He's been owner of Nice for three years, they are now at a consistent level, a lot of the work at Nice has been done with longevity in mind, with heavy restrictions as to what they can spend on players.if all his done is taken Nice to upper mid table, in one of the lowest spending leagues in Europe. It’s not really a good sign.
I keep hearing that Ratcliffe hasn't done anything Nice and is by and large a poor owner, which to me couldn't be further from the truth.
He has stated (actually his brother has) several times that the investment into Nice is hampered by FFP restrictions, which is why they have made steady but unspectacular signings.
Most of their signings have been young players for future planning, Ratcliffe has improved the youth structure, training facilities and scouting networks at the club.
Also Ratcliffe has made it clear that Nice are just a stepping stone, a part of something bigger, he wants a third football team, a bigger team, so he can almost use Nice as a feeder style club rather like the red bull teams.
So whilst Nice haven't become a major force in France since the takeout, they have become a consistent upper mid table team with a steady foundation. They are severely hampered by their income which has stopped any major leaps but INEOS have made it clear that they are willing to keep putting in the money.
Seems like a step above the Glazers to me.
Thats a bit hard to do I reckon. They want the most money and be done with the club.This is when you hope the Glazers do their due diligence on who they want to sell the club to. And not try and extract the most ---- Someone who promises them $ 10 billion but whose package is heavily reliant on debt or someone who is cash rich and is offering $8Billion for example.
Pretty much. The superleague is who these people are, and fans scuppered their masterplan. They will happily sell us down the riverThats a bit hard to do I reckon. They want the most money and be done with the club.
Firstly he is entitled to believe in Brexit, as messed up as that may be, it was a democratic vote.He seems like a nice bloke. The sort of guys who first screw the country by backing Brexit and by polluting the areas his factories are and then he moves on to live in a tax free country.
Firstly he is entitled to believe in Brexit, as messed up as that may be, it was a democratic vote.
Secondly, his factory's environmental record is awful, hopefully it gets highlighted more.
Thirdly Man Utd for a while were based in the Cayman Islands, not sure of the shell company still is or not, so tax free havens isn't exactly alien to this club.
So yeah, anything else?
So we are on the look out for a Billionaire United fan who has never watched another team in his life, pays all of his taxes, has always used electric cars, is a vegan and never flies anywhere?He voted Brexit because new anti pollution laws would have hurt him. He has nothing against the EU. In fact he moved to Monaco. He also a United fan who also has a season ticket with Chelsea. Top bloke and a top red
So we are on the look out for a Billionaire United fan who has never watched another team in his life, pays all of his taxes, has always used electric cars, is a vegan and never flies anywhere?
Slim pickings for that one I fear.
He voted Brexit because like everyone else who voted for it they believed they'd prosper, alas we know that only the rich prosper from these things anyhow.
Monaco isn't in the EU also.
The worse kind of Brexiter imo. I agree it was a democratic vote and I don’t judge those that voted leave negatively based on their vote or desire to leave.He voted Brexit because new anti pollution laws would have hurt him. He has nothing against the EU. In fact he moved to Monaco. He also a United fan who also has a season ticket with Chelsea. Top bloke and a top red
Doubt if Dubai has the financial bandwidth to do the deal. They still own their cousins, Abu Dhabi a lot from the last financial crisis when they almost went belly-up if not for the intervention of their cuz.
They don't have any of the oil&gas resources like their cousins -- relying on real estate, finance and their charms to survive.
Same. And that’s what we will most likely get so happy days.All I want from an owner is somebody who can clear the debt, stop taking a huge dividend and let the club get on with it.
He voted Brexit because new anti pollution laws would have hurt him. He has nothing against the EU. In fact he moved to Monaco. He also a United fan who also has a season ticket with Chelsea. Top bloke and a top red
This guy was nice and gobby when United was unattainable. Now you can't get a word out of the cnut.
Need to dissolve all the bodies in there somehow.Not to mention him being fined for dumping caustic soda in the Manchester ship canal, no less.
He's literally said he will bid. What more do you want? He'd look daft talking over and over then failingThis guy was nice and gobby when United was unattainable. Now you can't get a word out of the cnut.
