Weeeeell for a CB to score he needs 2 elementsInteresting comparison. He got 13 goals and assists in the PL for United in 9 seasons. Maguire got 13 goals and assists in the PL in 3 seasons.
I still can't understand how LVG who was so obsessed with ball possession rated Smalling while good old little Ole did not.
0 for usInteresting comparison. He got 13 goals and assists in the PL for United in 9 seasons. Maguire got 13 goals and assists in the PL in 3 seasons.
They'll come.0 for us
I tend to think its because he's a better attacking centre back than Smalling. In the 3 seasons Maguire's played in the PL he has more goals and assists than any other centre back. That's between two clubs - Hull and Leicester.Weeeeell for a CB to score he needs 2 elements
a- he needs to be good in air
b- he needs somebody who can whip in a nasty cross.
Now Ekeke has quoted United's stats across time. You'll expect that Rojo, Lindelof, Bailly, Smalling and Jones were at the receiving end of the same quality of crosses. Maguire however has been at Leicester for most of the time. Could it be they have better crossers then we do?
It's only been a quarter of the season in fairness. He should of had a couple too, he's missed two big chances from corners already.0 for us
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The Giallorossi have prepared an initial bid in the region of €10 million, that could be submitted to the Red Devils in the coming days.
On the flipside, Roma have still a long way to go in the negotiations, as United have set their asking price at €20 million
Yes 4 goals is a lot and hes managed it twice. 1 goal is a lot compared to 90% of our CBs who usually get 0. And guess how many goals we have combined from our defenders this season - thats right 0
Lindelof scored 1 goal for Benfica, 1 goal for Sweden and 1 goal for United. He's in his 3rd season here
Rojo has scored 1 goal for Manchester United. He's in his 6th season here
Bailly has scored 1 goal for Manchester United. He's in his 4th season here
Jones has scored 4 goals for Manchester United. He's in his 9th season here
So yes Smalling's 12 goals in 9 seasons is a lot for a United CB
Rio managed 7
€10mil? They can't be serious.
Tactical preference made Smalling not be first choice, but under the right set up, he is a quality defender. Name me a defender who doesnt make mistakes. My question is, why would you prefer Rojo or Jones to be getting game time over Smalling? Heck, I'd say we would be performing better, defensively, of we had Smalling instead of Lindelof on there, who has already led to 2 goals against us by mistakes.Couldn't care less where he would 'kill it' as he clearly not good enough for United. Depends on your definition of defending, he's made countless mistakes in recent years; If his defending was as good as you think he'd still be at OT and not been shipped out to Roma.
Niall will be happy.Removed
Let's keep him that way.Niall will be happy.
Not really, as you Smalling often was the target for corners and free kicks, just like Maguire is now. The others take care of defending. Sometimes you move up both CBs but Smalling or Maguire is still the target.Weeeeell for a CB to score he needs 2 elements
a- he needs to be good in air
b- he needs somebody who can whip in a nasty cross.
Now Ekeke has quoted United's stats across time. You'll expect that Rojo, Lindelof, Bailly, Smalling and Jones were at the receiving end of the same quality of crosses. Maguire however has been at Leicester for most of the time. Could it be they have better crossers then we do?
Oh, does he do that? I must have missed that bit of his fine play.Of course he is a better defender than Lindelof. So when we have Maguire we need someone who can defend better. Let Maguire handle the starting of the attack.
He does sometimes, a lot more than Lindelof so he's obviously the one of the two you'd choose to play that roleOh, does he do that? I must have missed that bit of his fine play.
Well he is actually up there with the best in Italy but we wouldn't hesitate to go over there and sign Koulibaly or De Ligt to strengthen our defense. He was always a very capable defender but he isn't a ball player. Could it be that maybe Lindelöf and Ashley Young had a lot to do with our crap defense last season? I am happy for him to get out there and prove himself again, he seems to be enjoying his football .. surprise surpriseSo your basis on keeping Smalling is that he MIGHT score a goal.. forget all his defensive incapabilities.
Have you actually done a goals to appreances rather than goals only?
I guess Rio was a crap defender because he only managed 7 goals?
He is playing well in a high line and is looking decent on the ball tooWell he is actually up there with the best in Italy but we wouldn't hesitate to go over there and sign Koulibaly or De Ligt to strengthen our defense. He was always a very capable defender but he isn't a ball player. Could it be that maybe Lindelöf and Ashley Young had a lot to do with our crap defense last season? I am happy for him to get out there and prove himself again, he seems to be enjoying his football .. surprise surprise
He must be getting a lot more time on the ball as Smalling has been at United for nearly 10 years and played under 5 different managers and not improved on the ball at all.He is playing well in a high line and is looking decent on the ball too
He wasnt exactly bad on the ball to be honestHe must be getting a lot more time on the ball as Smalling has been at United for nearly 10 years and played under 5 different managers and not improved on the ball at all.
He did under LVGHe must be getting a lot more time on the ball as Smalling has been at United for nearly 10 years and played under 5 different managers and not improved on the ball at all.
He really was.He wasnt exactly bad on the ball to be honest
I think people need to get over this one. He's at Roma because he wanted game time and we wanted a subpar defender off our books. He's had nearly 10 years to show he's good enough here, if he's not managed it in that time a few good months in Serie A isn't going to change anything.
He has actually shown that he's good enough here. There was a period a few years ago when he was one of the better defenders in the league.I think people need to get over this one. He's at Roma because he wanted game time and we wanted a subpar defender off our books. He's had nearly 10 years to show he's good enough here, if he's not managed it in that time a few good months in Serie A isn't going to change anything.
Every manager we've had bar Moyes has made moves to replace him. Until now the replacements haven't been good enough or fit enough to actually do it, but it doesn't mean he has ever been good enough.He has actually shown that he's good enough here. There was a period a few years ago when he was one of the better defenders in the league.
Every manager we've had has also been sacked, so I'm not sure I would hang my hat on that one.Every manager we've had bar Moyes has made moves to replace him. Until now the replacements haven't been good enough or fit enough to actually do it, but it doesn't mean he has ever been good enough.
He was bloody terrible on the ball come off it man! Very good at pure defending, but cant pass a parcel!He wasnt exactly bad on the ball to be honest
That’s a good point. I think he would be the perfect player to have for certain matches and on the bench to increase power at the end of matches. But I think he is too good to sit on the bench, and that he doesn’t fit the way Ole wants to play, and can understand if he is not part of the plan to build a new United with younger players. The solution with Roma seems to work well and he has been playing well most of the matches.Every manager we've had has also been sacked, so I'm not sure I would hang my hat on that one.
Under LVG I don't think he was terrible on the ball, somehow this has been exaggerated. He wasn't great but he wasn't exactly bad either.He was bloody terrible on the ball come off it man! Very good at pure defending, but cant pass a parcel!
