Since SAF retired - Facts and figures for the Top 6

Igor Drefljak

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Season 2013/14
League Table
Premier league table
Man City - 86 (+1)
Liverpool - 84 (+5)
Chelsea - 82 (0)
Arsenal - 79 (0)
Everton - 72 (+1)
Tottenham - 69 (-1)
Man Utd - 64 (-6)

Managers
Man City - Manuel Pellegrini
Liverpool - Brendan Rodgers
Chelsea - Jose Mourinho
Arsenal - Arsene Wenger
Tottenham - Andre Villas-Boas - Tim Sherwood
Man Utd - David Moyes / Ryan Giggs(Caretaker)

Spendings
Man City
Transfer Expenditures: 104.5m
Transfer income: 10m
Net Spend: 94.5m

Man Utd
Transfer Expenditures: 69.5m
Transfer income: 1.5m
Net Spend: 68m

Chelsea
Transfer Expenditures: 117.5m
Transfer income: 69.5m
Net Spend: 48m

Arsenal
Transfer Expenditures: 44.5m
Transfer income: 11m
Net Spend: 33.5m

Liverpool
Transfer Expenditures: 52.5m
Transfer income: 29.5m
Net Spend: 23m

Tottenham
Transfer Expenditures: 109.5m
Transfer income: 122m
Net Spend: -12.5m

Season 2014/15
League Table
Premier league table
Chelsea - 87 (+2)
Man City - 79 (-1)
Arsenal - 75 (+1)
Man Utd - 70 (+3)
Tottenham - 64 (+1)
Liverpool - 62 (-4)

Managers
Chelsea - Jose Mourinho
Man City - Manuel Pellegrini
Arsenal - Arsene Wenger
Man Utd - Louis Van Gaal
Tottenham - Mauricio Pochettino
Liverpool - Brendan Rodgers

Spendings
Man Utd
Transfer Expenditures: 176m
Transfer income: 44.5m
Net Spend: 131.5m

Arsenal
Transfer Expenditures: 107m
Transfer income: 25m
Net Spend: 82m

Man City
Transfer Expenditures: 92.5m
Transfer income: 27.5m
Net Spend: 65m

Liverpool
Transfer Expenditures: 136.5m
Transfer income: 89.5m
Net Spend: 47m

Tottenham
Transfer Expenditures: 43.5m
Transfer income: 39.5m
Net Spend: 4m

Chelsea
Transfer Expenditures: 124m
Transfer income: 130.5m
Net Spend: -6.5m

Season 2015/16
League Table
Premier league table
Leicester - 81 (+13)
Arsenal - 71 (+1)
Tottenham - 70 (+2)
Man City - 66 (-2)
Man Utd - 66 (-1)
Southampton - 63 (+1)
West Ham - 62 (+5)
Liverpool - 60 (-2)
Stoke - 51 (0)
Chelsea - 50 (-9)

Managers
Arsenal - Arsene Wenger
Tottenham - Mauricio Pochettino
Man City - Manuel Pellegrini
Man Utd - Louis Van Gaal
Liverpool - Brendan Rodgers / Jurgen Klopp
Chelsea - Jose Mourinho / Guss Hiddink (Caretaker)

Spendings
Man City
Transfer Expenditures: 187.5m
Transfer income: 60.5m
Net Spend: 127m

Man Utd
Transfer Expenditures: 140.5m
Transfer income: 92m
Net Spend: 48.5m

Liverpool
Transfer Expenditures: 114m
Transfer income: 81.5m
Net Spend: 32.5m

Arsenal
Transfer Expenditures: 24m
Transfer income: 2.5m
Net Spend: 21.5m

Chelsea
Transfer Expenditures: 78.5m
Transfer income: 81.5m
Net Spend: 3m

Tottenham
Transfer Expenditures: 64m
Transfer income: 79m
Net Spend: -15m

Season 2016/17
League Table
Premier league table
Chelsea - 93 (+9)
Tottenham - 86 (+1)
Man City - 78 (+1)
Liverpool - 76 (+4)
Arsenal - 75 (-3)
Man Utd - 69 (-1)

