It helps when the goalkeeper stops throwing the ball into his own goal
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In the latest edition of the United Hour Podcast, we interview Duncan Drasdo of MUST - covering ticket prices, new stadium, INEOS and what fans should be demanding from our club.
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I don't think it's been mentioned much how cheap this signing was. Had Bournemouth or Brighton signed Lammens, United would be linked with a 50m move for him this summer. He has walked into one of the biggest clubs in the world, in arguably the most scrutinised position at the club, and he has made such light work of it. The pressure doesn't seem to phase him at all. Such an astute signing.
true£50m would be one of the most expensive GK transfers of all time.
We should just be happy that it goes under the radar.
Similar to the Onana fee then. And he cost Inter nothing.
Small mistake against Aston Villa that he fixed
Yes to be fair he did hit a player once trying to go long, which could have been way worse than giving a corner away.
A mistake will be forgiven if overall a player is doing a solid job, which he is.
He's improved since he's been here as well. It was critical for him to get off to a solid start, a bad start could've broken him here.
But he settled in, kept it simple and then clearly they've been working hard in training since he's been here.
But he settled in, kept it simple and then clearly they've been working hard in training since he's been here.
He was solid on his debut vs Sunderland but had that one moment where he could've made a mistake leading to goal. Thankfully it did not happen, maybe he'd struggle afterwards. He's been solid ever since and other than perhaps few long-range goals where he maybe could've done better I've had no complaints.
i remember that day
Those days!!
Those seasons.
First start for Belgium today, Courtois is injured.
Great stuff well deserved for Senne!
fantastic save
and again, he's having a fantastic full debut
Signing of the season for me. Unspectacular, smart, safe and no fuss. Exactly what this club needed. I love that the cameras don't have any reasons to focus in on him during the match because everything is just ordinary. He seems like the type of player that will improve on areas of vulnerability should they arise as he grows older. I feel we've nabbed a VDS in his Ajax days. fecking great signing.
Hes also improved since Carrick came in. Talk of the devil's podcast episode recently with eric steele talks about him under Ruben and the coaching, quite laughable. Great listen,its on YouTube. Very interesting, talks about his time with fergie and training edwin and ddg.
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True. What was the most impressive is that after that he just had a very good game. His mentality is his best attribut in my opinion.
One of his biggest attributes so far is one that we’ve been lacking from previous keepers. He can actually claim crosses. I don’t fear conceding corners as much as I use to. The game against Everton where they had tons of corners… they’d have scored about 5 of them with someone like Onana in goal.
True, having Lammens solved that issue.
We‘ve started scoring from corners more ourselves. Set pieces are so much more important nowadays, so having a keeper good at catching crosses is crucial.
Every single corner felt like a viable threat with Onana in goal. He’s so beyond useless.
The way this season has gone, it would have been even worse. It’s been a step change in the way teams use corners, and block the keeper. I shudder to think how many goals from set pieces we would have conceded with him in goal.
Quick one or two liner summary about this bit for those who probably won't listen? Thanks.
He mentioned the backline not changing as much will help him, then he essentially said that Craig Mawson is a better goalkeeping coach because Jorge Vital couldn't kick a ball and serve him in the warm ups.
He then said that Lammens performances dropped off in the middle part of the season and has now improved under Carrick.
Felt like confirmation bias and just looking for something to say. But Eric Steele is clearly an expert so who knows.
He noted that Lammens wasn't being pushed to play risky passes under Carrick. Again I personally don't remember him ever being pushed to play out from the back constantly under Amorim but there you go.
He's great at everything except well placed shots. Seems perfect at everything else.
His weakness of saving well timed and placed shots is a weakness that correlates directly with an oppositions ability to take a well placed timed shot which is not the easiest thing to do.
Bargain player, don't want to get my hopes too high on the first season but he seems like a generational goalkeeper to me especially when you consider his age.
His weakness of saving well timed and placed shots is a weakness that correlates directly with an oppositions ability to take a well placed timed shot which is not the easiest thing to do.
Bargain player, don't want to get my hopes too high on the first season but he seems like a generational goalkeeper to me especially when you consider his age.
Best compliment I can give him is that he is a boring goalkeeper. Does what he is supposed to do without any fuss whatsoever. Many times I forget he's even in the team or that he was signed last summer. And that is exactly how I like my goalkeepers. Boring and utterly forgettable. Van Der Sar was also like this and that's why he's my favourite goalkeeper.
