Because all our transfers happen in slow motion now.
Sean Longstaff
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preseason games are difficult to gauge but if Bailly's injury may have added a bit more urgency possibly even more money to the Maguire deal. Then McT's performance may have done the opposite to any Longstaff deal
But even if McTominay maintains his performance and continue to improve, we only have 2 starters in midfield.
Andreas indeed does look better than in the past, so at this rate he might be a squad option - but definitely not more than that, we need reinforcements.
Agree. If Mac gets injured or suspended we will be in trouble. Garner is still too young to be regular. Seeing how well Alex has done I think a midfielder (either DM or box to box with good defensive qualities) is more important than Maguire
If he doesn't come in this transfer window, the price will be much higher in the next one.
That depends entirely on which league Newcastle will be playing in for 2020/21.
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He looks technically good. But I think the more important aspect to his game is his mobility. Ole clearly has a new gameplan for this season, and Longstaff seems to typify it.
Apparently, he put in the most distance in all of his games for Newcastle.
A midfield duo of McTomminay and Lonstaff, with James/Lingard on the wings, AWB/Shaw at fullback and Rashford up front would be impossible to outwork.
Apparently, he put in the most distance in all of his games for Newcastle.
A midfield duo of McTomminay and Lonstaff, with James/Lingard on the wings, AWB/Shaw at fullback and Rashford up front would be impossible to outwork.
Technically very good and a very mobile player. But according to people that know him well, his fitness/endurance levels are described as being 'ridiculously' high.
It'd be interesting if he could measure up against James' bleep test record.
Carrick was my favourite player and this guy reminds me of him so well. By the looks of youtube clips, he'd walk into our side. Silky touches and passes, great connection with the foot, tall yet mobile.
Why 'but'?
I was thinking that. Seems like a positive, not a ‘but’.
Of all signings, I wish for this one the most. Fits my criteria of a signing and view of United's style down to a tee.
same. Still hope it happens!
IMO we should aim higher. I'm not sure Longstaff is even better than McTominay.
If we are going to play Pogba in a midfield of 2, then we need a energetic DM, Gueye for 30m could be a better alternative.
If we are going to play Pogba in a midfield of 2, then we need a energetic DM, Gueye for 30m could be a better alternative.
Was multitasking at the time so ignore the 'but'
The point was, that for me he's a player who is a ball player as a #6 who is mobile and described by people who know him as having 'ridiculous' energy levels. His energy/endurance along with his skilset would be very good for us going forward.
What excites me is that he's shown in his appearances to date that he could develop into a very good #6 who could spring quick counters with his composure and passing and make better use of our pacey players from a deeper role. And it seems people within United know it too.
I think after a CB, a player with Longstaff's profile/skillset would be the most important signing.
Either buy him this season or return next season when Newcastle get relegated.
Longstaff just played and apparently put in a MOM performance. Yes it's pre-season and it was poor opposition and Newcastle lost. At least he is no longer injured. Which was my main concern.
This should have been the first transfer. If we had gone before Newcastle sold Perez, longstaff would be playing for us now.
He will surely cost more next season.
Perez had a release clause.
I don’t think that’s at all relevant to the point he’s making.
Far more preferable to rice who is overrated af. Think we will get him for sure but it's just haggling with the toad master aka Ashley now.
So what point is he making?
Would be funny if he also gets the shits in the next few days.
How was his goal today?
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Another screamer from Longstaff. Hardly surprising at this stage. He's got a cannon.
I still think we'll try again for him. Matic and Fred look hopeless. We can really go through a season with Pogba and Scott as our only proper CMs.
I still think we'll try again for him. Matic and Fred look hopeless. We can really go through a season with Pogba and Scott as our only proper CMs.
this has gone quiet it seems. Damn shame.
Doubt we will try for him now, with supposedly Bruno & Dybala coming and pushing hard for Maguire. We’re hardly signing 4 players in the next 10days
It probably makes sense though depending on what Newcastle are looking for. Signing a player after a handful of PL games only really makes sense if you think you're getting a bargain. If it looks like Newcastle are demanding too much, you may as well wait another year. How much would his value realistically increase in that time?
Maybe we can get him in Jan
Yep no rush on this one, if anything him staying at Newcastle is the best thing for him
thing is, if he kicks on then we'll have more competition for his signature too. Price won't exactly go down either.
Sorry, been out of this thread for a few days but wanted to acknowledge your response as is so detailed.
Again, I think a lot of that is conjecture. Ed Woodward has really become this omni being on here, and people think he’s at the heart of every aspect of the club. I think you’re giving him too much credit if you think that’s the case.
He’s an employee of the owners. He works for Manchester United. Of course he wants Manchester United to be successful football team. Even if his own job is to make the club money, so what? We also hire someone to win the club football matches. That person is not Ed Woodward. They can both do their respective jobs.
With regards to this whole transfer malarkey, I think you, and others, should ask yourselves a very simple question:
Do you think if the Glazer family gave Woodward/Ole a billion pounds to spend every summer that we would be in protracted negotiations about a £50m player?
The long negotiations, the sometimes refusing to pay what is being asked is the reality of transfers being done in the reality. We work within a budget. It’s simple economics. If Ole gave Ed a list of players and there was an unlimited budget even I could look like the best negotiator in the world.
As for the fact that we have been in a position where we have to entice players with money, that again is not down to Woodward, or any executive at any club. If we are talking football, Ole should be the one selling a prospective signing on his vision for the football team. Ed should be trying to get the deal done.
Lastly, I think we have descended to conspiracy theory, and anyone would think Ed is trying to sabotage the football team. I don’t agree with that. I suspect football managers always have a long list of wants, and the board have to often deliver bad news as they have to focus on the bottom line. The reality is, someone always has to focus on the bottom line. Just like parents and children in a household. If money was no problem, they would give their kids more, within reason of course. Fans hate the fact that anything but football is considered by a football club, and money is a dirty word because to us, 442 will always be the bottom line. However, as long as transfers cost money, there will be disappointment in the market. The fabled Madrid who ‘always get their man’ have failed to often enough, Barca the same. It’s the game. Contrary to perception, I think Ed gets far more wins than losses in the transfer market. The balance shifts when those players are then handed to the manager, who fails to get the most out of a player he requested.
Well be back for him next season.
We need a CM right now. Not next season. We have only Pogba and Scott for the 2 deep lying CM positions. Matic and Fred nowhere near good enough.
Bruno doesn't solve this problem.
Bruno doesn't solve this problem.
We need him.
Matic seems done.
Matic seems done.
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