City got picked apart. No amount of sugar coating will mask that.
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But, but they played well in the first half when Barcelona had Mascherano playing at fullback and had two first choice defenders went off due to injury.
I get the impression that City fans have simply refuse to acknowledge that their club is pretty big. To have any other reaction than embarrassment when you've lost 4-0 is simply hilarious.
It's funny, this is actually the first time I've seen a set of fans being happy after seeing their team get thumped by a huge scoreline such as 4-0
I'd be doubly pissed off, first by the scoreline itself and by the fact that there were some opportunities to score at least one goal.It's funny, this is actually the first time I've seen a set of fans being happy after seeing their team get thumped by a huge scoreline such as 4-0
Backfired as badly as his Hart decision did. What was he thinking benching their best player for the biggest game of their season? Just to prove what a genius he is?
Heres hoping it leads to a massive falling out with Aguero and Guardiola that gets very public and very nasty and is great fun for everyone except City
I just assumed that he was on the bench because he wasn't fit enough again.
I just assumed that he was on the bench because he wasn't fit enough again.
Is this a City or Aguero thread?
Cheeky bid?
City are more Matalan than Catalan with that dreadful 'Orange' kit.
Can't they just go back to that nice red and black striped number they used to wear? Really liked that.
It's as if they're trying to replicate Barca in some kind of needy Lynchian pact. Very disturbing.
Can't they just go back to that nice red and black striped number they used to wear? Really liked that.
It's as if they're trying to replicate Barca in some kind of needy Lynchian pact. Very disturbing.
Their keeper got sent off at 1-down, which was a clown goal to concede too. That changes everything.
I wonder what Messi and co would have done coming up against the likes of Darmian and old man Carrick.
Or more to the point, what JM would have done. Keeping in mind he just played 6 defenders against Liverpool who aint no Barcelona.
Pep definitely out-thinks himself with his team selection at times. He benched Muller in the first leg last spring against Atleti as well.
There are actually some similarities to those two decisions. Pep often seems to want two things in big matches - three central midfielders to control the match and real wingers on the flanks who can beat a man off the dribble. But if you have those two things, that only leaves one spot for 9/10 type central attacking players. So Muller or Lewandowski had to sit, as did Aguero or De Bruyne. He is actually quite unusual, in that he places an unusually large amount of weight on implementing the tactical system he thinks is correct for the match, even at the expense of not putting his best players on the pitch.
You tell me what would he have done KM?
Unhealthy obsession again.
Some of the posts in here are hilariously ironic. Nothing to do with an obsession. I make no bones about it I think JM is a collosal flog and clearly I'm not alone in that, even your fellow supporters think that too - it's nothing to do with his ability as a Manager which is not in question (or at least I don't).
If you want to look at unhealthy obsessions read through this thread
They wouldn't have started.
Fair point. Fellaini and Valencia then
If you want to look at unhealthy obsessions read through this thread
Apparantly had a problem with staff and was involved in a mini bust up according to twitter. Hilarious if true. Citys 2 best players of the past 5 years and they both on managers wrong books.
C'mon mate. Which other top manager wouldn't get criticized if his team loses 0-4 in a CL Match. Do you think Wenger or Mourinho wouldn't have been destroyed by the media?You tell me what would he have done KM?
Some of the posts in here are hilariously ironic. Nothing to do with an obsession. I make no bones about it I think JM is a collosal flog and clearly I'm not alone in that, even your fellow supporters think that too - it's nothing to do with his ability as a Manager which is not in question (or at least I don't).
If you want to look at unhealthy obsessions read through this thread
He dropped his best player. The keeper he personally wanted dropped a bollock and was responsible for this mess. Managers live and die by their decisions. He is being praised for the resurgence of Sterling so why shouldn't be criticised for this? What would your reaction be if Wenger drops Ozil in a match against Barcelona because he wanted an extra body in midfield?
Did we lose though? You are hypothesising which is the weakest of arguments.
That's not really the point. Guardiola dropped his best player and city had no outlet. Could have been a different game prior to bravo being sent off.
