Six horses die at the Cheltenham Festival - Should Horseracing be banned?

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It was very harrowing to watch it happen because if you were watching pre race you’d have seen it being re-shoed promptly as the shoe come off just before the race started and you do wonder whether it was a rushed job to get it racing and what impact that had. Very sad to see that.
I saw that yeah, I don't know if it was anything to do with it but I do know in the race after one of the ITV hosts found a broken horse-shoe in front of a jump fence. I have no idea if any of these things are connected but it does seem oddly coincidental.
 

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I saw that yeah, I don't know if it was anything to do with it but I do know in the race after one of the ITV hosts found a broken horse-shoe in front of a jump fence. I have no idea if any of these things are connected but it does seem oddly coincidental.
Something obviously wasn’t right with it and it’s hard not to connect it to the problems it was having pre-race. They were all praising how calm it was too.
 

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Something obviously wasn’t right with it and it’s hard not to connect it to the problems it was having pre-race. They were all praising how calm it was too.
Very strange for sure
 

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Ban Show Jumping as well.
Equestrian in general pointless, poor horses don't want to be dancing.
 

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Something obviously wasn’t right with it and it’s hard not to connect it to the problems it was having pre-race. They were all praising how calm it was too.

Absolutely nothing to do with it . Replacing a shoe doesn't lead to breaking a leg ten mins later .

It took a jump and unfortunately missed his step and landed badly . The incidents had nothing to do with each other
 

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Absolutely nothing to do with it . Replacing a shoe doesn't lead to breaking a leg ten mins later .

It took a jump and unfortunately missed his step and landed badly . The incidents had nothing to do with each other
Depends if it was put on right doesn’t it?
 

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If 1 in 475 school children were going to die due to horrific injuries in a non-optional sporting event, & many more would be injured to life-altering levels, I'm pretty sure we'd not be saying "oh it's just a small number, peasant. Don't get so sentimental."
 

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If 1 in 475 school children were going to die due to horrific injuries in a non-optional sporting event, & many more would be injured to life-altering levels, I'm pretty sure we'd not be saying "oh it's just a small number, peasant. Don't get so sentimental."
I think if he really cares about these animals he'd consider 202 unnecessary deaths 202 too many.
 

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Depends if it was put on right doesn’t it?

Horses have run without shoes and this isn't a rare event for a horse to lose its shoe before a race .

Look what happened is tragic and yes it's cruel I felt sick all day after it and no I didn't have money on it .

However to suggest it's the fault of the guy who reshoed it or the owners for letting the horse continue to run is unfair

The horse was checked and it's just a sad accident
 

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Horses have run without shoes and this isn't a rare event for a horse to lose its shoe before a race .

Look what happened is tragic and yes it's cruel I felt sick all day after it and no I didn't have money on it .

However to suggest it's the fault of the guy who reshoed it or the owners for letting the horse continue to run is unfair

The horse was checked and it's just a sad accident
I’m not saying it was that guys fault. It’s not his choice if the horse should run but clearly something wasn’t right. I can’t believe it was a coincidence that it should break the same leg. It was an obviously an accident and I’m sure all involved regret racing it.

I’m not saying it should be banned by the way but I can see why people would.
 

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I’m not saying it was that guys fault. It’s not his choice if the horse should run but clearly something wasn’t right. I can’t believe it was a coincidence that it should break the same leg. It was an obviously an accident and I’m sure all involved regret racing it.

I’m not saying it should be banned by the way but I can see why people would.

I have heard he hurt his leg last week but I can't believe he would have passed all the checks if he had had a problem before today and after his shoe was fixed

Not at a meeting like Cheltenham at least
 

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If the races are banned... then perhaps most of these horses will be killed. These are not wild horses, they were bred for a specific purpose. They are expensive to maintain.
 

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Racehorses are bred to race . There's nothing else they can do . Once they break a leg they can't stand and are in too much pain
If they weren't racing they wouldn't be breaking their legs.
 

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That's a very small percentage when you look at the numbers. Not to mention that these animals are treated better than fecking humans.
That may be because he is counting all of the runners in the flat races too. If he counted just the hurdles races, which are the main cause of injuries/deaths, the stats might look quite different.

By far the most significant welfare problems arise from National Hunt racing, where horses jump Hurdle and Fence obstacles. As we’ve seen, NH courses are responsible for approximately 85 per cent of all the fatalities.
https://www.horsedeathwatch.com/downloads/DeathWatchone.pdf
They also state that 1 in 35 horses who start the season will be dead by the end of it.
 

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Erm and you know the so called act of parliament will be swayed by the opinions of rich people. The Queen is one of them.
Erm and you know then that these "rich people" of whom the Queen is one couldn't prevent the Hunting Act of 2004 a "so called" Act of Parliament that was fiercely resisted by those in favour of hunting foxes et al?
Erm and you know Fox hunting doesn’t make these folks rich. It just fed their egos. Just like those people who go on safari hunts to shoot Lions.

Banning horse racing will be hitting a lot of big pockets who will oppose it. It will also be hitting the governments pocket too.
What are you both, 5? :lol:
 

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I'd say to people who are appalled by this should make it known that they wont give there money to a bookmaker who participates in horse racing. The best way to make change is to hurt the people making money out of it in their pocket.
 

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I'd say to people who are appalled by this should make it known that they wont give there money to a bookmaker who participates in horse racing. The best way to make change is to hurt the people making money out of it in their pocket.
There would be racing even if there were no bookies taking bets on it. Many countries do not permit gambling but have a sizeable racing industry.
Bookies in this country now make much of their profits from other forms of betting such as football and casino style gambling machines.