Managers
Chelsea - Antonio Conte
Tottenham - Mauricio Pochettino
Man City - Pep Guardiola
Liverpool - Jurgen Klopp
Arsenal - Arsene Wenger
Man Utd - Jose Mourinho

Spendings
Man City
Transfer Expenditures: 192m
Transfer income: 32m
Net Spend: 160m

Man Utd
Transfer Expenditures: 166.5m
Transfer income: 42.5m
Net Spend: 124m

Arsenal
Transfer Expenditures: 101.5m
Transfer income: 9.5m
Net Spend: 92m

Tottenham
Transfer Expenditures: 75m
Transfer income: 47m
Net Spend: 28m

Chelsea
Transfer Expenditures: 119.5m
Transfer income: 97.5m
Net Spend: 22m

Liverpool
Transfer Expenditures: 72m
Transfer income: 77m
Net Spend: -5m

Season 2017/18
League Table
Premier league table
Man City - 100 (+2)
Man Utd - 81 (+4)
Tottenham - 77 (-1)
Liverpool - 75 (0)
Chelsea - 70 (-4)
Arsenal - 63 (-1)

Managers
Man City - Pep Guardiola
Man Utd - Jose Mourinho
Tottenham - Mauricio Pochettino
Liverpool - Jurgen Klopp
Chelsea - Antonio Conte
Arsenal - Arsene Wenger

Spendings
Man City
Transfer Expenditures: 286m
Transfer income: 82m
Net Spend: 204m

Man Utd
Transfer Expenditures: 178.5m
Transfer income: 41m
Net Spend: 137.5m

Chelsea
Transfer Expenditures: 234.5m
Transfer income: 180.5m
Net Spend: 54m

Tottenham
Transfer Expenditures: 109.5m
Transfer income: 93.5m
Net Spend: 16m

Arsenal
Transfer Expenditures: 137.5m
Transfer income: 140.5m
Net Spend: -3m

Liverpool
Transfer Expenditures: 156.5m
Transfer income: 175m
Net Spend: -18.5m

Season 2018/19
League Table
Premier league table
Man City - 98 (0)
Liverpool - 97 (+2)
Chelsea - 72 (+2)
Tottenham - 71 (-1)
Arsenal - 70 (+1)
Man Utd - 66 (-4)

Managers
Man City - Pep Guardiola
Liverpool - Jurgen Klopp
Chelsea - Maurizio Sarri
Tottenham - Mauricio Pochettino
Arsenal - Unai Emery
Man Utd - Jose Mourinho / Ole Gunnar Solskjaer

Spendings
Liverpool
Transfer Expenditures: 164m
Transfer income: 37m
Net Spend: 127m

Chelsea
Transfer Expenditures: 189m
Transfer income: 64.5m
Net Spend: 124.5m

Man Utd
Transfer Expenditures: 74.5m
Transfer income: 27.5m
Net Spend: 47m

Arsenal
Transfer Expenditures: 72m
Transfer income: 7.5m
Net Spend: 64.5m

Man City
Transfer Expenditures: 70.5m
Transfer income: 48.5m
Net Spend: 22m

Tottenham
Transfer Expenditures: 0m
Transfer income: 5m
Net Spend: -5m

Achievments 2013/19
Man City
Premier League Titles: 3
FA Cups: 1
League Cups: 4
Top 4 finishes: 6/6
At what cost: 672.5m (Actual player expenditures: 897m)
Using 2 Full time managers (1 sacked)

Chelsea
Premier League Titles: 2
FA Cups: 1
League cups:1
Europa League: 1
Top 4 finishes: 4/6
At what cost: 245m (Actual player expenditures: 863m)
Using 3 Full time managers (2 sacked)

Liverpool
Champions League: 1
Champions League runners up: 1
Europa League runners up: 1
Top 4 finishes: 4/6
At what cost: 206m (Actual player expenditures: 698.5m)
Using 2 Full time managers (1 sacked)

