So are the Glazers, at the least the three running the Club... its the two US based Glazers (sold their shares in United)who run sporting franchises... wouldn't you know it!
Sir Jim Ratcliffe: I want to buy Manchester United | Will make a bid for the club [Telegraph]
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Looking in the Casemiro thread, it appears that some are losing focus unfortunately
It's possible to be as hard as a totem pole and unhappy in a relationship at the same time.Looking in the Casemiro thread, it appears that some are losing focus unfortunately
If people do then the Glazers get what they want. WHich is continue to screw the club and fans.Looking in the Casemiro thread, it appears that some are losing focus unfortunately
It was actually the Rock of Gibraltar's fault.
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Gibraltar was between the rock and a hard place
Hear, hear G Nev
- Sources believe the biggest issue #Ratcliffe could encounter is the six Glazer siblings on the #MUFC board - Joel, Avram, Bryan, Edward, Kevin and Darcie - have total voting power.
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Hopefully a good offer will change the Glazers mind!!
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Hopefully a good offer will change the Glazers mind!!
Glazers are into property and bought a lot surrounding OT. One of the very few things they did well. So as part of their $6bn evaluation of the club, will be the future prospects of what can be done with the land that the club owns.
Neville has spoken before about Manchester United village and that is something he can deliver, with his contacts in the property game.
Gary has already proven he can deliver such types of projects, be it Hotel Football, Hotel Exchange or with his university.
They will sell. The only way to now rejuvenate the club is by putting in big investment into the infrastructure of the club...something that they're clearly have no appetite to do.
Although I don’t believe it, I hope The Glazers feel some form of responsibility to sell the club to someone who will improve it, like Abramovich did. It will determine their legacy.
Got 3000 SLR in my pocket, I'll take it!!
They won’t. They’ll want to sell to someone who’ll make it look like THEY were the better owners.
If it gets sold to ANYONE they’re connected to - US companies etc - it’ll get worse imo.
I actually think the Glazers resent Utd to a degree and will want the club to fail after they ‘leave’.
I put the word ‘leave’ in inverteds because I also think it’s possible that they ‘sell’ it but essentially remain involved.
You just need them out of your club and you need it sold to someone who isn’t American and has nothing at all to do with them.
Then why are the Glazers so inclined not to sell. If I was them I would sell. They wouldn't have to deal with those things anymore.
Knighton is out. His 7 million isn’t enough to take on Sir Jim’s 20 billion
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Doubt it, whilst I can disagree with quite a few of his opinions, he is as frustrated as any United fan, that is how low we have sunk or potentially will under current ownership.
Which one was Fergie?
Honestly what is the possibility of the British government forcing these leeches out of the club similar Abramovich style? Can fan protest force their hand or something?
Won't even enter their minds mate.
We'll have more joy focusing on the PL. Already existing rules prevent leveraged buyouts like the ones the Glazers pulled. So why not push them to make it retroactive and force them to sell?
Somewhere close to 0% chance, unfortunately.
That's my thinking, and to be honest Roman was 100times better owner than these parasites so nobody will be against that kind of action. I think fan action like massive protest and unrest might force their hand.
As a fan group we’ve got to stay on the #glazersout train and hope that Jim Ratcliffe puts an offer in the the American leeches can’t refuse!! We can not be distracted by any signings we make over the next few days. Glazers out could secure mufc’s long term success whilst a shiny new signing only gives us a lick of paint.
#glazersout
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Think this was my point, you dont hear about it
This forum chat is the most important one on redcafe. We must keep it trending at the top of the list. Every bit of pressure we put on the glazers can only help when it comes to them clearing off!!
a Jim Ratcliffe type owner will give us investment in:
- a fully renovated or new stadium
- best in class staff from top to bottom
- no more bankers running the football side of the club
- proper and considered investment into the 1st team
- investment into the youth teams
- state of the art training facilities
- a winning football mentality
how many of these will the glazers give the club????
#glazersout
a Jim Ratcliffe type owner will give us investment in:
- a fully renovated or new stadium
- best in class staff from top to bottom
- no more bankers running the football side of the club
- proper and considered investment into the 1st team
- investment into the youth teams
- state of the art training facilities
- a winning football mentality
how many of these will the glazers give the club????
#glazersout
Absolutely, he would rebuild the club from top to bottom and bring in the best people. It would also be a club built to entertain and win trophies. Not for money. WE NEED GLAZERS OUT
But literally everybody knew it was rumbling on in the background. It’s like saying the war in Ukraine isn’t happening because it isn’t dominating the news cycle any more.
Not defending the Glazer's but where is your evidence of the above? you don't make 15bn + by spunking several billion into a vanity project, if SIR Jim Ratcliffe is able to buy Utd I expect we will see better ownership but I would not bank on a bottomless pit of money being thrown at the club either, if he buys it will still be with a view to making money
If you think the Glazer's give two sihts about fan groups or being unpopular you are deluding yourself
Will the Glazer's sell? maybe 6bn in one go is tempting but the Glazer family own many businesses, properties, other sporting clubs etc... they use Utd as collateral to fund and back up their borrowing across all of their investment portfolio, it is their guaranteed banker, their lynchpin, selling Utd is bigger to them than just selling Utd it has massive impact on all their investments and the debts they have secured to finance their portfolio, everything they have would need to be refinanced and backed, not saying it will not happen just saying it is more complicated than just a straight sale
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Zero, they're not war criminals for gods sake.
Ratcliffe's well connected with that shower so there's nobody better placed to get a bit of legislative pressure applied. we all know they make up rules to suit their mates.
This thread needs to keep on going. But we need more news coming through on this.
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Need Elon to tweet!
i think they do care about fan groups, or at least how they are thought of. Why else would they suddenly want to spend money or at least put stories out that we are spending money. They are on the ropes I think and know that they are not wanted by the fans and that’s having a negative impact on sponsors and will impact future income for them. The fans need to unite and keep the pressure on, not think oh well we’ve got a couple of nice new signings and we can all forget about the glazers. If someone like Ratcliffe came in then after he has bought the club we could then be self sufficient. How much has been taken out by the glazers?? Around 2bn on loan and dividend payments? That’s a full renovation of OT and a new training ground right there, at the least. Put that together with proper football people running the football side of the club and we might actually be successful
Spend 300m and I'll definitely get behind the Glazers.
so I can kick them out of the fecking door once and for all.
so I can kick them out of the fecking door once and for all.
I think they are hoping that if they spend big in the next week or so that the fans will forget about a takeover. This is why we must do the opposite and get these parasites out
Well I admire your enthusiasm and uncorrupted view on life, I am just an old cynic, but the idea that the Glazers will ever do more than play lip service to fan popularity is naïve, the only reason they are spending money now is because they can see us facing relegation if they do not, but it is a sticking plaster on a compound fracture, they will always throw enough money (the clubs own money) at the club to keep it competitive in the league so they can continue to make money, that is all to think there is more to it is wishful but that is all, we could be burning effigy's of them and they would not bat an eyelid as long as the cow keeps giving milk.
Fair enough but you see in that case they would be *our* war criminals which makes the British government their accomplice which complicates things.
No, I think you’re right. I think theone and absolutely only thing they think about is maximism their financial input.