RedDevilRoshi
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I’d love if Sheffield Utd win this game with a very controversial, dodgy penalty decision just to shut that prick Souness up.
Inject this into me.I’d love if Sheffield Utd win this game with a very controversial, dodgy penalty decision just to shut that prick Souness up.
It’s not going to happen. The more likely outcome is that a similar handball occurs and a penalty is givenI’d love if Sheffield Utd win this game with a very controversial, dodgy penalty decision just to shut that prick Souness up.
Thats what I think as well, they'll just ignore the interview as if it never happenedIt won't even be mentioned or looked into after the game
What I want to understand is what is it that the referee has seen that convinces him that it isn't a penalty. This is why refs need to come out and be questioned at the end of games. It's all guesswork until they start doing this. If they know that they're going to be questioned after games, maybe they'll make better decisions during the match.If VAR are telling you to go and look at the monitor it is that they think it is a penalty. It was pathetic from the referee.
Agree too which for me is just as infuriating as the decision itself.Thats what I think as well, they'll just ignore the interview as if it never happened
Might be wrong but is that not what they do in their referee reports after the game which get submitted to the league and FA? Basically explaining every decision they’ve made and why.What I want to understand is what is it that the referee has seen that convinces him that it isn't a penalty. This is why refs need to come out and be questioned at the end of games. It's all guesswork until they start doing this. If they know that they're going to be questioned after games, maybe they'll make better decisions during the match.
Or just have them mic'd up! If we heard their conversation with the VAR we'd know exactly what's going on and why they're making the call. When you hear rugby refs talking to the TMO it's completely clear to everyone what's going on, whereas in football it's deliberately left for us to guess.What I want to understand is what is it that the referee has seen that convinces him that it isn't a penalty. This is why refs need to come out and be questioned at the end of games. It's all guesswork until they start doing this. If they know that they're going to be questioned after games, maybe they'll make better decisions during the match.
Great analogy, just follow a script.They are essentially WWE refs these days.
They ref according to story that is on the pitch or the stories that will be created by certain decisions. They don't ref according to rule book that is there.
They do have those refereeing reports, but if the players and managers are questioned after the games about refereeing decisions, I don't see why these questions could not be asked directly to those refs so that the fans can understand, too.Might be wrong but is that not what they do in their referee reports after the game which get submitted to the league and FA? Basically exiling every decision they’ve made and why.
Again, I might be talking pure sour grapes here but I’m sure that’s what they do after every game they officiate?
Considering that Henderson said that he's seen referees bend the lines to make them offside without being banned, I fully expect Shaw to get a five game ban for bringing the game into disrepute.Shaw is definitely getting a ban for that
This 100% needs to happen and I would fully back this.Or just have them mic'd up! If we heard their conversation with the VAR we'd know exactly what's going on and why they're making the call. When you hear rugby refs talking to the TMO it's completely clear to everyone what's going on, whereas in football it's deliberately left for us to guess.
@Pagh WraithOn a slightly more positive note, Tuchel just referred to Maguire as “MacGyver”.
100% agreeOr just have them mic'd up! If we heard their conversation with the VAR we'd know exactly what's going on and why they're making the call. When you hear rugby refs talking to the TMO it's completely clear to everyone what's going on, whereas in football it's deliberately left for us to guess.
This is always the case. I don't even care about the odd decision going against us, it's the narrative when one goes in our favour that drives me up the wall.Agree too which for me is just as infuriating as the decision itself.
Azpi is a cnut but at least he's the captain. Letting CHO, the offender, have a go at the ref during the check was a complete farceNot surprised. Cowardly. The fact that he allowed CHO and Azpilicueta (one of the biggest crybabies in the game) to constantly berate him during the VAR check says it all.
That should also need retrospective actionNot surprised. Cowardly. The fact that he allowed CHO and Azpilicueta (one of the biggest crybabies in the game) to constantly berate him during the VAR check says it all.
Agreed. Complete lack of control by the referee. I saw somebody suggest earlier that the ref should draw a line on the pitch when doing VAR calls and then the players should not be allowed past that line. If they go past it, they get booked.Azpi is a cnut but at least he's the captain. Letting CHO, the offender, have a go at the ref during the check was a complete farce
What did Mason do?Surely even if the ref thought that subconsciously, surely to feck he wouldn't admit this to Harry Maguire. If true then this is up there with Lee Mason yesterday. Premier league refereeing at an all time low
Let Brighton take a quick freekick, he blew his whistle to allow it, then changed his mind after the ball went in the net.What did Mason do?
allowed Brighton to take a quick free kick from which they scoredWhat did Mason do?
This. I said the same.The Klopp effect.
It looks as though Greenwood initiated the contact with the Odoi's handball. His arm pushed Odoi's hand against the ball. His hand can be anywhere he wants, even within millimeters of the ball as long as he's not touching it, but Greenwood's left arm pushed his hand up against the ball, at least that's what it looked like on slow-motion. I'm fine with the call, I think as a neutral if they had given it I would have said it's a bit harsh but not much more than that but I think the call was made correctly.I thought the VAR idea was to create fairness and consistency.
Yet, i have seen players who have jumped to head the ball and have actually accidentally handled the ball in mid air concede penalties this year, and I have seen people like Hudson Odoi today handle the ball to stop Greenwood control it and no penalty. How? What were his hands even doing up there in this instance, he wasnt jumping and the ball wasnt that high.
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This is so true.This is always the case. I don't even care about the odd decision going against us, it's the narrative when one goes in our favour that drives me up the wall.
Right now we've had (that I can remember) inexplicable decisions go against us vs Palace, Spurs, Sheffield, West Brom and now Chelsea. Over 25% of the games in which we've dropped points. There have been others where we've managed to pick up the 3pts regardless, e.g. vs Burnley.
Would we have won all of them without those bad decisions? Probably not. We were hammered in the Palace and Spurs games, for example. But it hardly suits the narrative of United benefitting from referees.
Wonder if they'll have anything about Mount kicking out at Fred like Maguire did at Batshuayi
He'll get nine months while Klopp gets some kind of achievement trophy invented just for himIncoming ban for Shaw then.
its a penalty. Its a nonsense about arms pushing arms. How many handballs have been given when a defender uses their arms to jump? Or jumps forwards to block and it hits their arms because you cant jump without using your arms to balance? You could argue they shouldnt be penalised because they were under pressure to jump from an opposition player. The ref didnt give it because he had let play go on for a while and felt awkward to go back in my opinion. Hudson odois arms shouldnt be up there when the ball is at chest height. No ifs no buts. They are away from his body for no good reason.It looks as though Greenwood initiated the contact with the Odoi's handball. His arm pushed Odoi's hand against the ball. His hand can be anywhere he wants, even within millimeters of the ball as long as he's not touching it, but Greenwood's left arm pushed his hand up against the ball, at least that's what it looked like on slow-motion. I'm fine with the call, I think as a neutral if they had given it I would have said it's a bit harsh but not much more than that but I think the call was made correctly.