Can only imagine how the likes of Rio and Vidic must feel anytime they watch present day United at the back...
Should we consider selling Harry Maguire?
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At least we paid much less of a fee for Sanchez and subsidised some of his wages for a bit. We’re paying this charlatan way too mmuch money to be a fecking wood wagon.Alexis wasn't that long ago
He might end up up there though at this rate...
We don't seem to have any CB partner that can consistently make up for his weaknesses at the moment unfortunately so I fear it'll only continue this route until we address the position again
In the current times, he is a 20M-30M range defender at best.
Buying him for 80M has to be one of the worst pieces of business done by any club in the last few years. 10 years before, Ronaldo was being sold for a similar price to RM
Buying him for 80M has to be one of the worst pieces of business done by any club in the last few years. 10 years before, Ronaldo was being sold for a similar price to RM
The fact we never got him for 60 mil when Jose was in his 3rd season and never got backed. And then spend 80 mil on him with a new manager pretty much shows the lack of direction we are being led by. Just a shambolic ran club. Have been for years.
Even if we only paid 40m for Maguire, I'd feel we've got it wrong...
Harry Maguire is a good defender. He has limitations but is making mistakes.
Shaw is making mistakes, AWB is making mistakes, Lindelof and Bailey make mistakes.
Pogba looks blunt, Matic looks blunt, Rashford looks blunt.
So the question really isn't about selling players because they aren't performing, when MOST of the players are in the same boat. This is a collective issue that means its down to coaching and organisation.
Shaw is making mistakes, AWB is making mistakes, Lindelof and Bailey make mistakes.
Pogba looks blunt, Matic looks blunt, Rashford looks blunt.
So the question really isn't about selling players because they aren't performing, when MOST of the players are in the same boat. This is a collective issue that means its down to coaching and organisation.
We paid 80 mil for him a world record for a defender along with 50 for AWB and 30 each for Shaw and baily/lindelof take your pick. If I was running this club that would give me sleepless nights. The defending so far this season is an absolute shambles. Not just the back four but as a unit.
His limitation is that he’s shit I’m afraid.
Main reason why I'm starting to believe it won't matter who we have at the helm so long as the current clowns above stay in charge of football related decision making.
Thought Barcelona were in the mud management wise but we might just be the worst ran big club in Europe quite honestly. They seem hellbent on turning us into the new AC Milan
We should but if we're considering Dan James too early to sell, he'll probably be here until he's 30 and worth nothing. And then we'll give him a 10-year deal.
It's not that they are underperforming, it's that we have massively overrated them.
When the team is well organised around him, he adds a lot of value in physical and aerial presence. When everyone is a headless chicken he's not the type of defender to single handedly fix things. He would be more prone to errors himself in those circumstances and that's what happened.
Leicester have completely conned us. Still our best defender though, amazingly.
We need an entirely new backline. We have to settle with him as a stop gap until then.
We need an entirely new backline. We have to settle with him as a stop gap until then.
Who would want him? We wouldn't get half what we paid.
They issue is the entire defence has been equally as bad as Maguire, selling Maguire will not suddenly improve the defence, but for hypothetical sake, replace him with who?
We could have got him straight from Hull if we had any clue what we were doing. Liverpool got Robertson for a snip from them. Maguire was such a panic buy it’s untrue.
No way, the return would be an absolute embarrassment. Keep him and put him on as a sub when we need to defend leads against teams like Burnley.
Of course we should, otherwise his limitations will direct the way we set up for the duration of his stay here.
Selling him would be an admission of making a mistake in signing him so it won't happen. He's never been half as good as the club thought/wanted him to be though.
The defence looks as much of a mess now with him and Wan-Bissaka in it as it did before they arrived.
The defence looks as much of a mess now with him and Wan-Bissaka in it as it did before they arrived.
Managers like Nuno & Bielsa have got worse defenders looking much better than him.
Coaching is a big issue here for me.
We see too many other teams just looking effortless in there play, even when they lose. We just look awful.
This is the same under Mourinho & LVG too and thats what I cant work out.
What is really going on at this club?
Maguire isnt WC but hes a damn site better than this.
Coaching is a big issue here for me.
We see too many other teams just looking effortless in there play, even when they lose. We just look awful.
This is the same under Mourinho & LVG too and thats what I cant work out.
What is really going on at this club?
Maguire isnt WC but hes a damn site better than this.
He’s not worth half the money we paid for him. Leicester have absolutely robbed us. We would literally have been better off persisting with Smalling.
Wycombe Wanderers wouldn't buy him.
The fkin Easter Island statues would do a better job than this lump.
The fkin Easter Island statues would do a better job than this lump.
Absolutely not. The whole team needs a reset after the international break. We’ve been caught cold because of no pre-season. Maguire had a complete nightmare today but so have numerous other players, both today and in the other matches.
Him and the entire defense. Thought he was a poor signing when he joined, and my opinion hasn't changed.
Yes but who would buy?
Is he better than Smalling? No.
When you spend 80.million on a CB you should be buying a rock, the real deal, the foundation of your defence for at least 5 years.
Maguire was just a bang average premiership defender.
Is he better than Smalling? No.
When you spend 80.million on a CB you should be buying a rock, the real deal, the foundation of your defence for at least 5 years.
Maguire was just a bang average premiership defender.
Should never have signed him.
I actually missed him fouling Shaw and initially though Lamela pulled him instead. Dreary me, Maguire should at least lose the captaincy surely? No way the rest of the players have any confidence in this guy leading our defence, let alone the whole team
Yes.
The knives are out in force tonight!
I swear there’s a stat that said after signing Maguire our defensive record has actually vastly improved and we had the most clean sheets last season in the whole of europe.
I swear there’s a stat that said after signing Maguire our defensive record has actually vastly improved and we had the most clean sheets last season in the whole of europe.
Smalling deserves an apology honestly
Him and Blind have probably been the best CB's we've had post-Fergie, not saying much I know but still
Even if all this is true, it still doesn't take away from the glaring flaws in Maguire. The first and second goals that were conceded today were individual errors, not coaching/organization errors.
No, but Wan Bissaka yes!
He’s gotta be benched.
No way are we selling him. Nobody would buy him.
He’s not that bad but unfortunately he’s also not that good. We’re stuck with him.
Best thing about him is his fitness record, which with Jones and Bailly at club is useful in fairness.
He’s not that bad but unfortunately he’s also not that good. We’re stuck with him.
Best thing about him is his fitness record, which with Jones and Bailly at club is useful in fairness.
Sign a Liverpool defender
If this thread is allowed to carry on then we might as well start another half dozen "Should we sell threads" while we're at it. Mods in for the lock!
Based on what that we are a big club? History ?
We are more a Europe League level team this days
Why not? This one should have been started long ago, kudos to @TsuWave .
Sell our best CB?
Sell him when his value will be at an all time low?
Sell him for much less than what we paid for him just over a year ago?
Of course we should
Sell him when his value will be at an all time low?
Sell him for much less than what we paid for him just over a year ago?
Of course we should
Of course but there are elements that can be coached out. We aren't close to being Street smart.
We don't show toughness, crowding the ball to stop early free kicks, we don't over react to sway referee minds, etc. We're a bunch of nice guys under Ole.