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First strip the armband off him. If he is still crap for a few more matches, bench him. Then sell.
He can only go off the team at the time of speaking. At the time of making those comments we hadn't signed Bruno. Prior to the Bruno signing we were very much looking to finishing fifth or six. If two weeks ago I said we'd finish sixth based on our business and then we go and sign Koulibally, Sancho, Telles, Cavani and Partey on deadline day, the situation changes entirely. He was bang on the money with us. Was obviously wrong with Chelsea.Predicted United and Chelsea going 5th and 6th.
Came 3rd and 4th.
England definitely did this, they didn't even play a 3 in the run up to the world cup, but you are right its not a general thing like he made outMerson is full of bollocks. I remember when he did this, it was when we signed Maguire. He absolutely pasted Maguire and then that weekend we beat Chelsea 4-0 at home (albeit a bit lucky) and Maguire got Man of the Match. Then a few days later Merson came out and apologised and said he was wrong about Maguire!
The truth is, I don’t believe Maguire is good enough for us. But Merson went back and forth on his views.
I have to disagree with his biggest bollocks though that you only play 3 at the back when your defenders aren’t good enough?
Did he never watch Maldini, Costacurta, Baresi, Nesta play football? And more recently the likes of Barzagli, Bonucci and Chiellini forming a formidable defence for many years at Juve.
With regards to Maguire, I don’t believe he’s good enough. Yes he had a “decent” season last season, but even a decent season never made us look solid and reliable defensively. There was never a run of games where I felt confidence about our defence. It was more a case of being confident that we would out score the opponent or we would sit deep and counter teams.
Was fine. Much better in a back three.How is he doing for England today?
If he does it with us he ll be accused of leaving a hole behind him. You cannot win with certain people.Was fine. Much better in a back three.
Going forward, it's something Ole should look at.
Yeah, exactly.If he does it with us he ll be accused of leaving a hole behind him. You cannot win with certain people.
Tbf with 3cbs , the "hole" can easily be covered by one of the other two.
Different systems, different tactics, different players, etc.This is the point I make. How can they be so poor for us but when they go and play for their countries they are much better?
Definitely- Maguire, Lindelof are both better in a back 3.Was fine. Much better in a back three.
Going forward, it's something Ole should look at.
AgreedDefinitely- Maguire, Lindelof are both better in a back 3.
True.Definitely- Maguire, Lindelof are both better in a back 3.
Who doesn't that apply for?Definitely- Maguire, Lindelof are both better in a back 3.
Skriniar - he looks lost in a back 3Who doesn't that apply for?
This!First strip the armband off him. If he is still crap for a few more matches, bench him. Then sell.
Ole , ed, mourinho, guardiola all wanted him within a yearWhoever thought an incredibly slow defender is what we needed clearly hasn't got a clue. Don't know if it's Ole, or Woodward or whoever.
One of the biggest reasons we can't press high is because of him! One long ball and he's on his arse!
Ok, we needed a ball playing defender, but why get the slowest one available? What's the point? You solve one thing and ruin another.
If you believe what's said.Ole , ed, mourinho, guardiola all wanted him within a year
Don't think any of those wanting him is contended by anybody, maybe ed didn't 'want him' but he shouldn't be wanting anybody, should just be acting on what the football people recommendIf you believe what's said.
Berrara, City's "chief football operations officer", pretty much confirmed they wanted Maguire but not at that price just a few days ago. It's entirely in line with their transfer strategy; another John Stones or Kyle Walker. Only the fact they got burned by Stones' price last time presumably made them more adamant that they're not going over the odds again this time. Presumably we'll do the same next time.If you believe what's said.
PaywalledBerrara, City's "chief football operations officer", pretty much confirmed they wanted Maguire but not at that price just a few days ago. It's entirely in line with their transfer strategy; another John Stones or Kyle Walker. Only the fact they got burned by Stones' price last time presumably made them more adamant that they're not going over the odds again this time. Presumably we'll do the same next time.
It's entirely reasonable that Maguire's still not 100% after being arrested and publicly shamed, while also playing in a team that offers him so little protection and support in this time of need. It's a bit odd that people want to kick him while he's down.
He may be our best centre half but that’s only because we don’t have any decent centre halves.Again, it has to be said. Selling Maguire now would be stupid. Not only would we be selling him at a loss. Maguire is also our best centerback. We should be looking for another centerback to pair with him instead.
He wasn’t much betterThis is the point I make. How can they be so poor for us but when they go and play for their countries they are much better?
Exactly.Is it that surprising that defenders are better in a back three? Of course, they are; there are more of them.
He was also shielded by two defensive midfielders and had two wing-backs. In essence, England played seven defensive players, so it isn't surprising that his weaknesses weren't exploited so much. Albeit, Lukaku caused him quite a few issues.
England has no choice but to play with inadequate centre-backs, but Manutd has a choice I don't think Manutd should settle for a centre-back that needs to be coddled and protected so much; he obviously isn't very good if he needs so much protection.