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South Korean media reports that Son was racially abused by Ole
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
....Am I racist for laughing at this "news"?
I'm reporting you. Racism is nothing to laugh at
You can have both, though. You can take racial abuse extremely seriously while still condemning those who lie about it. Suing the Korean paper here wouldn't detract from the battle against actual racism.
It's like the Cavani thing. People said he should shut up and take the punishment so as not to undermine the FA's anti-racism effort, but an innocent person is still entitled to point out when they are being accused of something false.
I'm fairly sure most of them are the second kind. I doubt many of them actually have any sort of strong feelings about black people or Asian people. It's just about getting a rise to them. That's why, if social media sites introduced bans for racist abuse, most of these trolls wouldn't bother any more. Not worth getting banned for something they don't actually care about.
I don't know, that sounds made up to me.
It's been a lot longer that 24hrs mate, he broke another footballer leg, and then tried kick out at another.
Challenge accepted.
Yeah, sure, absolutely.
Also, not being given food by a Norwegian may not be the worst thing that can happen to you. Considering some of the things being eaten there.
https://www.google.no/imgres?imgurl...hUKEwjLtPL6uPvvAhUsl4sKHdIdBEsQMygEegUIARC_AQ
https://www.google.no/imgres?imgurl...hUKEwjLtPL6uPvvAhUsl4sKHdIdBEsQMygEegUIARC_AQ
Yep. Again, per these two posts (one of which might be ironic) -
- And this one:
- none of the Korean headlines or articles are saying anything at all about Ole saying anything racist. I don't know what the caf's exposure is on something like this, so who knows how prudent it would be to change the thread title or if it even matters after the time elapsed.
I don't know either, but I think the powers that be on here are no fools on the matter, if it had needed to come down they would have done it by now. Sorry for my outbreak of drama-queen lurgy, it was late
Yours was the one I thought might be ironic/kidding.I don't know either, but I think the powers that be on here are no fools on the matter, if it had needed to come down they would have done it by now. Sorry for my outbreak of drama-queen lurgy, it was late
EDIT: I agree; it's been a while since the potential problem has been brought to light. They probably checked and have been told it's okay.
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Who is it we are after now Ole?
Hi, wing. Is Ole your dad?
What this controversy has taught me is that future VAR panels need to contain referees, ex-players and child services.
Are you trying to say that wing -> wing chun -> Yip Man -> Bruce Lee -> Broccoli -> Beef with -> Chinese take out -> trying to get the caf chop-sue-yed.
On a more serious note, I was remembering all the Giggs superinjunction omgomg-censor-all-the-posts-we're-going-to-be-sued hoopla.
There's probably a lower likelihood that a Korean media outlet would sue the caf.
Is that because they're Asian and passive?
Rashford would soon fix that anyway
No, it's because they're far away and the cost/benefit ratio isn't in their favour.
In the hypothetical situation where it were a possibility, I don't know about the 'far away' thing.
But the economics/optics of the CNN(?) of the eleventh(?) largest economy in the world suing a tiny football club website (by comparison) would be interesting. Gut feeling says cost/benefit wouldn't be a factor at all. It'd just be a matter if they wanted to not send ten executives on a golf outing in the next year. It'd be a matter of whim.
Just checked, they have a circa 5 bn USD annual budget. Legal fees to sue and win or lose/countersuit would be a molecule in the bucket. Ball would be in their court.
EDIT: That was potentially embarrassing. '5 bn' there should be 500 bn for the whole country and it has nothing to do with KBS itself. KBS annual revenue is circa $1.2 billion-ish.
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So no one talks about his antics anymore heh?
The cost benefit for large corporate entities is more to do with the fact that they have these lawyers on staff and their time could be better spent on more important matters than suing a website based out of Ireland for a post made by some random.
And in the words of the immortal James Woods in Contact, how bad would they feel about going out of their way to stomp on an anthill in a 'backwards racist boondock' that might be replaced by something better afterwards?
