The last time Spurs finished at least 3rd prior to him was 1989-90! He's finished 3rd, 2nd and 3rd in his last three seasons. Lets not forget the job he is doing with them in Europe also, they are slowly gaining traction in the Champions league. They had an extremely difficult group last season with Real and Dortmund and guess what Paul, they finished top of the group by 3pts. They beat Dortmund 3-1 & 2-1, drew with Real away 1-1. Then drew with Juve away in the next stage. By no means a failure in my mind when you look at them results.
Didn't get much easier for them this year either in the group stage with Barca, Inter & PSV. Yet they finished 2nd and qualified again even if it was by the skin of their teeth, good result against Inter and more so vs Barca at the Nou Camp. They've got Dortmund again now and they shouldn't really fear them considering they beat them twice last time around and they could be in the QF's then.
Those players are as great as they are most likely due to his coaching ability, I mean why should anyone think otherwise when you consider this, how many players who have played for him have regressed and now think of how many have improved? I was making this point whilst all the Jose in brigade were having none of it.
Would Kane, Alli, Erikson, Dier, Toby etc etc be the players they are now if they were guided by Sherwood, AVB or Redknapp (the previous 3 Spurs managers)?
It's a feckin daft thought process when you think about it, we apparently had a world class, serial winning manager in Jose and yet every single player regressed under his tenure ultimately. Great managers like Poch bring out the very best in them. How on earth can you summarize that its basically a fluke for Poch and yet ignore how well drilled a team they are and how well that team is balanced throughout. He's invested wisely and integrates them into the team brilliantly along with talented youth also.
LVG and Jose were two of the most successful managers in recent times and neither could do the job here ultimately so why is success that important in our job spec?
The reality is this, he's spent an absolute pittance at Spurs so I think expectations of him winning it are a farce bar one season where it was a freak occurrence and yeah as I said they messed it up at the end. It happens to all managers at some time or another. A Champions League isn't impossible as cup competitions have an element of luck about them (luck of the draw?), but its a big ask still you'd think.
That leaves the FA Cup and League Cup, both are possible of course but he seems to sacrifice those competitions to remain competitive in the Premier league. Money talks and a 2nd or 3rd place finish is worth a tonne more than a league or fa cup win. Hell even mid table teams like Leicester and the like often field weakened teams in this competitions now in favor of keeping top players fit for the premier league.
Jose couldn't handle it cause he's a narcissistic and after his Real stint he was finished, the death rattle was his title win with Chelsea. Jose was never right for United, ever. He's negative and his football never suited, nor his ignorance towards youth. Poch on the other hand seems very well liked due to his warm nature and positive outlook. He focuses on youth and clearly builds good teams that place well drilled attacking football with exciting wide players... isn't that basically the exact profile for a United manager?