As has already been reported, the country's infrastructure is a mess. No way can they handle a WC.
From today's LA Times:
From today's LA Times:
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South Africa World Cup Will Be A Disaster
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what would be the country(ies) on fifa's shortlist if they had to stage a world cup on short notice?
1. mexico (blatter would try his hardest that it didn't come back to europe for 2010). world cup's already been here 3 times
2. US
3. France (platini influence)
4. Spain
5. UK
I left germany off because it would be too easy of an answer regarding infrastructure and it would be a very last resort IMO since they just hosted it.
1. mexico (blatter would try his hardest that it didn't come back to europe for 2010). world cup's already been here 3 times
2. US
3. France (platini influence)
4. Spain
5. UK
I left germany off because it would be too easy of an answer regarding infrastructure and it would be a very last resort IMO since they just hosted it.
6. Japan
7. Italy
7. Italy
Australia's got a feckload of stadiums and have done the Olympics and Commonwealth Games within the millenium, however they would have to relax the rules a bit regarding one stadium per city, and perhaps the sizes.
isnt 2014 looking like being a mess as well... not even decided which cities will host games let alone started improving stadiums & transport
http://www.2018england.co.uk/index.php looks like it might have a good chance... though i sispect the olympics will go off perfectly in china and they will get the 2018 world cup
http://www.2018england.co.uk/index.php looks like it might have a good chance... though i sispect the olympics will go off perfectly in china and they will get the 2018 world cup
We could host one tomorrow if need be, especially if you extended it to the UK instead of just England
Elland Road
Liverpool/Everton's new stadium, or Anfield
Old Trafford
St. James'
Stadium of Light
Villa Park
Stamford Bridge
The Emirates
Wembley
If you opened it up to the UK and/or relaxed the rules on 1 stadium per city you could add Parkhead, Goodison, Ibrox, Hampden, COMS, Stamford Bridge, White Hart Lane and the Millennium to that.
Elland Road
Liverpool/Everton's new stadium, or Anfield
Old Trafford
St. James'
Stadium of Light
Villa Park
Stamford Bridge
The Emirates
Wembley
If you opened it up to the UK and/or relaxed the rules on 1 stadium per city you could add Parkhead, Goodison, Ibrox, Hampden, COMS, Stamford Bridge, White Hart Lane and the Millennium to that.
Well, people always predict these things to go wrong - Athens 2004 was supposed to be a disaster as well - and they always tend to come along nicely in the end. Probably because the host country has got so much to lose it can't afford failure.
dont panic touches well be issued at all major airports on arrival
i hired a car in south africa once...
you go throught the normal we drive on this side of the road our speed limit is blah blah...
they they pulled me to one side and said... look your in a bmw its a nice car... if its late at night and there is a red light and people standing around it just drive through as they are probably looking to car jack you... if somebody then steps out in front if the car accelerate and go over them...do not stop just keep on going... NICE!... didnt drive round much at night after that warning... so id say torches might be somewhere down the list after a stun gun and pepper spray...
i could have told you all that years before they decided to run for it
Germany is actually high on the standby list, because fifa know it would take no effort in having it there
Germany is actually high on the standby list, because fifa know it would take no effort in having it there
Didn't a story come out that FIFA had a back up plan?
China won't dare trying to host the World Cup until they sort their team out a little. If they hosted a World Cup, they would not only create history as the first hosts not to make the 2nd round, I'd even bet they'd be the first hosts not to score a single point or perhaps even get a single goal in the 3 games.
China is worst than your 3rd tier European sides like Finland and Austria.
you might be right... but if they do put a bid in they would be in with a good shout i recon...
they will have Dong in his prime, they will be world beaters
Why not Canada, everyone forgets about us. It would have to be spread out throughout the country ranging from Vancouver, to Calgary to Toronto and to Montreal. It would unite the country and build some excitment about football. We did a marvelous job in the Youth World Cup, we set attendance records. Toronto is the most mutli cultural city in the entire world and Montreal and Vancouver are up there as well. When Italy won the world cup and Greece won Euro, thousands of fans poured into the streets, every nation in the world is represented in good numbers in Toronto. IT woud create an absulutely amazing atmosphere when they mix with the foreign supports. Our infrastructure is top not accross the nation and everyone knows Canada is probably the safest country out there. Football, or 'soccer' would explode here and maybe Hargreaves would play for his native Canada and not for England. He would make a HUGE difference for us.
The Chinese mentality is that they do not want to lose face, and they certainly would not want to dubious "honour" of being the first hosts to feck up completely.Hmm... let's see, Canada are about as bad as China - so unless you want the dubious honous of being the first hosts ever to fail to make the 2nd round... not a great idea...
I second that, I have wanted to see a World Cup bid from Australia since the 06 World Cup, when I became a "Soccaroo" fan
does canada have enough cities/major stadiums like germany, uk, us have? fifa have a 1 stadium per city rule and some seating rules that might take australia and canada out of the running.
guess we will see if they bid or not but i hope it comes to england!
yeah but from a marketing therefore fifas view china would be a good option...
