Mark Pawelek
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Or demotivated.He is declining.
Or demotivated.He is declining.
This was the worry when people were happy with only the 3 signings this year. I don’t see how the club can’t see danger ahead. We’ll be replacing Matic, Young,Pogba and De Gea before even working on the first team players that actually need upgrading. Players like Pogba and De Gea don’t want to be wasting prime world class years in transition.
De gea will be a PSG player next summer with his mate Ander.
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...on a season long loan.PSG have already signed Navas
It's a transfer mate, £13.50m (+ Areola on loan for a season) and contract until 2023....on a season long loan.
I’ve been saying for a while that the inflation in transfer fees is going to lead to more players seeing out their contracts. Already begun, but it’s goibg to become a theme in the coming years. Look at Spurs, there’s a few running contracts down. I think De Gea will do the same, and Juve love a free and have a decent but replaceable keeper.I feel like we're watching the football transfer world eat itself here. AFAIK Club financial models have always used transfer fee + wages amortized over contract length to decide if a transfer makes sense financially. The only logical thing to do for the players then is to run down their contract, minimize the transfer fee and maximize the player wages. It wouldn't surprise me if De Gea moved to Juve for 500k p/w on a 5 year contract for example because that "only" translates to 130 million in cost for Juve for the contract. If they were to buy a keeper of De Gea's quality, the transfer itself would cost something ~100M and with wages of 200k p/w the deal will cost something like 150-160 million in total.
We've ended up with the clubs and players playing a zero-sum game and so far the players seem to have the upper hand. As a football fan, you'd prefer to have the clubs have more power than players / agents, but maybe that's not something we should be rooting for.
The same Henderson who made a mess of an easy ball for Chelsea's first goal?Henderson is amore than capable replacement. I expect him to get an England call up this year.
For this reason alone we should be moving him on, never mind the fact that other people like myself believe he is in decline as well.If he doesn't want to be here time to move on.
I agree on De Gea and Romero. Romero is a great number two getting games here and there when you want to rest your number 1 or because of injury can play a few games in a row, but he isnt someone you want starting all your games. He was never consistent in his career, he wont suddenly be now. As soon as he plays more often, mistakes creep in and you realise he is a good number 2 only, almost perfect in that sense, because he doesnt moan and does his job well.My opinion on the matter is that I believe DDG will leave.
I also think that Romero isn't good enough to be our number 1 and a lot of fans will realise this when he gets more game time.
Also, I haven't seen enough of Henderson to know if he is capable of being our number 1. Is he considered a top talent? England's future number 1? Same kind of level as Pickford do we think? Genuinely curious.
I guess there is a chance that we will simply buy a ready made replacement for DDG too.
What? So you expect no keeper to make errors ever?The same Henderson who made a mess of an easy ball for Chelsea's first goal?
Happy days if he stays? In his current form (or better term 'state') and the reported wages, it is madness.I'm not too bothered anymore. He's still a great shot stopper even factoring in his mistakes of late. I think his inability to come of his line, for either crosses or to clear his lines,plus his distribution isn't top class. I think the modern keeper role has evolved. If he stays than happy days, if he goes, I'm not that bothered to be honest. I think at this stage we have bigger issues than our keeper.
Nah, he's been very good whenever he's played.Im suprised many of you rate Romero so low that you want to start Henderson or buy a new keeper (given there is so many other positions to fill).
Is he really that average?
So we should keep him so he doesnt regain form at Juve and that our fansbase subsequently doesnt go into meltdown? Good planYep let him go to Juve. We have such a good track record of replacing players that I'm sure we will buy a top GK next summer. He's never been the same GK for Spain that he is for United, so him being dropped from the NT is no surprise. What will happen is he will probably leave to Juve and regain his top form. Then this thread will turn into a b!*h fest about how useless our board is and why we didn't extend him.
No, we keep him because he's still a top 5 GK. Look at the comparison in shots against and goals allowed last season, you can swap any of these GK with De Gea and the way we played last season none would do better.So we should keep him so he doesnt regain form at Juve and that our fansbase subsequently doesnt go into meltdown? Good plan
He may or may not come good here or anywhere else, but currently, him getting that contract is a joke. Should have sold him last season, but since we are rarely proactive, this happens. We love to wait until it is too late
thats your opinion. Most of them would have done better, guys like Oblak, Ter Stegen and Alisson are better than him right now and last season. Less mistakes and miles better on the ball. A top GK makes a huge difference, De Gea isnt a top GK right now. If you still believe that, then you also still believe Alexis is a top player. They all make mistakes, but some do less and save more, which De Gea was a master of, but isnt currently. On top of that, his weaknesses on the ball and commanding the area/high balls are therefore even more highlightedNo, we keep him because he's still a top 5 GK. Look at the comparison in shots against and goals allowed last season, you can swap any of these GK with De Gea and the way we played last season none would do better.
De Gea - 184 / Goals - 54
Leno - 158 / Goals - 42
Kepa - 125 / Goals - 39
Allison - 100 / Goals - 22
Ederson - 83 / Goals - 23
Oblak - 127 / Goals - 27
Ter Stegen - 123 / Goals - 31
So now we're comparing De Gea to Alexis . No point in continuing.thats your opinion. Most of them would have done better, guys like Oblak, Ter Stegen and Alisson are better than him right now and last season. Less mistakes and miles better on the ball. A top GK makes a huge difference, De Gea isnt a top GK right now. If you still believe that, then you also still believe Alexis is a top player. They all make mistakes, but some do less and save more, which De Gea was a master of, but isnt currently. On top of that, his weaknesses on the ball and commanding the area/high balls are therefore even more highlighted
That stat isnt helping your case. If you look at relative numbers, only Kepa is worse.
We are not comparing them, i just wanted to show how desperate you are. You know you have no arguments left, the truth is on the pitch. But you can keep your De Gea posters on the wall, i hope they are save for nowSo now we're comparing De Gea to Alexis . No point in continuing.
Poor ol KeylorHe might be off to PSG, following his mate Ander. That would be some coup for the frenchies.