Should Manchester United move?

[Wumminator]

Just a recent thread that got me thinking. Ultimately, does Manchester United need to be in Manchester?

If we are taken over, there may be valid reasons to move out home ground. Would you be okay with this?

 

[Wumminator]

We would find it easier to attract players if we moved to London for one thing.

 

[Pexbo]

Have a day off mate

 

[Wumminator]

Have a day off mate

I genuinely think this is an interesting question. Is Manchester United intrinsically linked with Manchester?

 

[amolbhatia50k]

You’re too wound up by the whole ownership / Qatar thing

 

[Wumminator]

You’re too wound up by the whole ownership / Qatar thing

I literally just don’t want the club to be owned by murderers. I don’t think I’m massively wound up, just sad that it could be happening.

 

[Wing Attack Plan R]

yes, the club should move to sunny Southern California.

 

[Nero]

Of course the club should forever be based in Manchester. That also has no relevance to the location of its fans/owners.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

I literally just don’t want the club to be owned by murderers. I don’t think I’m massively wound up, just sad that it could be happening.

What does this thread have to do with murder?

 

[Wumminator]

Of course the club should forever be based in Manchester. That also has no relevance to the location of its fans/owners.

Why should it be based in Manchester? It’s a really interesting question.

If the fans there are no more important than others, if the stadium is going to be taken down…

What makes Manchester United a Manchester institution?

 

[Wumminator]

What does this thread have to do with murder?

Nothing. What does this thread have to do with Qatar?

 

[Steve 007]

We would find it easier to attract players if we moved to London for one thing.

We are called Manchester Utd, I don’t think we’ve ever lost out in players to the london clubs except when Chelsea offered more money or we were playing badly. Even then I can’t think of too many. Silly idea that Manchester Utd could be based in London.

 

[Wumminator]

We are called Manchester Utd, I don’t think we’ve ever lost out in players to the london clubs except when Chelsea offered more money or we were playing badly. Even then I can’t think of too many. Silly idea that Manchester Utd could be based in London.

I think I agree with this ultimately. For me, being in Manchester is an integral part of being Manchester United.

 

[Sviken]

I thought Wummi was all about Manchester and didn't acknowledge anyone outside of it. Now you want the club to move?

 

[Wumminator]

I thought Wummi was all about Manchester and didn't acknowledge anyone outside of it. Now you want the club to move?

Just interested in people’s opinions. I’ve always thought that being based in Manchester was integral to the club. I’ve thought supporting your local players and the cultural heritage of Manchester was important. Some people might disagree, trying to gage people’s reactions.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Nothing. What does this thread have to do with Qatar?

What does this thread have to do with anything? The stadium isn’t going to move to another city ffs. Nor should it. This is just brexit esque paranoia

 

[Wumminator]

What does this thread have to do with anything? The stadium isn’t going to move to another city ffs. Nor should it. This is just brexit esque paranoia

I don’t think it will move.

My question is, could it? Would people care?

 

[amolbhatia50k]

I don’t think it will move.

My question is, could it? Would people care?

It couldn’t and shouldn't. That would be absurd and the idea wouldn’t even be entertained.

 

[Wumminator]

It couldn’t and shouldn't. That would be absurd and the idea wouldn’t even be entertained.

Okay.
Why shouldn’t it? I guess I’m trying to see why you think it is important.

 

[sglowrider]

Didn't York move? They improved since the move.
Bigger & better

 

[Wumminator]

Didn't York move?

MK Dons did.

Would it impact your support of Manchester United if they moved somewhere?

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Okay.
Why shouldn’t it? I guess I’m trying to see why you think it is important.

You know the answer. Manchester United is first and foremost a club that represents the people, society and culture of Manchester and thereafter its global fanbase. Like other clubs and their local environments, it’s history is built around that - the local fans, academy products, everything really. It’s nothing unique to this football club. You cannot remove a club from its foundations. That’s far more identity destroying that a mere change in who owns the clubs shares which doesn’t completely define the club as much as all of the rest does.

 

[Wumminator]

You know the answer. Manchester United is first and foremost a club that represents the people, society and culture of Manchester and thereafter its global fanbase. Like other clubs and their local environments, it’s history is built around that - the local fans, academy products, everything really. It’s nothing unique to this football club. You cannot remove a club from its foundations. That’s far more identity destroying that a mere change in who owns the clubs shares which doesn’t completely define the club as much as all of the rest does.

Yeah, I think I agree with that. Your first bit sums up my view perfectly.