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the games will hold in SA, people really need to get off their backs. First it was the grounds, newspapers were saying they wouldnt be finished on schedule. Not that they have been proven wrong they've found something else to jump on.
It was the same for greece just before the olympics but that went off without much of a hitch.
It was the same for greece just before the olympics but that went off without much of a hitch.
To be honest Souh Africa is a hell hole and you'll be lucky to come out of it with your lives.
I am seriously looking at whether I should go on the Lions Tours next year. I value my life more then the Rugby
I am seriously looking at whether I should go on the Lions Tours next year. I value my life more then the Rugby
Difference between Greece and South Africa is that a lot of South Africa is lawless, even in the cities like Jo'burg. I deal with South African clients on a daily basis and most of them think that WC 2010 could be a disaster there.
I would be surprised if FIFA doesn't take the opportunity to have it in the US if South Africa doesn't work out.
Would be really interesting to see the WC in OZ, however if they got the WC all the games would be on the night here and i would hate that!
Thats the thing. It would be awkward for us watching the games. Or we'd be locked in the pub at half ten in the morning watching the matches.
I know the problems that we are experiencing here in S.A. but come the world cup South Africa will host the world cup and a bloody good one at that. But please any of you guys coming from most places in Europe , the States and any other 1st world country, don't think that its going to be has good has the cup in Germany or even Japan.
Understand that South Africa is relatively new democracy and we are experiencing problems. But please it would be like having a world cup played in Brazil and comparing it to one held in the States . South Africa has it fair share of problems over the last few decades and continues to overcome them and the problems that we are experiencing now should and well be over come.
This World Cup means so much not only to South Africa but to Africa has a whole. Come on 2010 you will be pleasantly surprised.
Understand that South Africa is relatively new democracy and we are experiencing problems. But please it would be like having a world cup played in Brazil and comparing it to one held in the States . South Africa has it fair share of problems over the last few decades and continues to overcome them and the problems that we are experiencing now should and well be over come.
This World Cup means so much not only to South Africa but to Africa has a whole. Come on 2010 you will be pleasantly surprised.
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Sensible. From what I gather, it appears that there are people on these boards that have never been happy with the decision to make SA the hosts.Some have a chip on their shoulder (why an African country first before say India or Ireland?). Indeed some are always looking for a stick to beat SA with. For what its worth, I'm sure things will be all right when it really matters. Security concerns? people should remember the 1995 rugby world cup. Violent crime was still pretty heavy back then too and yet such was the security that things went along almost smoothly.
African country before India?
Wha?
No body on this board has ever or will ever profess India to host the WC. We won't even be ready to host the thing in next 20 years.
Um, you're a cock.
It feel wrong seeing the games in the morning or night, as it was when the WC was in Korea/Japan, we played england at 10 in the morning. Had to get up really early and start drinking in the morning.
U Sir r a Cuntcoat! why the feck is he (baz) a cock when he expresses his opinion?
Is this the same Italy which lost out on the 2012 Euros to Ukraine/Poland because of crowd disorder problems? The same Italy where the police go round beating up and even shooting fans? You're living in dreamland mate.
Cos he likes Rugby Union?
Have you ever been there?
I'd bet the title to my truck that the US would be awarded on short notice (citing the 300 million population of immigrants and descendants, big money sponsors, stadia, ability to setup large event quickly, etc., time zone not being a huge hinderance to European viewers).
Though FIFA being the crooks they are might "award" it to Italy.
It will stay in South Africa, IMO, as this is clearly a PC/P-R thing. Personally, I think FIFA should have had a co-host with SA, like Egypt or Morocco.
Ha, try viewing matches between 2-8am to catch my nation in 2002 (USA).
Well, co-hosts are usually neighbouring countries, SA and Egypt or Morocco are a whole continent apart.
They're all African countries. Just because one is in the north and the latter in the south shouldn't matter. It's like complaining because New York hosts one group and California another group. Same continent yet three time zones away. At least Africa is close in time zones between say Morocco and South Africa.
Despite having driven round Jo'burg (and Deptford) at night the only place I've ever had to put my foot to the boards and go through a red scattering a few chaps was in North Philly.
The same could be said of most of the EU. And the time zone here would be ideal for people like me, seeing as I live here.
I was talking some plum at work the other day who suggested that England holds a 64 nation World Cup in 2018.
That sort of dilutes the tournament to have that many nations. I have heard of intercontinental draws starting 2-3 years prior and culminating in 16 nations in the World Cup. FIFA has 208 member nations, so something like...
Year 1 - Prelims: bottom ranked 32 nations in home-and-away legs, 16 advance to intercontinental draw
Year 1 - 32 groups of 6 (10 matches), 64 nations advance
Year 2 - 16 groups of 4, (6 matches), 32 advance
Year 2 or 3 - 32 nations meet in home-and-away legs, 16 advance
Will never happen (logistics, club schedules, money) but would definitely "weed out the weeds."
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