I'm not crazy about it, but man, the drums on that track are killer, specifically in the chorus and then the breakdown at the end. Is it still Jimmy who drums for them?
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I thought it was alright. Nothing amazing or anything, but a decent enough song.
Yeah it's the original lineup minus D'arcy. I'm not sure if the other guy whose name I forget is still on guitar.
They performed on Jimmy Fallon last night
The live version of Solara is cool, better than the studio version.
The live version of Solara is cool, better than the studio version.
Best drummer of that generation, bar the guy from Tool and Dave Grohl. Though I’m a guitar player not a drummer, so take that with a grain of salt.
I forget who it was but some producer said Geek USA was the best drum performance he’d ever heard.
Heard Billy Corgan and James Iha getting interviewed by Howard Stern this morning. Billy Corgan is insufferable. Always comes across as an arrogant douchebag whenever I hear him speak.
This is so true
Ha. Same. I also play guitar, but like to think I know everything about the drums, despite being hopeless when I sit infront of a kit.
Grohl always seems to be a drummer guitar players like but drummers don't. I like his simplicity, it's rhythmic more than flashy, and he's a hard hitter, which is an understated quality.
I'm listening to Machina/The Machines of God for the first time. I wasn't sure what to expect given the mixed reviews, but I really like it so far.
It's common knowledge that he's a prat.
By all accounts a horrible man. Flashes of genius in his music though.
Loving the new song, great to have them back.
I always think Corgan comes across as quite a thoughtful soul, I like him.
I always think Corgan comes across as quite a thoughtful soul, I like him.
Am a drummer, Jimmy is outrageous. If you're curious about how technically good he is, check out his side project stuff where he's basically into insane jazz. Jimmy plays beats with excellent musicality mixed with sheer force and generally I love what he does because it not only fits but is also definitely him and impressive.
Danny Carey (Tool) on the other hand is like some strange alien that hears things in a different way to us mere mortals, and long ago abandoned any sense of common rhythm or time signatures in favour of just melting other drummers minds. I love what Jimmy does but I can generally replicate it if not 'hear' exactly what is going on. Some of the Tool stuff requires 20 minute videos to explain like 15 seconds of actual playing. He's absolute monster.
Sorry for the aside. Most musical drummer of this generation is Carter Beauford from DMB, even if you hate their music. And Dave Grohl is okay. Most semi-competent drummers can play virtually anything from Nirvana and the Foo. But Dave is consummate professional, awesome to play with, has great energy and by all accounts is basically worth having around at all times just because he improves all bands. He's like the Anderson of musicians.
Danny Carey (Tool) on the other hand is like some strange alien that hears things in a different way to us mere mortals, and long ago abandoned any sense of common rhythm or time signatures in favour of just melting other drummers minds. I love what Jimmy does but I can generally replicate it if not 'hear' exactly what is going on. Some of the Tool stuff requires 20 minute videos to explain like 15 seconds of actual playing. He's absolute monster.
Sorry for the aside. Most musical drummer of this generation is Carter Beauford from DMB, even if you hate their music. And Dave Grohl is okay. Most semi-competent drummers can play virtually anything from Nirvana and the Foo. But Dave is consummate professional, awesome to play with, has great energy and by all accounts is basically worth having around at all times just because he improves all bands. He's like the Anderson of musicians.
Sounding great IMO
I could listen to Mayonaise all day
I could listen to Mayonaise all day
@Olly
Have you ever listened to Maynard James Keenan’s stuff? He’s one of the very best artists in the alt rock/metal genre in my opinion.
Puscifer’s ‘Conditions of my Parole’, A Perfect Circle’s ‘Mer De Noms’ and Tool’s ‘Ænima’ are good starting points.
Have you ever listened to Maynard James Keenan’s stuff? He’s one of the very best artists in the alt rock/metal genre in my opinion.
