Aguero is not Messi.
Sergio Aguero | Performances
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
Isn't Agüero still their best player? Or is that De Bryune already?
At least when Fergie benched Rooney there were 3-4 better players in the team...
At least when Fergie benched Rooney there were 3-4 better players in the team...
Am guessing tbf but Aguero doesn't really work hard enough from the front and Pep has already talked about wanting him to improve. Plus he's not a Messi where allowances will be made.
Very true but Messi is the best player in the world, not rating Aguero as highly as Messi is far from damning.
That's fair enough, I get what you're saying and agree to some extent, also Messi has just finished the game off
Bringing him on now is almost an insult
There's no way we can be expected to understand the genius behind not playing him.
Never understand this. He is City's best player by a mile.
He's City's best player, though.
4-0 with extra bodies in midfield. Tactical genius.
So when are we signing him...January or wait till the summer? 
Never said I thought it was tactical genius and we were as good as Barca till Bravo's brain fart. They are still a far better team.
Barca without their first choice defense you mean ? If you dint have an extra man in midfield you wouldnt survive the first half, You did and still got pissed on.
Hm, did you watch the game?
Of course we wouldn't hence why Aguero was dropped. Barca are the far better team.
Pep dropped a CF and played an extra man in midfield and we did well.
We wouldn't have survived without the extra midfielder.
Should never have played extra midfielders and should have played Aguero.
So I am to take it we should have started Aguero and got blown away by half time.
Caf logic is Pep should have played Aguero but kept an extra man in midfield. How's that work?
Apparently he refused to warm up with the rest of the subs before the game.
Might as well benched Stones and play another mid, it's not like he has a lot of use.
Him and Zlatan up front...it'd be like Schwartznegger and Danny Devito in Twins.So when are we signing him...January or wait till the summer?
He isn't that good. Most overrated player in football.
Uh oh. Like it like it. There is something about Argie strikers refusing to warm up at City
Uh oh. Like it like it. There is something about Argie strikers refusing to warm up at City
That was quick.Crouch and Defoe reborn.
I saw the highlights just now, it could easily have been level before Bravo's clusterfeck. The Messi goals were all because of individual mistakes, especially 1 and 3.
Why are a bunch of City fans saying they did well when they got slapped 4-0?
They were as good as Barca until they battered them.
They were as good as Barca until they battered them.
What you probably didn't see in the highlights was how easy it was for Barca to pick their forward passes and runs effortlessly with large amount of spaces being left between both midfield-defense and defense-keeper. The latter was actually suicidal against MSN, who are known to be one of the best counter attacking unit ever assembled, to play that high line and leave acres of space for the likes of Suarez and Neymar to run into. There were a couple of insanely close offside calls against Suarez that would have been a 1v1 for him with no City player anywhere near him. The tactics employed basically had no regard for the opposition nor the players they were being implemented on given their abilities. Overall a really naive 'Arsene Wenger-ish' tactical display today.
I've seen the whole game and still share @berbatrick's impression. City did very well until Bravo's red card, the scoreline is the result of being one man down after that.
Not sure either.
And the red card mention too. The infamous 1-6 game vs City was only 1-0 for City until Evans' red card, but no one mentions that.
City started well, but faded badly.
Yeah but we have to remember they only lost because their shite keeper got sent off and their dodgy defence made a handful of mistakes. Other than that they were great apparently
Just to ruin the hindsight narrative, here's a collection of posts from the MD thread prior to Bravo's send off.
There were negative comments as well of course, but something must have gone right for City in the first half.
They played well the 1st half.
I didn't dispute that. They were awful in the 2nd half though. So that to me doesn't equate them having a good game.
I think he scored 100 goals in 129 PL starts? If he "isn't that good" despite that record then his general play must be hideous.
The post you quoted disputed just that. And many, many other users.
The reality was: Surprisingly good game until early in HT2, Bravo feck up, no chance being one man down and trailing 0-1, simple as that.
This forum loves praising City though. Both sides were sloppy in possession but it was seen as City matching Barca rather than it being average quality wise.
Barca have so many of these games in the group stages. Their second half goal tally must be ridiculous over the last few seasons.
That's only half of the truth, as the 3 or 4 busy City/Guardiola threads show. A lot of people simply love to hate them and use the result to rewrite the course of the game as a whole, because it somehow pleases them.
Of course there is knee jerk praise when things go well for City, but my point is that the complete thrashing of Guardiola/City/Bravo when things go wrong is at least as knee jerk. Even more, I'd say.
Little bit of cherry-picking there I think, which I guess is allowed when trying to make your point. As I wrote, I found both teams underwhelming first 45.
Yeah, of course it was, that's why I included that last sentence. The post before your's explains the motives.