Who knows. Some junior newbie over there could be given this case to cut her/his/their teeth on. 'See if you can do anything with this.' Six years later, the true story wins an Oscar.
Again, it'd be a matter of whimsy. Obviously their high-powered and even middle to just-above-bottom-rung gals/guys wouldn't be bothered with it.
Blame Mourinho for this calling out OGS in the media. He's desperate for plus points with his players because he's fecked up and lost the dressing room. The man's a fraud!
There would be no stomping. The reality is that step one is a cease and desist letter. Easy option for Niall is to remove the thread in the event that occurs.
That will flow the same way from Ole's perspective. Tell them outlet to report a clarification on the nature of his comments or they'll get sued for defamation.
Both of the above contingent on whether either party cares enough. At this moment, they probably don't.
Was it the play on words regarding 'son'? I find it lame and distasteful but not racist.
Distasteful?
Yep to the bolded part. And again, IMO enough time had passed in between the first pointing out from 711 - and perhaps(?) before that - that it had been discussed and deemed not necessary.
The Ole part isn't an issue. Many posts have pointed out how the articles do not defame Ole - and that's the crux of the issue - and any urges of caution/speculation to that nature are regarding this thread's rather needlessly alleging that he's been defamed.
Again, both would look petty/small time were they to pursue. (And in Ole's case, he'd lose outright: "Hire your own translators. We never said you were racist It's this one tiny forum that said that we said you were.")
So that's not an issue. But from the other way, A, you never know and light-years more pertinently B. by all accounts the thread title is off to the point where it misleads the caf readership at the very least. Several posters are pointing out UH, GUYS, THAT'S NOT WHAT THE KOREAN BROADCASTERS SAID but the thread title remains. The people pointing out the capitalized part have a leg to stand on. Qui bono.
I get your point, but hardware is perhaps the only objective metric with which to compare players.
Unfortunately, YT clips & xG, etc. have brought subjectivity too much into the argument of who is the best / most talented player. It becomes an argument of who is most pleasing to the eye when seen in little snippets / who graded higher.
The scramble to anoint someone the absolute best at football is a fool’s errand to begin with. I am more in the vein of having groups of players as the best of something, even going as far as to define different eras of players to more closely compare like with like.
It’s enjoyable banter to a certain extent, but it also further tribalizes football vis à vis supporters & many take it far too seriously. But it does open eyes of supporters like myself who have no idea these players even existed / forgot how good players were back when their media exposure was a scintilla of what it is today.
Bono is an Irish rock singer with the band U2.
That would be Qui est Bono. You were clearly never a real doctor.Bono is an Irish rock singer with the band U2.
That's racist!! Somehow. I'm sure.
What a load of bollocks... Son really is the golden boy in Korea.
At one stage Ole was considered too nice - now he is sexist, racist and fighting with Mourinho
Sources say the Asian surnames Jin (China/Taiwan), Kim (Korea) and Gon/Gin in Japan use the character for 'gold'.
You're racist for pointing out their avarice.
You just assumed that China, Taiwan, and Japan were worth bringing up in a topic about Korean media. So there's that.
I'm going to stop sarcastically making fun of this now though.
Racism is obviously a very serious topic and as someone with multicultural background I'm well aware of how much it is a problem. To paint what Ole said as racist is just ridiculous though.
We are blaming Jose for having a go at Ole. If the it was the other way around we would be all supporting our Manager if Ole had done the same.
It's best to put this away now.
It's best to put this away now.
It wouldn't be a surprise, they even try to ditch Park's legendary status by comparing him with Son in some reality shows. Most of young koreans now days are die hard Son's fans, that's why their media worship him in every shows.
What a load of bollocks... Son really is the golden boy in Korea.
I don't do laughing smilies, but I'm tempted on this one. The thought of anyone taking that seriously.
Anyways. For the rest of everyone, here's the Chinese character in question.
金