Stéphanie Frappart to referee UEFA Super Cup

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She's not the first female referee in men's football, but certainly the first female to referee a game of this magnitude, no?

https://www.uefa.com/insideuefa/news/newsid=2617533.html

"UEFA is breaking new ground by appointing Stéphanie Frappart to referee the UEFA Super Cup on 14 August. This will be the first time that a female official takes charge of a major UEFA men's competition event – a showpiece match seen as the curtain-raiser to the new season, pitting the UEFA Champions League holders against the winners of the UEFA Europa League at Beşiktaş Park in Istanbul."

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She's just been promoted to the main referee roster of Ligue 1 for 2019/20. I haven't seen her referee a game yet.
 

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I see no reason why not.

This is a game that will decide who is the best (and second best) side in Europe so it's probably the biggest club game in the sport.
 

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Makes sense to bring some of the best referees from womens football over to the mens game.

Are there many male referees in the womens game?
 

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She's just been promoted to the main referee roster of Ligue 1 for 2019/20. I haven't seen her referee a game yet.
This would be my only issue with it, if the referee (no matter what gender) has only just been promoted up then surely they aren't proven enough to referee this game.
 

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Makes sense to bring some of the best referees from womens football over to the mens game.

Are there many male referees in the womens game?
About 50/50 in the Women's Super League.
 

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Seems like an interesting idea, presumably VAR will make this a lot 'easier' as well than it would've been a couple of years ago in such a high profile game.
 

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Excellent! Our game is moving forward.

Now that the dinosaurs like Keys and Gray are being eradicated from the game, female officials might get a fair shake of the stick this time around.
 
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Perhaps she's an outlier but the standard of refereeing at the world Cup was absolutely disgraceful. That's not an overstatement. It was truly appalling. Not sure how it amounts to evolution either, if the men's game evolves further on this path what's the next step in the evolutionary process
 

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Good. Physical differences between men and women shouldn't affect refereeing performances so I don't see why female referees shouldn't be introduced into the men's game as long as they are good enough. Might cause the players to behave a little better as well as an added bonus (even though it shouldn't).
 

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Will VAR be available for offsides and the like? Asking for a mate.
 

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I wonder whether we will get less aggression towards referees if it's a woman?

I think some men will be more cautious to shout at them and be more respectful, others may be the other way and try to intimidate, but they'll get a bad reputation like that.

Could be a good thing for the game perhaps.
 

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I wonder whether we will get less aggression towards referees if it's a woman?

I think some men will be more cautious to shout at them and be more respectful, others may be the other way and try to intimidate, but they'll get a bad reputation like that.

Could be a good thing for the game perhaps.
They shouldn't be crowding the ref full stop! Refs were supposed to be stamping this out but they still just let it go. A few more yellows and reds would soon sort the situation out.
 

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They shouldn't be crowding the ref full stop! Refs were supposed to be stamping this out but they still just let it go. A few more yellows and reds would soon sort the situation out.
I think it's much better than it used to be. Back in the days of Mourinho's Chelsea or us with Keane and Stam, Arsenal with Vieira etc..
 

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They shouldn't be crowding the ref full stop! Refs were supposed to be stamping this out but they still just let it go. A few more yellows and reds would soon sort the situation out.
Sterilise the game too much and it’ll no longer capture the hearts and minds of the public.
We’re heading towards a game with zero talking points. Transfer windows will be anticipated so there’s something to talk about.
 

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I think it's much better than it used to be. Back in the days of Mourinho's Chelsea or us with Keane and Stam, Arsenal with Vieira etc..
I think it's getting just as bad to be honest, especially with the introduction of VAR. Players are crowding the ref more and more and with more aggression too in my opinion. Like I said refs just need to get tough and stamp it out. Players making the TV sign are supposed to get carded automatically. Don't think I've seen it happen once.
 

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She's not the first female referee in men's football, but certainly the first female to referee a game of this magnitude, no?

https://www.uefa.com/insideuefa/news/newsid=2617533.html

"UEFA is breaking new ground by appointing Stéphanie Frappart to referee the UEFA Super Cup on 14 August. This will be the first time that a female official takes charge of a major UEFA men's competition event – a showpiece match seen as the curtain-raiser to the new season, pitting the UEFA Champions League holders against the winners of the UEFA Europa League at Beşiktaş Park in Istanbul."

Football is evolving!
let's hope she sends of a few of the dippers
 

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Sterilise the game too much and it’ll no longer capture the hearts and minds of the public.
We’re heading towards a game with zero talking points. Transfer windows will be anticipated so there’s something to talk about.
You're not of those that would like to see poor decisions being made in a match just that 'we have something to argue about in the pub on a Friday night'? I'm not talking about sterilising the game. I'm just talking about players ganging up on the ref every time they don't agree with a decision. It looks bad and shouldn't be allowed. It doesn't happen in any other sport. I wouldn't mind if just the captain approached the ref and waved his teammates away but to have 5 or 6 players shouting at him/her all at once is just not on.
 

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She's just been promoted to the main referee roster of Ligue 1 for 2019/20. I haven't seen her referee a game yet.
Seems a strange choice then - launching her into a high profile game without much first class experience.

Good. Physical differences between men and women shouldn't affect refereeing performances so I don't see why female referees shouldn't be introduced into the men's game as long as they are good enough. Might cause the players to behave a little better as well as an added bonus (even though it shouldn't).
I hope that's the case.

But I do remember a poster on here (a referee maybe?) saying that the women refs weren't yet being required to meet the same physical standards as the men. That's one of he reasons why in England we see more female assistant refs than refs (well that, and there are more assistants mathematically speaking :smirk:). Hopefully that's not the case with the UEFA panel refs, because it would set a poor precedent and set up the women refs to fail.
 

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If they meet the same standards as men do, there is no reason why women shouldn't officiate men's games. Not sure what it has to do with football evolving though.
 

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PR stunt.

She isn’t remotely experienced enough to referee this game. Her gender is irrelevant, too. UEFA wouldn’t employ a male referee that has never really officiated outside of the Championship before. She should be no different.
 

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Nice for her but surely a referee should be moved up through the ranks organically, regardless of their gender/sex/colour
Yep, somebody with more experience has been passed over for a job they would have been proud to take. In the name of what?
 

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PR stunt.

She isn’t remotely experienced enough to referee this game. Her gender is irrelevant, too. UEFA wouldn’t employ a male referee that has never really officiated outside of the Championship before. She should be no different.
My thoughts exactly, I'm all for gender equality but this is where it goes too far the other way.

How many other referees (of either sex) are more qualified for this game. Feels like a slap in the face to them.
 

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What i struggle to understand is this.

How is the women's game supposed to grow if the best female refs and coaches goes over to the men's game? Genuine question.
 

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PR stunt.

She isn’t remotely experienced enough to referee this game. Her gender is irrelevant, too. UEFA wouldn’t employ a male referee that has never really officiated outside of the Championship before. She should be no different.
I agree, Uefa just want to push through with their equal agenda. Equality is nice, but not like this
 

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I agree, Uefa just want to push through with their equal agenda. Equality is nice, but not like this
Which is ironic given the compete ambivalence with which they seem to approach widespread racism.