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on the bolded.As for your last line, I agree with you and Steele on that. I've been saying it for a while now that I would like to see Lammens play those passes to feet to Martinez (when he was available)/our defenders in those pockets more. Our build up from goal kicks and the set up is still really bad as there is very little plan or design but the opportunity is there even if it's in (riskier) impromptu situations. However, I am looking at it as a stone cold outsider. It's totally understandable why a 23 year old inexperienced keeper wouldn't want to try to do too much in his first season playing in an unstable defence, basic tactics and under two different managers already.
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Having said that, see this example.
AFAIK, Lammens had a pretty good game for Belgium against USA. This is the sort of pass that I would like him to do more of (but not specifically in this particular situation as the LB option out wide would have been better) but you can see how you really need to nail it along with the receiver having the awareness.
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He said about senne that his movement since signing for utd hadn't developed and that he was flat footed for a few goals which was understandable cause the quality of the goalie coach Ruben had was terrible. He said if you went to Old Trafford and watched the pre match goalie drills you'd be embarrassed, the coach was in his 60s and could bearly move. Standard of the coaching has gone up now,he knows the coaches and the current ones will develop players. Talks about Tony cotton recommending senne and that finally the club are starting to take people in the knows opinions on board. Unlike onana situation. Then talked by edwin and ddg and how great both were,different characters, Edwin would have watched all the tapes of big opponents before the coaches got round to telling him too. Ddg was alot less organised. Just alot of fantastic points and stories about the 00s utd team.
Great summary, thanks! Some nice insider info about the change of culture/respected opinion behind the scenes. One of the main things we've been lamenting about Utd is the lack of coaching that puts players in positions to succeed and actual development of individuals, so hopefully there really has been some a change of mentality in this regard. We really need to make sure the managerial appointment in the summer is right.
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Is anyone else a little bit concerned about Lammens?
I think he's done ok this season but it feels like he's gonna concede every game now. Is ok going to be good enough next season if we want to compete for the big trophies?
A lot of the discussion around him focuses on him being a safe pair of hands and being better than Onana but that shouldn't be the benchmark for a Manchester United keeper.
I think he's done ok this season but it feels like he's gonna concede every game now. Is ok going to be good enough next season if we want to compete for the big trophies?
A lot of the discussion around him focuses on him being a safe pair of hands and being better than Onana but that shouldn't be the benchmark for a Manchester United keeper.
Like everyone else yesterday. he seemed sleepy and had no focus after 22 days of break. That´s it. No more discussion needed. Great keeper.
My only concern was when he kept playing the short ball last night when the likes of Yoro and Ugarte were a bag of nerves.
Even if instructed, I feel a strong minded keeper would just stop doing that.
Apart from that I’m not sure what else he can do in the context of the goals conceded.
How much of the conceding is down to him and how much is down to a defense playing like shit in front of him though? The second goal was deflected into the corner otherwise he would have had it. The first one was closer but also struck from a closer distance.
Add to that he made that critical save right at the start.
He saved what he could yesterday. Maybe distribution was a bit off, but I’d say he was absolutely the least of our concerns.
He was actually excellent yesterday apart from one pass to Yoro who got caught on his heels and one moment where he let the ball run past him nearly into the net and awfully cleared it to a danger area. He made some brilliant saves and as always his handling was excellent. He's a top keeper.
The flakey defence with a weak Yoro and unfit Martinez is what did it for us yesterday. We need Harry and De Ligt back.
The flakey defence with a weak Yoro and unfit Martinez is what did it for us yesterday. We need Harry and De Ligt back.
Lammens is likely competing for most expected goals saved this season in the PL. I would assume top3, although I don't get the recent numbers since the data is now hidden. But I've seen a post some time ago he was around top 5 - 3 position already.
Lammens is fine. Our clean sheet record is honestly horrendous but that has little to do with him. On paper we have enough decent defenders who are all capable of solid performances. They don’t seem capable of focusing for a full game though so inevitably conceded chances. I’m hoping it’s because our back line is constantly changing so the chemistry is lacking.
They’re also put under extra pressure due to other teams walking through our midfield so a couple of new midfielders will hopefully help a lot as well.
I’ve got a lot of faith in Lammens. You can’t expect a keeper to keep everything out. You have to limit how many shots get put on target. We’re giving away two or three chances a game that most strikers would consider sitters.
They’re also put under extra pressure due to other teams walking through our midfield so a couple of new midfielders will hopefully help a lot as well.
I’ve got a lot of faith in Lammens. You can’t expect a keeper to keep everything out. You have to limit how many shots get put on target. We’re giving away two or three chances a game that most strikers would consider sitters.
Not in the slightest.
Literally everywhere else on the pitch, bar Bruno, I am concerned.
He is the least of my concerns. He's the most steady keeper we've had in years, including the last few years of calamity from De Gea.