Arsenal:
FA Cups: 3
Europa League runners up: 1
Top 4 finishes: 3/6
At what cost: 290.5m (Actual player expenditures: 483.5m)
Using 2 Full time managers (0 sacked)

Man Utd:
FA Cups: 1
League Cups: 1
Europa League: 1
Top 4 finishes: 2/6
At what cost: 556.5m (Actual player expenditures: 805.5m)
Using 4 Full time managers (3 sacked)

Tottenham
Champions League runners up: 1
Top 4 finishes: 4/6
At what cost: 15.5m (Actual player expenditures: 401.5m)
Using 3 Full time managers (1 sacked)

Man Utd Academy Players (League games only)
Man Utd 2013/14
Adnan Januzaj - 27
Danny Welbeck - 25
Tom Cleverley - 22
Rafael - 19
Jonny Evans - 17
Ryan Giggs - 12
Darren Fletcher - 12
Fabio - 1
James Wilson - 1
Tom Lawrence - 1
Total: 137 Appearances

Man Utd 2014/15
Adnan Januzaj - 18
Paddy McNair - 16
Jonny Evans - 14
James Wilson - 13
Darren Fletcher - 11
Tyler Blackett - 11
Rafael - 10
Danny Welbeck - 2
Tom Cleverley - 1
Jesse Lingard - 1
Micheal Keane - 1
Tom Thorpe - 1
Andreas Pereira - 1
Total: 100 Appearances

Man Utd 2015/16
Jesse Lingard - 25
Marcus Rashford - 11
Cameron B-Jackson - 10
Paddy McNair - 8
Timothy F-Mensah - 8
Adnan Januzaj - 5
Andreas Pereira - 4
James Wilson - 1
Nick Powell - 1
James Weir - 1
Will Kean - 1
Total: 75 Appearances

Man Utd 2016/17
Marcus Rashford - 32
Jesse Lingard - 25
Timothy F-Mensah - 4
Axel Tuanzebe - 4
Scott McTominay - 2
Demetri Mitchell - 1
Joel Pereira - 1
Josh Harrop - 1
Angel Gomes 1
Total: 71 Appearances

Man Utd 2017/18
Marcus Rashford - 35
Jesse Lingard - 33
Scott Mctominay - 13
Axel Tuanzebe - 1
Total: 82 Appearances

Man Utd 2018/19
Marcus Rashford - 33
Jess Lingard - 27
Scott McTominay - 16
Andreas Pereira - 15
Mason Greenwood - 3
Tahith Chong - 2
Angel Gomes - 2
James Garner - 1
Total: 99 Appearances

I won't find the stats for other clubs as I'll probably make mistakes, but my opinion is over the course of the time, United will have fielded the most appearances from academy players of the top 6

Wages
I don't have any figures for this, but I'm going to take an educated guess at over the course of the 6 seasons, the wages paid by clubs will be in this order:
Man Utd
Man City
Chelsea
Liverpool
Arsenal




Tottenham

Tansfer stats sourced from: https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk
All other stats: Wikipedia

Why did I do this: It felt like a good idea last night while laid in bed. Was it a waste of time? Probably :lol:
 
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Neil_Buchanan

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That's a lot of stats. My first impression from looking is that Mourinho should have been backed properly after his second place finish. But then you look at our overall spend at over £800 million plus the fact that a Europa League win papered over a poor first season in the league for him. Then you see where he wants to spend the money (boateng,Perisic) and the result is inevitable. These stats clearly show how poorly and inconsistently we are being run as a club and they don't even tell the full story.

The academy players numbers are skewed a little from us hiring two managers with opposing philosophies on players young players.

Also, on paper Tottenham have performed genuine miracles to progress like they have.

And the quality on the managers has increased significantly.
 

Ibrahimorich

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What this tells me is that when we had a big summer one year, we needed another big summer the year after too, instead we've done a big summer followed by a measly one and failed to capitalise on any initiative we gained.
 

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What this shows is that what is most important is to have a well functioning organization and structure in place. By organisation and structure i relate this to everything in the football department apart from the players. Be it coaches, strategy, training facilities, data analytics etc.

And that at United this has not been the case.
 
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