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So we all know with spent a lot of money and probably not had value for money since Fergie.

But let’s keep it light and entertaining. Just Hits and failures. Then your pick for value for money and you pick for waste of money.


Juan Mata £40m
Marouane Fellaini £29m
Victor Valdes Free
Daley Blind £15.75m
Maros Rojo £18m
Ander Herrera £32.4m
Luke Shaw £33.75m
Angel Di Maria £67.5m
Radamel Falcao Loan
Sergio Romero Free
Bastian Schweinsteiger £8.1m
Matteo Darmian £16.2m
Memphis Depay £30.6m
Morgan Schneiderlin £31.5m
Anthony Martial £54
Paul Pogba £93.25m
Henrikh Mkhitaryan £26.3m
Zlatan Ibrahimvoic Free
Eric Bailly £30m
Nemanja Matic £40m
Romelu Lukaku £90m
Victor Lindelof £39.5m
Matej Kovar Free
Alexis Sanchez £30m (Swap)
Lee Grant £1.5m
Fred £61.2m
Diogo Dalot £19
Harry Maguire £80m
Aaron Wan-Bissaka £50m
Dan James £18m
Odion Ighalo Loan
Bruno Fernandes £67.7m
Edinson Cavani Free
Facundo Pellistri Free
Alex Telles £15.4m
Donny van de Beek £39
 

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Yes, so yeah we basically know that you’re one of those that likes angry reactions to your posts but straight up lying bout some transfer fees to make them look worse :nono:
 

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Juan Mata £40m - hit
Marouane Fellaini £29m - hit
Victor Valdes Free - miss
Daley Blind £15.75m - hit
Maros Rojo £18m - miss
Ander Herrera £32.4m - hit
Luke Shaw £33.75m - hit
Angel Di Maria £67.5m - miss
Radamel Falcao Loan - miss
Sergio Romero Free - hit
Bastian Schweinsteiger £8.1m - miss
Matteo Darmian £16.2m - miss
Memphis Depay £30.6m - miss
Morgan Schneiderlin £31.5m - miss
Anthony Martial £54 - hit
Paul Pogba £93.25m - I’m not getting into it
Henrikh Mkhitaryan £26.3m - miss
Zlatan Ibrahimvoic Free - hit
Eric Bailly £30m - miss
Nemanja Matic £40m - hit
Romelu Lukaku £90m - miss
Victor Lindelof £39.5m - miss
Matej Kovar Free - who?
Alexis Sanchez £30m (Swap) - miss
Lee Grant £1.5m - does it matter?
Fred £61.2m - did he really cost that much? Miss, in that case
Diogo Dalot £19 - miss
Harry Maguire £80m - hit / miss
Aaron Wan-Bissaka £50m - hit
Dan James £18m - miss
Odion Ighalo Loan - miss
Bruno Fernandes £67.7m - hit so far
Edinson Cavani Free - too early
Facundo Pellistri Free - too early
Alex Telles £15.4m - too early
Donny van de Beek £39 - too early

Valué for money
- Zlatan. Or if the ones who we paid for... none of them.

Biggest waste of money - this is a tough category with lots of worthy contenders and, in most situations, Lumpy Lukaku would take this hands down, but I’m awarding this to Mr Demotivated... Angel di Maria.
 

