after 2 years. I’m not defending Ole as a manager but we need to understand where the real rot is. Until they’re gone we will continue to cycle managers, and any manager with a functioning brain should stay far, far away from this club.
Right now Allegri on a short term contract. His football is boring too but he plays transitions on the floor rather than in the air like Dyche, we won't have to buy a load of cloggers for him. He's Italian too so will expect to be sacked after a couple of seasons anyway.
I don´t give a shit, my take is to give it to Wenger until we get someone in here for the long term.
He will at least work well with youth and get us playing in no time.
He will at least work well with youth and get us playing in no time.
Can he even speak English though?
I think there'd be another culture clash similar to LVG and Mourinho, but I agree that he'd be a big improvement on Solskjaer so the choice is fair enough. To add Dyche knows how to play transitions on the floor, Burnley are capable of attractive football. That in the air stuff is only deployed against teams that want to play tidy, neat football like City, and it annoyed the shit of them so job's a good'en.Dear lord. Sean Dyche is a good manager but he's not an elite one. He's the level above Pulis/Allardyce. Will do well and has a structured style of playing but he doesn't play expansively regularly and would struggle at a club at the top level to transfer his type of football onto them. Would be a similar situation to Moyes. They play a mix of direct/defensive type play that is okay for Burnley/Everton but I don't think it transfers to clubs that are a level above them.
Plus are people forgetting that last year they were seriously battling relegation? He's good but I haven't seen anything from him that says he can step up to the top level.
Plus are people forgetting that last year they were seriously battling relegation? He's good but I haven't seen anything from him that says he can step up to the top level.
They were battling relegation because the qualifying rounds to the Europa League fecked them up badly at the start of the season similar to Wolves this year, and put them on a tricky climb up from the start. They were also missing their two best players at the time all season, Robbie Brady and Defour, due to injury. Staying up last year was testament to Dyche's skill rather than the other way round. He's not the fashionable choice and you can laugh all you want at the suggestion, but he's one of the best managers in the league at the moment.
They got knocked out of the EL after they had played 3 league games. Their worst run last season was from the 20th October - 26th December where they lost 9 league games, won 1 and drew 1. Granted there were some tough fixtures but that isn't the sign of an elite manager. The end of the season was also particularly worrying - 6 losses, 3 wins, 1 draw in the last 10 games. Fair play they had a good period December - Feb but he's too streaky as a manager. The season they finished in 7th they managed to go from the 16th December until 3rd of March without winning a league game at all - 5 losses and 6 draws.
They finished 7th while having a negative goal difference...it was a fantastic achievement to get 7th with Burnley but if I was an owner of any club that should and could have been challenging them for it that season I'd be fuming as that's shocking.
Wenger as caretaker would be the best approach.
Everton finished 8th with -14 GD that season so relatively speaking -3 GD at 7th isn't too bad. Bad runs occur when you have a squad like Burnley's, he's getting pretty much 110% out of them all so it's to be expected. You have to step back, separate the manager from the players and realise that he makes them all twice as good as they aren when playing as a team. It's a rare attribute that only great managers have, Chris Wilder at Sheffield United is another at the moment. When he's given the opportunity to step up to club like Tottenham, I'll put my money on him being a success.
You're saying that like it's a good thing. It isn't. It's shit. I hope you're right as it's nice to see managers do well but I just don't see it with him in terms of a top club. He's great for the level he's at.
No I'm speaking in relative terms that season compared to the rest of the league, they had the 7th best GD as well so it's not as bad as you make out.
He'd be 70 by the time he starts, out of management for a year and a half as well... He was called a specialist in failure on here for a reason for his last few years at Arsenal.
That was Mourinho
. Far from ideal but we have limited options available.
The sooner this worm eating twat and his disgraceful rugby team feck off to the Championship the better. They make Pulis' Stoke look like saints.
An absoulte blight on our league. The sooner his shithouse side gets relegated the better.
Funny how he stands there thinking about a sub, waving his hands back and forth making it out to be a highly tactical decision and not just get an extra man in the box for yet another long ball.
Funny how he stands there thinking about a sub, waving his hands back and forth making it out to be a highly tactical decision and not just get an extra man in the box for yet another long ball.
Waste of a PL place
I do wonder if they may try and change their style like Bolton and Stoke did (Burnley that is not Dyche obviously)
I do wonder if they may try and change their style like Bolton and Stoke did (Burnley that is not Dyche obviously)
No they won't.As long as they can beat what they need to beat to stay in the PL. He'll keep his job too.
He's a fecking legend!
Thing is Burnley aren't even that tough to beat, they seem to shithouse fluke results at Stamford Bridge and Old Trafford but every other fixture Vs the big six including all of them at Turf Moor they get convincingly beaten.
Pulis and Big Sam teams I use to have high hopes they may nick points of rivals in home games, I have never had the same optimism with Dyche and Burnley.
Pulis and Big Sam teams I use to have high hopes they may nick points of rivals in home games, I have never had the same optimism with Dyche and Burnley.
Hahaha he’s football style is very archaic and physical, indeed. I was joking with a friend that even his 3 strikers he had on the books last season were basically a replica of each other (Vokes, Barnes & Wood) and he’s playing 2 of them together this season.
I don’t really begrudge them their EPL spot or their style. Playing teams of different or varying styles adds to the appeal of the league. Or maybe it doesn’t. I don’t really know.
Guess he has to do what’s best to survive but there’s a few managers out there who could probably try and instill a style more pleasing on the eye, whilst remaining in the EPL. Doubt their owners would be brave enough to try it though because it could go horribly wrong, and they’d need to invest a bit as their players also seem ill-suited to a different style. I don’t recall much, but what’s their net spent been like for the past 3-5 years?
I don’t really begrudge them their EPL spot or their style. Playing teams of different or varying styles adds to the appeal of the league. Or maybe it doesn’t. I don’t really know.
Guess he has to do what’s best to survive but there’s a few managers out there who could probably try and instill a style more pleasing on the eye, whilst remaining in the EPL. Doubt their owners would be brave enough to try it though because it could go horribly wrong, and they’d need to invest a bit as their players also seem ill-suited to a different style. I don’t recall much, but what’s their net spent been like for the past 3-5 years?