I'm not defending any of Guardiola's decisions TBH, my post wasn't about that. It was about the hypocrisy in this thread and in particular the post I originally quoted. You can't win if you don't score though, and when your best player is a CF then you pick them IMO - so I don't personally agree with that decision. Why try a new tactic in a critical game? You can still flood the midfield with Aguero up-top as an outlet.
But like you said the loss was more a result of individual error, especially Bravo's, which I think that is unfair to lay solely at the feet of Guardiola. If Bravo keeps on doing stupid stuff like that then Guardiola should be criticised for supplanting Hart with him instead of someone else.
Based on our history Wenger wouldn't have adapted his side or our tactics so we would have attacked and played our natural game, getting done in the process. He would be criticised by the media and Gooners alike and rightly so.
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I didn't hypothesize, I asked a question. One which no one has answered as yet.
Everyone critisising Guardiola would have done the same for any other manager so where's the hypocrisy? It's not always fair, but the manager usually takes the blame. Had Jose lost 4-0 at the Nou Camp and dropped Ibrahimovich, the reaction would have probably been ten times worse on here.
By 6 defenders are you talking about back 5 and Fellaini?
If it was Mourinho managing a game against Barca he wouldn't have dropped aguero. The most he'd have done is put an extra body in midfield, probably at the expense of a winger.
To city fans... Has agueros form dipped in recent matches?
I think he was referring the back 4 and the 2 wingers. They formed a flat 6 when defending.
City is like Trump, the tolerance for some reason is higher than for others. It takes a bit longer until everyone turns against them
What's the question again?
Get the feck out of here with your match talk . This is a player performance thread. Mods please clean up this place or we'll be stuck with 4-5 pages of irrelevant bullshit. Not even once did they mention Aguero.
"What would Jose have done" and "how many goals would United concede". As if those two things have anything to do with Pep's decision to not play Aguero.
Who asked that?
I don't know of that's right or wrong so one of us should be flying off the bridge right about now
Manchester City legends Sergio Aguero and Vincent Kompany face the axe as Pep Guardiola's revolution continues
There were reports of a bust up between them yesterday on twitter and some other fan forums. The article is written by David Mcdonnel who is decent to say the least in terms of reliability. Could pep be alienating the squad? Its obvious not everyone will like his methods, add to that aguero's penalty miss, the situation could be tensed.
There were reports of a bust up between them yesterday on twitter and some other fan forums. The article is written by David Mcdonnel who is decent to say the least in terms of reliability. Could pep be alienating the squad? Its obvious not everyone will like his methods, add to that aguero's penalty miss, the situation could be tensed.
Times only mention Kompany in headline but i do not have full subscription so cant say if they mention aguero.Tweet
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This is what the free part of the article states.
If it's true Aguero will be sold next summer - or sooner - United should attempt to sign him. Doubt it would happen though. I would say exactly the same about Kompany if he could stay fit for more than a couple of games at a time.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/manchester-city-legends-sergio-aguero-9091248
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/manchester-city-legends-sergio-aguero-9091248
Trouble in Pepadise.
Kompany I predicted as soon as Pep was announced as the new hire, along with Nasri, Hart, & Yaya
Kun, really depended on him - Pep is demanding and Aguero isn't accustomed to having a strict coach. Plus, as good as he is and has been, can be very inconsistent. Still think Kun will have every chance to earn his place in the team longterm as I don't read much into his drop at Camp Nou - tactical decisions like these are not related to a falling out per se.
But Kun has been known to be a bit lazy and inconsistent in terms of fitness & focus. Best thing for him & Argentina is to suck it up & deliver but moving from lazy to Pep level is a leap many won't take
Kun, really depended on him - Pep is demanding and Aguero isn't accustomed to having a strict coach. Plus, as good as he is and has been, can be very inconsistent. Still think Kun will have every chance to earn his place in the team longterm as I don't read much into his drop at Camp Nou - tactical decisions like these are not related to a falling out per se.
But Kun has been known to be a bit lazy and inconsistent in terms of fitness & focus. Best thing for him & Argentina is to suck it up & deliver but moving from lazy to Pep level is a leap many won't take
Men on it too. Maybe a leak? or just media jumping on the bandwagon.Tweet
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