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Juan Mata £40m - hit
Marouane Fellaini £29m - hit
Victor Valdes Free - hit (a back up GK for fee, yea why not)
Daley Blind £15.75m - miss
Maros Rojo £18m - miss
Ander Herrera £32.4m - hit
Luke Shaw £33.75m - hit
Angel Di Maria £67.5m - miss, big miss
Radamel Falcao Loan - sadly a miss
Sergio Romero Free - hit, such a professional
Bastian Schweinsteiger £8.1m - miss
Matteo Darmian £16.2m - miss
Memphis Depay £30.6m - miss
Morgan Schneiderlin £31.5m - miss
Anthony Martial £54 - hit
Paul Pogba £93.25m - miss. The expectations were to have world class player who can lead the team (probably captain the team). We ended up with someone who’s mostly interested in social media and keeps flirting with other clubs. Really wanted this to be a hit, big hit, but nope...
Henrikh Mkhitaryan £26.3m - miss, a very good player. Not sure why we mis-used him
Zlatan Ibrahimvoic Free - hit, was a joy to have him
Eric Bailly £30m - miss, injury prone
Nemanja Matic £40m - hit
Romelu Lukaku £90m - hit, eventually left as the manager was looking for a different kind for forward
Victor Lindelof £39.5m - hit, yet hope we sign someone better
Matej Kovar Free - still work in progress. Can’t judge, but with henderson, he’ll probably end up leaving as a miss
Alexis Sanchez £30m (Swap) - can’t get worse than this miss
Lee Grant £1.5m - miss, why did we sign him!
Fred £61.2m - he didn’t cost us this much! Hit
Diogo Dalot £19 - miss
Harry Maguire £80m - miss so far. For 80 million you expect a better commanding defender. But still has a chance to turn things around i think
Aaron Wan-Bissaka £50m - hit
Dan James £18m - miss, can he ever improve?
Odion Ighalo Loan - miss
Bruno Fernandes £67.7m - hit. Thank God we have him
Edinson Cavani Free - too early
Facundo Pellistri Free - too early
Alex Telles £15.4m - too early
Donny van de Beek £39 - too early
 

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Juan mata is a big miss.

Loveable chap with puppy eyes but he really set us back a few good years. How on earth he managed to play for us for 7 years in mind boggling.

He's a spanish jones, toss a few good cameos in a year and got contract extension.
 

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Don't think any of them can be a hit until we win the title, managers included.

Funny how we've won just about everything else post Fergie except the stuff we really want to win.
 

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Man, the success % is pretty low compared to Liverpool and Man city during the same period. Let's hope we can turn it around in the next few years. Bruno is a good start.

On a side note, is it highly controversial to say that Rashford has been our best attacker during this time period? He played a big part in us winning our 3 major honors post Fergie and the only youth product to continue his ascent regardless of the changes around the club. I would personally rank only DDG ahead of him in terms of performances. Or am I tripping?
 

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Can't be bothered to review each transfer but overall it just been a mess not just miss.
 

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Some of these fees are just totally made up so it's pointless even having a proper discussion
 

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Actual Hits: zlatan, Bruno, Herrera, Martial, AWB, Fred, fellaini

Ok but hoped for better: Pogba, maguire, shaw, blind, lukaku, Mata, Depay, Matic, Miki, lindelof, Bailly

horrible signings (mostly LVG): Di Maria, Falcao, Basti, Sanchez, Rojo, Darmian, Morgan S.

It’s way too early to tell with the new signings.
 

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Unless AWB improves offensively I would place him under the OK but hoped for better category. His deficiencies there affect how we can set up and allows teams to focus on defending our left/middle with impunity.
 

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Actual Hits: zlatan, Bruno, Herrera, Martial, AWB, Fred, fellaini

Ok but hoped for better: Pogba, maguire, shaw, blind, lukaku, Mata, Depay, Matic, Miki, lindelof, Bailly

horrible signings (mostly LVG): Di Maria, Falcao, Basti, Sanchez, Rojo, Darmian, Morgan S.

It’s way too early to tell with the new signings.
LVG signed Martial.
 

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Perfect Valued Hits
Zlatan, Romero, Bruno, Herrera

Expensive (undeserved costly) Hits sort-of
Maguire, AWB, Fred, Martial, Shaw, Fellaini, Mata

Okay...
Pogba, Ighalo, Grant, Lindelof, Lukaku, Matic, Bailly, Darmian, Mkhi, Blind, Rojo

Disappointing Rubbishes
Schneiderlin, Depay, Dalot, Falcao, Valdes, James

Expensive Rubbish Flops
Sanchez, Schweini, Di Maria

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???
Cavani, vdB, Telles, Pellistri, Diallo, Kovar


Conclusion?
= We really need to get more perfect Hits i.e. "right" sum of investments for a well-matched expectations or over-exceed level performances.
 

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So we all know with spent a lot of money and probably not had value for money since Fergie.

