Sparky Rhiwabon
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He’s probably still available at this price nowLooks like an absolute unit. How the hell did we miss him for 45m ?
Really like him.
He’s probably still available at this price nowLooks like an absolute unit. How the hell did we miss him for 45m ?
Really like him.
In fairness many were rating him on his Frankfurt form. 15 goals in Bundesliga in 18/19 so pretty much 1 in 2 and 5 more in the europa league (think he was injured for the Chelsea games). West Ham signed him at 25 aswell so a good age for a forward. Joenlithon at Hoffenheim didn't come close to that sort of ratio. Us paying 22m for Wesley was also worse than Haller imo.I've posted this many times but you should never judge a signing on their early form for their new club. Often they're playing on adrenaline after moving to a new country, getting a massive pay rise and the attention they get from media and fans. You see it every season when new signings bring their best form straight after signing before tapering off significantly.
Yet further evidence that people on this forum watch a You Tube video and then pretend they know all about them and how United are idiots for not signing them. Goes right along the outcry when we didn’t sign Serge Aurier and the constant demands for us to sign Meunièr.What happened to this dude?
Do the posters who wanted him at Man United still feel the same?
Which one - the Feyenoord fan, the Benfica fan, or the Rostock fan?Ah, the classic Caf “I only watch the PL” posters coming in here to have a field day
But he has been a failure and one of the worst signings of the season considering the amount West Ham spent on him and how much he's actually contributed, and there's a good chance they'll be flogging him off for a loss before the start of next seasonAh, the classic Caf “I only watch the PL” posters coming in here to have a field day about someone who started the season on fire, went a bit quiet and then had an injury and whose main competition in the team was one of the form players in the league. In his first season in a new league, of course this now means he’s a dud, a failure, and one of the worst signings of the season.
Never change. West Ham should have signed David Nugent. Yeah he’s about 55 years old, but he’s not some fancy foreigner; he gets English football. He gets the PL. He gets us.
I cannot remember a single one.He's been tragic, and yet I saw the other day that he's scored 7 goals... In fact he'd have finished West Ham's top scorer if not for Antonio going on this mad post-lockdown run.
So erm, money well spent?!
It's just a bit of "I told you so" at the people who freak out massively (yourself included?) when we don't sign these players that the CafScouts have watched a YouTube video of and then spend a few days berating Ed Woodward, Solskjaer etc for their idiocy.Ah, the classic Caf “I only watch the PL” posters coming in here to have a field day about someone who started the season on fire, went a bit quiet and then had an injury and whose main competition in the team was one of the form players in the league. In his first season in a new league, of course this now means he’s a dud, a failure, and one of the worst signings of the season.
Indeed. I could remember just one goal because i had him in my FPL team that particular weekI cannot remember a single one.
Tevez and Mascherano turning up there together on deadline day was absolutely shocking. Been more than a decade thoughWest Ham in general seem to have a pretty awful transfer strategy.
A lot of top class players would have been "hipster players" before moving to a more successful club. Aguero at Atletico, Kompany at Anderlecht/Hamburg, Hazard at Lille, De Bruyne at Wolfsburg, Griezmann at Sociedad, Fabinho at Monaco... etc etc etcWho was the other striker who played with him at Frankfurt? Was it Jovic? He was quite a flop as well at Real Madrid. Where is he playing now anyway? I'm glad we don't splash money on these hipster strikers or players
England will win the next World Cup with Bruno in the squad. Mark my words.Ah, the classic Caf “I only watch the PL” posters coming in here to have a field day about someone who started the season on fire, went a bit quiet and then had an injury and whose main competition in the team was one of the form players in the league. In his first season in a new league, of course this now means he’s a dud, a failure, and one of the worst signings of the season.
Never change. West Ham should have signed David Nugent. Yeah he’s about 55 years old, but he’s not some fancy foreigner; he gets English football. He gets the PL. He gets us.
I still remember it well. Back in the simpler times before social media. I remember watching SSN and West Ham announcing them both. It was crazy.Tevez and Mascherano turning up there together on deadline day was absolutely shocking. Been more than a decade though
All them players you listed are the opposite of what the poster meant. The players you mentioned were all tipped to make it to the absolute top of the game from relatively young ages.A lot of top class players would have been "hipster players" before moving to a more successful club. Aguero at Atletico, Kompany at Anderlecht/Hamburg, Hazard at Lille, De Bruyne at Wolfsburg, Griezmann at Sociedad, Fabinho at Monaco... etc etc etc
No, I didn’t freak out that we didn’t sign him. I can see the value in him as a player based on the form he showed previously but I couldn’t care less that we didn’t sign him.It's just a bit of "I told you so" at the people who freak out massively (yourself included?) when we don't sign these players that the CafScouts have watched a YouTube video of and then spend a few days berating Ed Woodward, Solskjaer etc for their idiocy.
A healthy reminder that signings for whatever reason don't always work out at other clubs, not just ourselves, and our coaching/management/scouting aren't the absolute morons you'd think if you read the caf every August.
The only reason City get away with some of their dodgy signings is because if their first 60 million player doesn't train well, they'll just sign another one a week later.
