But you've since said the punishment could be community service, so it doesn't seem it was the length of punishment that was the issue, rather the punishment. Maybe I presumed that though.
I just couldn't imagine a prison sentence of that length for saying something.
It hasn't been serious enough before. Now, undoubtedly, people will consider this too serious.
I guess context might be important as well. In the context of South Africa, democracy and apartheid (which only ended 20 odd years ago) - that “k” word is more than just a word, in fairness. I represents much more.
Well in that case I wouldn't say that any of us are sufficiently developed but I wouldn't hold the USA as any beacon of enlightenment
How is the water crisis in CapeTown ? Still a problem ?
Well in that case I wouldn't say that any of us are sufficiently developed but I wouldn't hold the USA as any beacon of enlightenment
Glass houses and stones and all that Oates Still a problem. Day zero (which was when they’re gonna switch our taps off and we’re aupoised to go Q for water ffs) have been moved back from March 2018 (initial) to sometime in 2019 because “the population” has done its bit to alleviate the crisis. I think it was an initial scare tactic tbh. But consumption is supposedly down to 50 liters per person per day....that’s what we’re currently on - so at least we’re not queuing for water (yet), we’re still clean (3 min showers
) and our clothes are still clean. Swimming pools are non existent though.Oh I know but at the very least we don't threaten to visit another country with our assault rifles just to shoot the medics and lawyers
We still have a long way to go before we could even attempt to visit other countries tbhOh I know but at the very least we don't threaten to visit another country with our assault rifles just to shoot the medics and lawyers
We much prefer to shoot ourselves in the feet.
SA has been getting considerably worse in recent years. It would be nice if this was the start of something new but i have my doubts.
Is there a limit on the principle of deterrence for you? Why not just execute them for instance. That should deter them more effectively than 3 years in jail no?
Yeah. Or maybe just kill everyone in case they ever want to be racist in the future.
Bit cynical.
I just think it's odd to say 'racial slur', when she's racially abused a Police officer to their face...!
Not sure how it is in other countries, but in Holland you get a very serious fine and a night in jail for insulting a police officer. Doesn't have to be racist either, just shouting abuse.
Still, better than being shot dead tho right?Not sure how it is in other countries, but in Holland you get a very serious fine and a night in jail for insulting a police officer. Doesn't have to be racist either, just shouting abuse.
Hung over, in jail, with a huge fine.
Like a triple whammy
Quite so, that’s why I don’t find it at all shocking that this person is more harshly punished than she would ve been if it werent a cop. We are known for being a relatively lenient country when it comes to the punishment of criminals, but even here you cant shout abuse at a police officer, whilst doing the same against a civilian doesnt land you in jail.
There is a huge difference between simply using bad words and racial vilification. I'm not saying the sentence is or isn't fair as I know nothing of the case.
It does in many countries and even where there isn't a cop specific offence then offensive language in public or racial abuse offences are far more likely to be prosecuted when directed at cops.
Done. My first reaction was that it wouldn’t or shouldn’t have made a difference - racism is racism, whether it was to a police officer or to a any member of the public. The focus should be on “racism” and not who it victimized. But point taken though. I’d say in any society - the punishment is harsher if a crime is committed against a police officer.
I don't disagree, however I think it must be that more relevant in a country where black people have been for so long subjugated so viciously and now with people who still cannot get past their ignorant behaviour it should apply wherever it happens. Most probably the sentence is a result of it being toward a police officer, an example is being made.
What are you the gatekeeper of, by the way?
I used to be the link between down there and up here. The Almighty Hectic appointed me the task, but I resigned and was taken up.
Yep. Agreed.
A thankless task, I am sure.