But let’s keep it light and entertaining. Just Hits and failures. Then your pick for value for money and you pick for waste of money.


Juan Mata £40m
*Miss, a classy player we don't need and whenever we try to fit him it our collective play suffers, at 150/week he's stealing a living

Marouane Fellaini £29m
*Meh, did his job, 30M wasn't abig deal in today's money, wasn't that big deal back then either. He's doing a hatchet man job and that's about that. People just expect more of him but he actually deliver what he's brought in to do.

Victor Valdes Free
Free backup, doesn't matter

Daley Blind £15.75m
Classy player we don't need, good PR. 16M isn't a big deal, no love loss, sell and move on

Maros Rojo £18m
Other than his weekly wage, peanuts, should be offloaded

Ander Herrera £32.4m
Overrated for a good 1-2 season. Never really liked him anyway, talks a good talks but ultimately a selfish player

Luke Shaw £33.75m
All potential but nothing solid. His injury could be blamed but I don't think he injured his brain, yet his weak mentality remains. Miss, the opportunity cost of playing him and waiting for him to resemble anything is gone.

Angel Di Maria £67.5m
Nuff said I think

Radamel Falcao Loan
Wasn't such an atrocity, bought for free, turned out crock due to injury. Wasn't his fault, wasn't our stupidity. Free = nothing lost

Sergio Romero Free
Good backup.

Bastian Schweinsteiger £8.1m
8M for a PR machine, wasn't a bad deal. It's a statement of intent , and in a well oiled fergie team I beleieve BFS could make a contribution if used sparingly and luxuriously. Not while we're struggling.

Matteo Darmian £16.2m
I remember he sets the world alight in his first few games, mentally weak player.

Memphis Depay £30.6m
Too soon, too fast. I think the burden of playing for United really got into him. Turns out to be a fine player without all the extra expectations.

Morgan Schneiderlin £31.5m
One season wonder, we got mugged

Anthony Martial £54
I don't think he's all that, too lazy to work hard and improve his game. Wasted potential. Whatever level he's on he could have and should have been much better

Paul Pogba £93.25m
Better cut loss and sell him, bad move. The one player that's bigger than the team or the manager, and for all his shenagigans he offers nothing on the field. He's not even trying anymore.

Henrikh Mkhitaryan £26.3m
Pure Flop

Zlatan Ibrahimvoic Free
King!

Eric Bailly £30m
30M defender class who's prone to brain fart.

Nemanja Matic £40m
Good deal, bought to do a job and a job he did, too bad 2nd isn't good enough.

Romelu Lukaku £90m
Did a job, turned sour, but well recouped the price we bought him for.

Victor Lindelof £39.5m
I don't think he's that bad, he's just a 40M defender, performs like one, looks like one, and worth like one in the current market

Matej Kovar Free
Irellevant

Alexis Sanchez £30m (Swap)
Crock flop

Lee Grant £1.5m
Irrelevant

Fred £61.2m
Wrong price, Jury still out. Looks decent but we could have bought a lot better at that price

Diogo Dalot £19
Flop

Harry Maguire £80m
Overrated, overpriced, mediocre defender who performs no better than a prime Jonny Evans. We got robbed, he's not bad for the price of 25-30, but at 80 he should be performing 2x his current rate.

Aaron Wan-Bissaka £50m
Same as Maguire, but at least he was young and got time on his side

Dan James £18m
Got found out pretty much after a good start up. Looks finished mentally and momentum wise

Odion Ighalo Loan
I think something dodgy is happening here.

Bruno Fernandes £67.7m
Looks good so far, but jury is still out

Edinson Cavani Free
same as bruno

Facundo Pellistri Free
Irrelevant

Alex Telles £15.4m
Irrelevant, good if working wasn't a big deal if not

Donny van de Beek £39
Jury still out
 

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The first big screw up was Moyes. The 2013 team was on its last legs and he didn't do anything to rejuvenate it. Basically thought it was FM and only wanted to sign Bale/Ronaldo/Fabregas or his old players at Everton. Completely ignored the players we had scouted at the club.