They had a very potent front 3 of Haller, Jovic, & Ante Rebic. Jovic is at Madrid (transferred there last summer; has had myriad issues and Benzema's form limits his minutes). Rebic was at Milan on loan this past year, scored 11 goals from 25 appearances in Serie A. He was very effective; seems Milan are trying to sign him permanently now.Who was the other striker who played with him at Frankfurt? Was it Jovic? He was quite a flop as well at Real Madrid. Where is he playing now anyway? I'm glad we don't splash money on these hipster strikers or players
Tbh I had never heard of Joelinton before he transferred to England. So can't judge, but his number in Germany are pretty bad actually.Joellington and him for the worst signing of the season without a doubt.
Just shows how Bundesliga level is no where near the PL. At least defensive wise. I watch some games regularly and they are really entertaining I can understand how new fans fall in love with that league. Its all attack and no defence, a great spectacle but not good enough when facing solid opposition.
Haller, Joelinton and Luka Jovic where spectacular in the bundesliga and watch them now playing against team that actually defend and you dont attack 1 on 1 everytime.
Why did I get an alert that you quoted me? Not that I mind, I actually agree with your post, was just curious.Tbh I had never heard of Joelinton before he transferred to England. So can't judge, but his number in Germany are pretty bad actually.
Jovic and Haller got more widespreak reputation for smashing everyone in the Europa League rather than Bundesliga, I think.
But my post isn't claiming he's the nezt Suarez, it's simply asking why people are completely writing him off when there's a bit of a pattern when he's moved leagues. For what it's worth I think he's a good striker, not anywhere near elite level, but in the right setup would be a great asset to a mid-table team.He was decent in the Dutch league, but that says very little. Vincent Janssen was far better in the Dutch league. So was Van Wolfswinkel, Luuk de Jong, Bjorn Vlemmincxs.
Of course there's always the odd Luis Suarez or Ibrahimovic, but Hallër was good at Utrecht. That's usually a sign that you may be good enough for Feyenoord. Not the prem.
I may have worded it wrong a bit, I'm not saying that he has to be the new Suarez, I meant that he might be the next Vincent Janssen or Luuk de Jong who were even better than Haller in The Netherlands and failed completely in the premier league.But my post isn't claiming he's the nezt Suarez, it's simply asking why people are completely writing him off when there's a bit of a pattern when he's moved leagues. For what it's worth I think he's a good striker, not anywhere near elite level, but in the right setup would be a great asset to a mid-table team.
The fact that you're saying Joelinton and spectacular together really makes me doubt how much of the BL you actually watched. Joelinton scores 7 goals and is 'spectacular' in the BL while Haller scores 7 goals and is a 'failure' in the EPL. Yea sure.Joellington and him for the worst signing of the season without a doubt.
Just shows how Bundesliga level is no where near the PL. At least defensive wise. I watch some games regularly and they are really entertaining I can understand how new fans fall in love with that league. Its all attack and no defence, a great spectacle but not good enough when facing solid opposition.
Haller, Joelinton and Luka Jovic where spectacular in the bundesliga and watch them now playing against team that actually defend and you dont attack 1 on 1 everytime.
If someone looked at the analytics on this forum, some variation of 'how did we miss out on this guy" must be one the most common combination of words.Looks like an absolute unit. How the hell did we miss him for 45m ?
Really like him.
Youre right I take it back, I assumed Joelinton had better numbers in bundesliga because of the fee newcastle paid, it turns out he was also shit over there. As you said horrible horrible transfer for Newcastle. Wtf were they thinking.The fact that you're saying Joelinton and spectacular together really makes me doubt how much of the BL you actually watched. Joelinton scores 7 goals and is 'spectacular' in the BL while Haller scores 7 goals and is a 'failure' in the EPL. Yea sure.
Haller and Jovic were certainly great in the BL, but no one, and I repeat no one, in the BL ever considered Joelinton going for 40 MP. That was just a horrible horrible transfer by Newcastle for a player who had nothing more than decent season, he had a great spell of 2-3 games, which got him in the limelight last season, but hardly did anything else the rest of the season.
Yea man, I actually went back and saw the Transfer Tweets thread when this news broke and everyone was astonished by that figure No one is shocked that he hasn't been worth that fee, though he should be doing better than 2 goals in 38 games.Youre right I take it back, I assumed Joelinton had better numbers in bundesliga because of the fee newcastle paid, it turns out he was also shit over there. As you said horrible horrible transfer for Newcastle. Wtf were they thinking.
Let me take a wild guess. You're a Pochettino guy? Why would you say no? He's scoring for fun at the moment. Top Scorer in his league and also Top scorer in the Champions League.No thanks.
Swing and a miss!Let me take a wild guess. You're a Pochettino guy? Why would you say no? He's scoring for fun at the moment. Top Scorer in his league and also Top scorer in the Champions League.
Well he just broke Haaland's record. Fastest player to score 10 Champions League goals. He did it in 6 games. That's just crazy.Swing and a miss!
Because I don't think he's good enough. We saw him for two years at West Ham.