Puscifer’s ‘Conditions of my Parole’, A Perfect Circle’s ‘Mer De Noms’ and Tool’s ‘Ænima’ are good starting points.
got tickets to their London show later this year, will be the first time ive seen them live. cant wait. Siamese dream and melon collie are a definite part of my youth
I haven't listened to any albums or anything but have heard random songs, never really enjoyed them though. That whole progressive, experimental thing doesn't do anything for me at all. I find it a bit too gloomy and depressing, but not in the good way. If "good" is the right word to use
He is a ‘difficult personality’. I’m reading his autobiography at the moment and it’s kind of like ‘so I was in one the most critically acclaimed metal bands of all time, but listen to all this other sh#t I’m amazing at!’I haven't listened to any albums or anything but have heard random songs, never really enjoyed them though. That whole progressive, experimental thing doesn't do anything for me at all. I find it a bit too gloomy and depressing, but not in the good way. If "good" is the right word to use
Despite his smugness I struggle to think of a better lyricist in modern music. ‘The Humbling River’ with Puscifer Is kind of perfect lyrically IMO. ‘Stink Fist’ with Tool, where he compares the excessives of modern life to anal fisting is hard to deny too.
Have a listen to ‘Conditions of my Parole’ as Puscifer aren’t experimental or progressive.
Sounds lovely.Just listened to it. Not really my kind of thing either I'm afraid, I just found it a bit weird and annoying. Sorry
I meant the album not the song but fair enough.
Just listened to it. Not really my kind of thing either I'm afraid, I just found it a bit weird and annoying. Sorry
Thanks for the insight, appreciate it! Any thoughts on Big Paul Ferguson? I know he is regarded highly by some..Am a drummer, Jimmy is outrageous. If you're curious about how technically good he is, check out his side project stuff where he's basically into insane jazz. Jimmy plays beats with excellent musicality mixed with sheer force and generally I love what he does because it not only fits but is also definitely him and impressive.
Danny Carey (Tool) on the other hand is like some strange alien that hears things in a different way to us mere mortals, and long ago abandoned any sense of common rhythm or time signatures in favour of just melting other drummers minds. I love what Jimmy does but I can generally replicate it if not 'hear' exactly what is going on. Some of the Tool stuff requires 20 minute videos to explain like 15 seconds of actual playing. He's absolute monster.
Sorry for the aside. Most musical drummer of this generation is Carter Beauford from DMB, even if you hate their music. And Dave Grohl is okay. Most semi-competent drummers can play virtually anything from Nirvana and the Foo. But Dave is consummate professional, awesome to play with, has great energy and by all accounts is basically worth having around at all times just because he improves all bands. He's like the Anderson of musicians.
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Funny band, for me. The stuff I like (Probably 2-3 songs per album) I really like. Tales of a Scorched Earth, for example, was my 'smash sh@t up' song for a good while. 1979, Stumbleine, etc... Wonderfully miserable. Vast swathes of it I'm also largely indifferent to. Certainly one of the better and more inventive bands that grew big in that time though, imo.
Ditto. Any guitarists or general musos that want to learn or brush up on their theory should check out Rick's channel. Great teacher.
Just got the Rarities and B-Sides album. Jesus, are there enough songs on here Great stuff though!
Great stuff though!New song
I like this a lot!
There's also a new album coming in November.
I like this a lot!
There's also a new album coming in November.
Just listened to the new album. I think it's good. Nothing amazing or anything, but it's pretty consistent good listening, the kind I'd play in the in the car and enjoy as a whole. I reckon the 73 Metacritic it's got at the moment is about right based on my first listen.
Traveled over to London last month for their show. 3 hours of brilliance. Looking forward to hearing the new album.
Part of the soundtrack to my youth. Listening to Siamese Dreams on repeat......
What's funny @Olly is that the only Mayonnaise I really like is by Smashing Pumpkins.
I was there too. really enjoyed it.
I had it on repeat on my discman for a year when I lived in Germany. Siamese, Rid of me and Breeders Last splash was a great year really. The next year wasnt that bad either with Superunknown , Weezer, Dummy, Crooked Rain x2 and last but not least Built to Spill's There's nothing wrong with love .. Fecking great times.
Such a good song
The new album is surprisingly good.
I had it on repeat for a couple of months this summer
Yeah that was deffo a great time for music. It's great going back and catching up on the ones I missed back then.
It sure is much better than the dross that is being released as music today, or at least most of it.I had it on repeat for a couple of months this summer
Yeah that was deffo a great time for music. It's great going back and catching up on the ones I missed back then.
Do they still do a ridiculously fast version of bullet w butterfly wings?
The old stuff is class but the stuff they've brought out since their comeback has been bobbins.