LvG really opened the flood gates of buying average players on big salaries whilst also getting rid of a lot of good squad players from Fergie's day for barely nothing (see Rafael and Evans going for about 5 million, then buying Darmian and Rojo for about 30 million).

I don't think post LvG the recruitment has actually been that bad apart from Sanchez. Even the players that flopped have retained some sort of value.
 

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Not one of them has been value for money when you compare the money spent on them in transfer fees and wages to what they have delivered on the pitch. With the money spent on them they should have won more.

Only real value for money signings made were Zlatan and Romero.
 

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I'm not a huge fan of all the signings we have done under OGS, but I think it is a bit interesting that this is the players he (apparently) has wanted to sign (but failed to attract or convince the board to sign);

- Erling Braut Haaland,
- Jude Bellingham,
- Jack Grealish,
- Jadon Sancho,

All but one has "took off" literally months after we "tried" signing them. Failing to get these players might be the margins that prevent OGS from making it here. All of these players could have had a huge impact on our squad. Some of them similar to Bruno Fernandes.

Or it might tell us that he has a good eye for players. Remembering back to the days of our former coach, it felt as if the players we failed to sign was;

- Willian,
- Ivan Perisic,
- Toby Alderweireld,
- Jerome Boateng,

Good players, but not players that would make us positive about the future.
 

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It’s funny that Fergie's last signing, Zaha, has achieved more in the period since then than most of that list.
 

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would only really say Zlatan, Romero, Bruno have been hits, rest aint been nothing special, considering the money we have spent its been a disaster, in United defence alot of them looked good on paper and majority of fans were excited but its just not worked out for majority of them
 

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Juan Mata - A Woodward panic buy to make up for the previous summers' terrible transfer window. Expensive squad player. Top top professional though.
Marouane Fellaini - Expensive squad player
Daley Blind - OK
Maros Rojo - Waste of money. Always injured
Ander Herrera - OK
Luke Shaw - Hasnt developed how we hoped. Injury prone. Miss
Angel Di Maria - Hiss. I mean Miss
Radamel Falcao - Miss
Sergio Romero - Got full value from him. Very good keeper who never let his managers down
Bastian Schweinsteiger - Pointless signing. I called it at the time. Physically he was finished at playing top tier football
Matteo Darmian - Miss
Memphis Depay - Expensive flop. You could argue he should've been given more time since he was young
Morgan Schneiderlin - Another very expensive flop
Anthony Martial - OK. Expensive squad player though. Mentally weak
Paul Pogba - Flop move on.
Henrikh Mkhitaryan - Had some good moments in the short spell he was here but ultimately a miss.
Zlatan Ibrahimvoic - Delivered in his short spell here. Hit
Eric Bailly - Waste of money. Always injured
Nemanja Matic - OK
Romelu Lukaku - OK. He hit good numbers whilst at the club. Style didnt fit the new manager.
Victor Lindelof - Miss. Has good qualities but ultimately a weak defender
Alexis Sanchez - Big Flop.
Fred - OK. Ok player But too expensive for a squad player
Diogo Dalot - Still relative early days for me
Harry Maguire - Relatively early. So far proving to be a good signing.
Aaron Wan-Bissaka - See Maguire.
Dan James - From what we've seen of him the past year? Miss
Odion Ighalo - Meh
Bruno Fernandes - Early days. But Hit so far..

Far too many squad fillers and not enough squad thrillers. STOP THIS SHITE
 

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Juan Mata £40m Miss because every manager think he can do a job on the RW and we're not addressing this position
Marouane Fellaini £29m OK
Victor Valdes Free N/A
Daley Blind £15.75m OK
Maros Rojo £18m Miss he's not good and constantly injured, never rated that kind of defender
Ander Herrera £32.4m Hit
Luke Shaw £33.75m Hit
Angel Di Maria £67.5m Miss his mentality was the problem
Radamel Falcao Loan OK
Sergio Romero Free Hit
Bastian Schweinsteiger £8.1m OK
Matteo Darmian £16.2m Miss poor player
Memphis Depay £30.6m Miss poor player
Morgan Schneiderlin £31.5m Miss