I would imagine majority of people vote due to a personal feeling and not because of a wider thought process.The worse kind of Brexiter imo. I agree it was a democratic vote and I don’t judge those that voted leave negatively based on their vote or desire to leave.
But the people I judge, other than those with clear racist views, are the rich & powerful who used their influence and vote for something that they didn’t believe was in the best interest of the nation knowing that they as individuals would not be effected by it.
He's literally said he will bid. What more do you want? He'd look daft talking over and over then failing
Yes I agree that’s why I don’t really judge the majority. It’s the few who voted Brexit, due to whatever business interest/motive, while at the same time securing residency abroad to retain all the benefits of the EU or buying those £2m passports EU passports that I resent.I would imagine majority of people vote due to a personal feeling and not because of a wider thought process.
He is nothing like the Glazers.My point is that if there's no decent rich guy out there to own us then we might as well go for someone who is filthy rich and can afford to take us to the next level and make us compete with the Dubai/Abu Dhabi guys. Ratcliffe looks to me more like the Nice/Lausanne-Sport version of the Glazers. But hey he can spot OT on a map.
Don't get me wrong, that boils my blood too, but alas that's the democratic principles we live by.Yes I agree that’s why I don’t really judge the majority. It’s the few who voted Brexit, due to whatever business interest/motive, while at the same time securing residency abroad to retain all the benefits of the EU or buying those £2m passports EU passports that I resent.
That’s the first part, they also have to be willing to be active in the running of the club by firing and hiring the best people to do that and not leaving total failures in a post because it’s easy to do soAll I want from an owner is somebody who can clear the debt, stop taking a huge dividend and let the club get on with it.
That’s the first part, they also have to be willing to be active in the running of the club by firing and hiring the best people to do that and not leaving total failures in a post because it’s easy to do so
Shouldn't this be factored into the equation for us?He is nothing like the Glazers.
He has put money into Nice for sure, however he didn't have to improve the ground or facilities as they were pretty new anyhow.
But INEOS has for sure put a fair bit of their own cash into the club and have improved the youth structure and scouting networks, again something the Glazers haven't done til now.
I'd say it's irrelevant, he's willing to carry on putting money into Nice and structuring the football side.Shouldn't this be factored into the equation for us?
Our needs are Nice times 20 or 30 though, especially with Newcastle on steroids, I am really worried.I'd say it's irrelevant, he's willing to carry on putting money into Nice and structuring the football side.
Who ever buys knows they need to improve facilities including the ground.
The Glazers know that too, the process has started.
Are you surprised? No one knew who he was before he was giving it large about buying United.This guy was nice and gobby when United was unattainable. Now you can't get a word out of the cnut.
Because Nice will mostly likely look to sell on young prospects and get big money for them, not because they want to break a monopoly on the league.He is nothing like the Glazers.
He has put money into Nice for sure, however he didn't have to improve the ground or facilities as they were pretty new anyhow.
But INEOS has for sure put a fair bit of their own cash into the club and have improved the youth structure and scouting networks, again something the Glazers haven't done til now.
Our needs are Nice times 20 or 30 though, especially with Newcastle on steroids, I am really worried.
I thought Nice finished second last year? Looking from a far that seems an alright achievement. Are there any other specific reasons why is he considered a bad owner for them?
Edit: They we're fifth. Still doesn't necessarily seem all that horrible.
Sigh, gonna be a ride ahead.Well in that case we bite the bullet with middle Eastern ownership which doesn't sit well with many people
See that's the problem. No one except state owned firms are going to spend 4-6 billions from their personal account. Every prospective buyer (again unless owned by state) will need lending for which the collateral will be the club itself. The moment you are lending, the debt is back on and we will have huge amount to pay back every year.All I want from an owner is somebody who can clear the debt, stop taking a huge dividend and let the club get on with it.
He is nothing like the Glazers.
He has put money into Nice for sure, however he didn't have to improve the ground or facilities as they were pretty new anyhow.
But INEOS has for sure put a fair bit of their own cash into the club and have improved the youth structure and scouting networks, again something the Glazers haven't done til now.
It’s going to happen I think, mostly because they want it more than anyone else. They have the most to gain also from buying United.Well in that case we bite the bullet with middle Eastern ownership which doesn't sit well with many people