 

[Greyfog]

THIS IS MANCHESTER!!!!!!!!! (frothing at the mouth)

 

[Wumminator]

This is the article that started this.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Seems like sensationalist nonsense.

I’m sure a new stadium would help us play better football. I understand the stadium needs work but isn’t challenging for trophies a more major concern?

 

[Sir Erik ten Hag]

Should Liverpool move to Manchester?

 

[fergiewherearethou]

Obviously not, terrible idea.

 

[McGrathsipan]

Just a recent thread that got me thinking. Ultimately, does Manchester United need to be in Manchester?

If we are taken over, there may be valid reasons to move out home ground. Would you be okay with this?

What is Manchester United in 2023?

 

[Real Name]

Have a day off mate

This.

 

[Wumminator]

What is Manchester United in 2023?

I suppose this is the crux of it isn’t it.

What does it mean to support a club in 2023? What should a Man United fan be doing.

Are traditions and history important? Or not?

Do we look after the fans in Manchester? Or are they not as important as the worldwide fanbase?


Is Manchester United intrinsically linked with the Manchester area? I think yes, a lot of fans would apparently argue no.

Is it right to consider those who go to the matches over others? How do we ensure local fans take priority?

We are going through an identity crisis and a lot of people will struggle with this.

 

[Wumminator]

This.

This poster is a perfect example.

I’ve always thought you can only support one team. In my head, you have one club.

@Real Name supports two equally. His local club and Manchester United. Is this the way football is going and I just have to get used to it? Is it possible to support two clubs now?

 

[mshnsh]

Just a recent thread that got me thinking. Ultimately, does Manchester United need to be in Manchester?

If we are taken over, there may be valid reasons to move out home ground. Would you be okay with this?

You are a wum, wumminator.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

I suppose this is the crux of it isn’t it.

What does it mean to support a club in 2023? What should a Man United fan be doing.

Are traditions and history important? Or not?

Do we look after the fans in Manchester? Or are they not as important as the worldwide fanbase?


Is Manchester United intrinsically linked with the Manchester area? I think yes, a lot of fans would apparently argue no.

Is it right to consider those who go to the matches over others? How do we ensure local fans take priority?

We are going through an identity crisis and a lot of people will struggle with this.

Are we struggling with an identity crises or you are (as a fan) or is it the game going global that’s affecting football in general? This feels like all the right wing this is our country rhetoric a bit doesn’t it?

 

[Wumminator]

Are we struggling with an identity crises or you are (as a fan) or is it the game going global that’s affecting football in general? This feels like all the right wing this is our country rhetoric a bit doesn’t it?

Does it?

You’ve just said that United should put Manchester first ahead of the global fanbase. Is that right wing?

Is Manchester United being owned by people who don’t allow gay people to live openly and require women to act in certain ways not massively right wing?

 

[McGrathsipan]

You know the answer. Manchester United is first and foremost a club that represents the people, society and culture

Don't see how that's true in this day and age.

The players are vast majority not local. They don't join for mancunian culture. They don't have roots and family in Manchester.
The managers are not local. They don't join for the societal enjoyment .
The owners certainly not local. They surely aren't representing the people.

United is a commercial entity now. The days of it being a club of locals are long long gone.

 

[Wumminator]

Don't see how that's true in this day and age.

The players are vast majority not local. They don't join for mancunian culture. They don't have roots and family in Manchester.
The managers are not local. They don't join for the societal enjoyment .
The owners certainly not local. They surely aren't representing the people.

United is a commercial entity now. The days of it being a club of locals are long long gone.

So, could the club move for you then?

Edit: this is what I mean Amol, some people don’t agree that Manchester is actually important to Manchester United. I think this is why the debate is important.

 

[Real Name]

This poster is a perfect example.

I’ve always thought you can only support one team. In my head, you have one club.

@Real Name supports two equally. His local club and Manchester United. Is this the way football is going and I just have to get used to it? Is it possible to support two clubs now?

Are you all right mate?

You really should get some fresh air, it will do you a ton of good.

 

[Herman Toothrot]

feck that.

Stop trying to rape our cultural history.

We welcome fans from around the world, but the club belongs to Manchester.

 

[Pascal Quiff]

The more interesting question is 'should Manchester United merge with a local rival?'

Imagine a United/City alliance - unlimited wealth, allied with the fervent support of 100,000 Mancunians in a custom built stadia! It would finally challenge the stranglehold that Madrid seems to have over the Champions League.