Anthony Martial £54 Hit
Paul Pogba £93.25m Miss if fee is considered, OK if not
Henrikh Mkhitaryan £26.3m Miss

Zlatan Ibrahimvoic Free Hit
Eric Bailly £30m Miss he's not good and constantly injured, never rated that kind of defender
Nemanja Matic £40m Hit
Romelu Lukaku £90m Miss limited player
Victor Lindelof £39.5m OK
Matej Kovar Free N/A
Alexis Sanchez £30m (Swap) Miss his mentality was the problem
Lee Grant £1.5m N/A
Fred £61.2m Hit
Diogo Dalot £19 Miss
Harry Maguire £80m OK
Aaron Wan-Bissaka £50m OK
Dan James £18m Miss shocked why we paid so much for him really
Odion Ighalo Loan OK
Bruno Fernandes £67.7m Hit
Edinson Cavani Free N/A
Facundo Pellistri Free N/A
Alex Telles £15.4m N/A
Donny van de Beek £39 N/A

So far it seems Ole is doing quite well, but should've addressed right Wing rather than buying another attacking mid. Dan James and Diego Dalot are poor players but didn't cost much so it's always a gamble with that kind of transfers.
 
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I'm going to split these up into a rough timeline of managers and hit and miss segmentation so it's more readable. Can't imagine anyone is reading these blanket lists.

Moyes:

Marouane Fellaini £29m Miss

Juan Mata £40m Hit

LVG:


Victor Valdes Free Miss
Maros Rojo £18m Miss
Luke Shaw £33.75m Miss - He was bought as one of the hottest prospects but I don't think he'll ever be a world class left back since that leg break - we'll end up seeing him replaced at some point.
Angel Di Maria £67.5m Miss
Radamel Falcao Loan Miss
Bastian Schweinsteiger £8.1m Miss
Matteo Darmian £16.2m Miss
Memphis Depay £30.6m Miss
Morgan Schneiderlin £31.5m Miss

Daley Blind £15.75m Hit - think he would actually do quite well in this team. Was a good squad option and sold too soon.
Anthony Martial £54 Hit
Ander Herrera £32.4m Hit - he was a good centre mid, he had the work rate of fred with slightly better passing we should have kept him. He understood what it meant to play for united.
Sergio Romero Free Hit

Jose:


Paul Pogba £93.25m Miss
Henrikh Mkhitaryan £26.3m Miss
Eric Bailly £30m Miss
Romelu Lukaku £90m Miss
Victor Lindelof £39.5m Miss
Alexis Sanchez £30m (Swap) Miss
Lee Grant £1.5m Miss
Diogo Dalot £19 Miss

Zlatan Ibrahimvoic Free Hit
Nemanja Matic £40m Hit but only just
Fred £61.2m I thought he cost 40m? Hit

Ole:


Harry Maguire £80m Miss purely due to the price tag but i'm on the fence
Dan James £18m Miss
Odion Ighalo Loan Miss

Bruno Fernandes £67.7m Hit
Edinson Cavani Free Hit
Donny van de Beek £39 Hit
Aaron Wan-Bissaka £50m Hit

Facundo Pellistri Free Unknown
Alex Telles £15.4m Unknown
 

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Only players there I could see Fergie signing were Di Maria (who would’ve been great under Fergie as a winger), Zlatan (for the fearless leader he is), Bruno (for the quality and competitive streak), Martial (he loved investing in young players), and Maguire (for the quality and leadership).
 

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In the Premier League... he's played 261 total.

Averages about 40 games per full season he's been here.

Spanish Jones is an odd comment.
In a way that he's overpaid for his current role , a bench option at best. Not even bench option, he gets a rotational cup games during early stages.

He never sets the team alight, but seems to play enough good games to get contract extension.

Probably he wasn't as injury prone as Jones, but he's similar in the way that they are in the team racking up years but failed to contribute anything. Mata still contributes here and there, but a player of his supposed calibre and wages shouldn't be performing at this level.

Best to just sell him and invest the wages/money for someone that's actually dependable and actually contributing on weekly basis even as bench options. Mata is getting games because he's Juan Mata, too big of a name to ignore, too big of an elephant to fit into the team.
 

