OldRed1
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He doesn't have Pogba anymore to vent his bile on so now it's Martinez. What a Richard Cranium.
Good to see you around. Over 20 years since we were discussing swimming etc.He doesn't have Pogba anymore to vent his bile on so now it's Martinez. What a Richard Cranium.
In this same video or clip he talks about Martinez, he goes on to say that Maguires been treated badly and has had bad partners.Does he ever have a go at Maguire? Just wondering.
No, he doesnt. Yes he is a weirdo, but dont go that route...But no issue with Maguire…
Seems to have an issue with tall, brown guys doesn’t he?
Nah. He just hates womenBut no issue with Maguire…
Seems to have an issue with tall, brown guys doesn’t he?
Martinez? Not sure you’ve got this right.But no issue with Maguire…
Seems to have an issue with tall, brown guys doesn’t he?
It seems more like a Maguire agenda.This is totally a Liverpool fan agenda. The circus around United in the media is next level and him + talksport is the epitome of this!
Totally, I read it as Varane!Martinez? Not sure you’ve got this right.
Despite the evidence, don't go that route Why not? He's demonstrated prejudice even against women's football and not retracted his statement or apologised even in retrospect. Is it not likely he has bias in other areas?No, he doesnt. Yes he is a weirdo, but dont go that route...
In fairness we all had an issue with Varane last season! Hoping him and Martinez turn into a high quality partnership this year.Totally, I read it as Varane!
Evidence of what? He has been slagging off many players, with all kind of skin colorDespite the evidence, don't go that route Why not? He's demonstrated prejudice even against women's football and not retracted his statement or apologised even in retrospect. Is it not likely he has bias in other areas?
hypothetically , they are all 23 years old, 30 million and available but we won't buy them shall we as they are too small Mr Souness? their names are Dani Alves. Marscherano, Cannavaro.Passarela,BaresiI could see him being right about Martinez in the long run (people are getting carried away as usual), of course that won't change the fact of his weird Pogba fixation, but we'll see.
I think if you slag off a person for holding a bias he has not shown, based on him being biased in other matters, you are doing bias 2.0 yourself. And you wouldn’t wan’t anyone to say ‘fluctuation0161 likely has bias in other areas too’?Despite the evidence, don't go that route Why not? He's demonstrated prejudice even against women's football and not retracted his statement or apologised even in retrospect. Is it not likely he has bias in other areas?
He explained what he meant and an apology wasn't really necessary. Most people realised Carney and Carragher were laughing at the double entendre rather than reacting to a perceived slight.Despite the evidence, don't go that route Why not? He's demonstrated prejudice even against women's football and not retracted his statement or apologised even in retrospect. Is it not likely he has bias in other areas?
You're trying too hard here. Though I don't always agree with his footballing opinions, Souness always strikes me as someone who actually has well-grounded morals.Despite the evidence, don't go that route Why not? He's demonstrated prejudice even against women's football and not retracted his statement or apologised even in retrospect. Is it not likely he has bias in other areas?
Martinez? Not sure you’ve got this right.
Totally, I read it as Varane!
So in other words all his partners have been foreigners.In this same video or clip he talks about Martinez, he goes on to say that Maguires been treated badly and has had bad partners.
Ugh that rant is so annoying. As others have said, as soon as he doesn't win an aerial duel everyone will be saying "I told you so", ignoring the fact that literally every defender loses aerial duels.
Honestly I haven't been as immediately impressed with a center back in years, as I am with Martinez. That includes Varane last year and our 80 million pound captain.
He was right that a £90m player should be getting 5 assists a game but when he was asked about Grealish he was like, he is a fantastic player whilst contributing nothing.Unpopular opnion, but he was right about Pogba. And I don't think he is wrong about Martinez. There are going to be games where he struggles to cope with big physical strikers.
Luckily for him he hasn't really faced any in the last 2 games so he has looked good, also in those games we have mostly sat deep and never really got into a high line so its much easier to defend.
I'm not writing him off, but the jury is definitely still out.
What has grealish got to do with anything? He didnt like pogbas attitude questioned his commitment and mentality, he wasn't wrong about that. He did have attitude, commitment and mentality issues. He went over the top with his critiscm but he just really didn't like him and thought he was overrated and thought far too much of himself. Again he's not wrong in that assessment.He was right that a £90m player should be getting 5 assists a game but when he was asked about Grealish he was like, he is a fantastic player whilst contributing nothing.
He isn't wrong about Martinez? He said he specialises in nothing.
Also, people talking about Martinez struggling to cope against big physical strikers, yes, that will happen. It happens to Maguire who is not 5'9. Haaland has been bullying every defender, even taller ones.
Just because a defender is taller, does not mean they wont get bullied by a big physical striker, I have seen the best defenders get bullied.
If a ST has a good game against Martinez, its not just because he is small, the strikers are actually good at times too.
You said Souness was right about Pogba. Go have a look at the sky sports pre game, City v Spurs last season when United beat Leeds and Pogba got 4 assists.What has grealish got to do with anything? He didnt like pogbas attitude questioned his commitment and mentality, he wasn't wrong about that. He did have attitude, commitment and mentality issues. He went over the top with his critiscm but he just really didn't like him and thought he was overrated and thought far too much of himself. Again he's not wrong in that assessment.
In terms of martinez the issue will be the high balls/aerial duels that he dosent attempt to win, because he knows he cant win them. How well he then deals with those second balls will be make or break him. Jury is still out on that at the moment.
All the advantages lie with the striker he’s the one who knows the next move so yes defenders are always up against better footballers knowing their next move. Also where is Souness criticising VVD lately as they endured an awful start. Their fans are calling his performances out for what they’ve been…”lazy”. Instead he says nothing and Liverpool as expected pick up again and that period never happened. The problem is our social media team is garbage. They should be constantly mocking these stories and batting them away.He was right that a £90m player should be getting 5 assists a game but when he was asked about Grealish he was like, he is a fantastic player whilst contributing nothing.
He isn't wrong about Martinez? He said he specialises in nothing.
Also, people talking about Martinez struggling to cope against big physical strikers, yes, that will happen. It happens to Maguire who is not 5'9. Haaland has been bullying every defender, even taller ones.
Just because a defender is taller, does not mean they wont get bullied by a big physical striker, I have seen the best defenders get bullied.
If a ST has a good game against Martinez, its not just because he is small, the strikers are actually good at times too.
People are acting as if the Dutch league has no big attackers, the CL not having them.All the advantages lie with the striker he’s the one who knows the next move so yes defenders are always up against better footballers knowing their next move. Also where is Souness criticising VVD lately as they endured an awful start. Their fans are calling his performances out for what they’ve been…”lazy”. Instead he says nothing and Liverpool as expected pick up again and that period never happened. The problem is our social media team is garbage. They should be constantly mocking these stories and batting them away.
If the term "playing favorites" was a personIn this same video or clip he talks about Martinez, he goes on to say that Maguires been treated badly and has had bad partners.