Rules say so . Its better for him to stay there now, the choice of loan and why he was left out of conference league needs to be questioned .Says who? Usually there's a fee for breaking these contracts but given the ownership that seems irrelevant.
Only question is if he's better there despite little game time or coming back and playing with the reserves. I'd suggest he's probably better staying there as it'll at least build character.
Pretty sure Ineos want Nice sold, the TV deal fecked the league up and its not lucrative enough for them.Seems like many are jumping to conclusions based on a very small sample size.
Kone will learn a lot from training week in week out with the first team, preparing for games, getting minutes off the bench in a competitive league and hopefully getting a run of starts. Many players have it easy in the youth system and find the transition to first team football very hard, it's often the first time they have not been picked for games and need to have the right mentality to force their way into the team. Amad has credited the "unsuccessful" loans he had to making a big difference in his approach and said he learned a lot, hopefully Kone can do the same.
On the other hand it is odd that he's been omitted from the European squad given he's been training with them prior to getting the loan move and it would appear it was all agreed upfront. It just shows the multi club model under INEOS is not working as smoothly as we would like. Ideally we can have 2-3 players at Lausanne and another 2-3 at Nice each season gaining valuable minutes. Time will tell!
It does but for whatever reason strange things happen on loan as we know.Normally if a player would improve a team and he was eligible to play for them it would make good sense for him to play.
Came on at 65 mins when they were 2-0 down with Lusanne scoring at 80 mins, final score 2-1. Nothing in the highlights regarding the goal so I'll assume he wasn't involved there.
Mixed bag. No pre-season and lacking match sharpness but looks lively with his movement and intention if inconsistent execution. Needs game time, hopefully he will get loads there.
Looks pretty good but his teammates are mediocre really. They are also lacking chemistry.
Came on at 65 mins when they were 2-0 down with Lusanne scoring at 80 mins, final score 2-1. Nothing in the highlights regarding the goal so I'll assume he wasn't involved there.
Mixed bag. No pre-season and lacking match sharpness but looks lively with his movement and intention if inconsistent execution. Needs game time, hopefully he will get loads there.
Better for him to be playing 20 minutes there with some starts thrown in instead of coming back and sitting in the reserves. Play time in senior football is the most important thing for a young player, including learning how to break into the first team if he isnt an automatic starter. This will be a good experience and the Swiss league isnt the worst out there
Important game for him.Starting today against Basel.
Why not letting the player develop / show his class first before making any judgement. Weird.Important game for him.
I think he has high potential but might just end up a solid player in one of the big 5 leagues.
Ramadan break?Was hooked at the half.
Looked dreadful in the 3 mins highlights on YouTube. I watched it twice just to check it was as bad as first thought.
The comments earlier in this thread about Sekou Kone being genuinely press resistant, need an * not against Basel
At 2pm?Ramadan break?
At 2pm?
Think the manager of laussane is under pressure, their form has been poor and he is going for experienced players . They are in relegation round. Ineos have poor record in every club they ahve owned so far. Nice are struggling , the only year they did okay was when they were in a trust as we played same competitions. Laussane havent pulled up any trees, managed to stay in top division, but might go down this year.terrible loan overall. For every loan key thing should be to get players in starting lineup, not which competition they are playing. Put them in farmers league, but to play and get 4 months of games every week. 10 minutes now and than is terrible loan.
I never understand why we don't try and send more players to the Dutch league(s).terrible loan overall. For every loan key thing should be to get players in starting lineup, not which competition they are playing. Put them in farmers league, but to play and get 4 months of games every week. 10 minutes now and than is terrible loan.
Our loans never seem te work out in a good fashion like the names above.
I never understand why we don't try and send more players to the Dutch league(s).
Touche, Carreras did well at Preston and then we fumbled by adding a 'cheap' buy option to the loan to Benfica.Alvaro Carreras' loans worked out well enough... though not to United's great benefit.
The Dutch league is a slightly higher standard than the Swiss league. If Kone isn't good enough yet to get plenty of minutes in the Swiss league at a club with the same owners, he wouldn't be getting more minutes at another club in the Eredivisie. He'd likely have to drop to the Dutch second tier. In which case I don't know why you just wouldn't send him to a club in League One in England instead.
His loan decision seems very strange. Would a loan to a Championship side or a League 1 side to actually get some playing time been better for him? He seems a very strange signing overall, similar to the lines of Bebe. Maybe someone saw raw potential in him somewhere.
He’s struggling to get games at a club in a weaker league with the same owner as us and had a month of training with them before even joining. How is he going to get actual playing time in the Championship? He wouldn’t even make matchday squads outside Sheffield Wednesday.His loan decision seems very strange. Would a loan to a Championship side or a League 1 side to actually get some playing time been better for him? He seems a very strange signing overall, similar to the lines of Bebe. Maybe someone saw raw potential in him somewhere.
He’s struggling to get games at a club in a weaker league with the same owner as us and had a month of training with them before even joining. How is he going to get actual playing time in the Championship? He wouldn’t even make matchday squads outside Sheffield Wednesday.
His first touch is constantly all over the place (he’s gotten injured multiple times as a direct consequence of it) and no Championship or League One club even would put up with him losing the ball in dangerous areas like he does.
He’s had the perfect loan opportunity here and there is no one to blame but himself.
At the end of the day, all of our other u21s midfielders (Fletchers, Devaney, Fitzgerald) are simply better than him.
They are definitely, at a baseline, better than him but outside of Jack Fletcher, I don’t think any of them have his upside with his vision and ability to play the final ball.
If he can get to the athletic standard, and get the consistency he could be a very good player but he looks a very long term prospect unless he has a complete breakthrough
Also...why send him to go and live in Switzerland for 6 months? There are so many lower league teams in and around Greater Manchester, surely it would be better for his development to go to one of those, be able to train occasionally back at Carrington, keep improving his English and settle in the area?
Stockport, Bolton, Blackpool, Wigan...we should utilise clubs like these for youth players like Leon and Kone who are new to the UK. By all means send local lads who have been at the club 10 years to a new environment for their development. Baffling loan locations really, I think Vitek and Amass (first half of season) we got lucky with, all the rest have been poor.
I thought of that, but if the club want him to succeed as a United player, I don't see how sending him to Switzerland helps with his immersion into English/Manchester life. There's definitely a good player in there, it's annoying that neither he or Collyer have pushed on this season with the overhaul in CM approaching this summer.Maybe language is an issue?
Its a French speaking part of Switzerland he's moved to and presumably French is either his mother tongue or second language.
It's not beyond possibility that he's struggling with the language and culture in England, as well as the challenges on the pitch