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In a way that he's overpaid for his current role , a bench option at best. Not even bench option, he gets a rotational cup games during early stages.

He never sets the team alight, but seems to play enough good games to get contract extension.

Probably he wasn't as injury prone as Jones, but he's similar in the way that they are in the team racking up years but failed to contribute anything. Mata still contributes here and there, but a player of his supposed calibre and wages shouldn't be performing at this level.

Best to just sell him and invest the wages/money for someone that's actually dependable and actually contributing on weekly basis even as bench options. Mata is getting games because he's Juan Mata, too big of a name to ignore, too big of an elephant to fit into the team.
Oh come on, he's done that on several occassions.

He's been here throughout our worst periods and has always found a way to contribute in less then great teams. Contributed to the few trophies we have won, and hell he's even contributed already this season.

Has he set the world alight? no... could we have expected more? definitely... but he has contribute throughout his time here and he's been a reliable squad member.

Also "probably wasn't as injury prone as Jones" ... probably?!?
 

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https://www.skysports.com/football/...-1bn-since-fergie-man-utds-transfers-assessed

Assume this is what prompted the post?

For me the only genuine success stories have been Ibra and Martial & even Martial still divides opinion. Shaw, Herrera, Blind, Matic have been solid first team players but hardly been amazing transfers. Personally I think Jose had the worst transfer record here of anyone and he shouldn't get credit for players like Fred or Lindelof becoming better once he'd left - he basically brought Ibra for free and then splurged like 400m on Pogba, Lukaku, Matic, Mkhi, Lindelof, Bailly, Dalot, Fred and the awful Sanchez swap. Absolutely terrible recruitment, especially when he couldn't get the best out of pretty much all of them.
 

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Not going to go through a full list but the two that have given the most 'value' there were probably freebies. Romero & Ibrahimovic.
 

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They've turned out pretty shit, overall. A lot of them seemed like decent buys at that time, so some are forgivable.
 

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There's been hits and misses, but we had that under Fergie as well. Fergies last signings weren't exactly resounding successes, his last 7 signings were:

Nick Powell - 6 mill
Kagawa - 12m
Sean Goss - 100k
RVP- 24M
Buttner - 3.9M
Angelo Henriquez -5m
Zaha - 10m
 

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Where are you getting those transfer fees from, the daily mail? jesus
 

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There's been hits and misses, but we had that under Fergie as well. Fergies last signings weren't exactly resounding successes, his last 7 signings were:

Nick Powell - 6 mill
Kagawa - 12m
Sean Goss - 100k
RVP- 24M
Buttner - 3.9M
Angelo Henriquez -5m
Zaha - 10m
I was thinking that not much has really changed bar the manager. The spend has gone way up but Fergie also signed plenty of duds/punts that didn’t work out over the years and let much better players go to our rivals. There’s no shame in that but we need to acknowledge it and it set us way behind once he retired. The problem is we’ve been forcing the issue since and have got no luck despite our intentions and investment. The scouting and management was crap. We finally got lucky with Bruno. hopefully he’s a catalyst for success and stability over the next few years.
 

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The biggest waste of money by far has been Pogba. Huge fee and big wages over 4.5 years. On transfer fee and wages, we’re looking at an outlay of £150 million plus. That is a spectacular failure when you look at the minimum return we will get for him.

Lukaku and Di Maria were failures but at least we recovered a decent fee on their sales.
 

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The biggest waste of money by far has been Pogba. Huge fee and big wages over 4.5 years. On transfer fee and wages, we’re looking at an outlay of £150 million plus. That is a spectacular failure when you look at the minimum return we will get for him.

Lukaku and Di Maria were failures but at least we recovered a decent fee on their sales.
he was integral to us (good and bad) until Bruno arrived. That was the position he played his best football for us in. Think of the other expensive flops since at other clubs. I don’t think he makes our worst ever transfer list but it’s still nowhere near what we expected... we will still hopefully get 50 for him and we can reinvest. I’d put it towards Camavinga. He’s the future.