Over a decade and the only thing that changed is that it's worse.
Static, slow motion zombie passing
- Thread starter noodlehair
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Zombieball is back 
One of the best threads on the Caf. Classic.
Yeah definitely need to move it quicker
I often remember the title of this thread during a bad performance. It's like some kind of time capsule in my brain that bad United teams constantly add to.
That said, this does show that people moaned back when we were winning titles too.
The last 1-2 came despite the shit passing / utter lack of midfield. I think Fergie willed them into happening more than anything else.
ETH has changed our build up structure from last season and it is killing our ability to progress the ball. Its no longer a personnel issue. We no longer pass vertical from thr back. He has stopped using 3-2 (3 def 2 holders) to progress the ball into midfield. Today the 3-1 structure with no vertical passing ensured we could hardly ever find the one in midfield unless he flotated endlessly or run about like a headless chicken to be free in space and the 3 ahead of him were always too wide to improve it. Which is all down to coachinh instruction
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Just realized this thread was started in a season we won the league.
That means we are much worse than zombie now.
That's why so many disagreed with him. If we were getting points then how could anything be wrong? Except he was right.
Threads like this should only be allowed if when we play well (let's say, passing quickly and incisively), as many posts are deleted as are added when we play badly.
He's been missing 4 of his 5 fullbacks for much of the season, including the one we went and got as emergency cover. Difficult to continue to use a system which is heavily reliant on quality, intelligence and understanding of the system from the FBs.
SAF should retire at the end of the season IMO.
Dalot has played it through out last season. Lindelof and Amrabat a natural midfielder don't have an issues coming infield along side a holding player. Frankly I don't see ANY good reason why he abandoned it after the unfortunate Galatasaray loss. Yesterday it would have suited the starting XI completely.
Thought this would finally be the end of this by bringing in an Ajax coach. The simplest concept of passing and moving into space is lost on this lot. Van de Beek, for all his flaws, is pretty exceptional at this, and his spatial awareness is by far the best at the club I think. At least he learned a thing or two at Ajax.
A 3-2 buildup is actually easier to implement than a 3-1 buildup so your argument doesn't make any sense. The injury crisis could be a reason to switch from 3-1 to 3-2 to distribute responsibilities among multiple weaker players than the starters, but not vice versa
Thats why I (sorta) defend Moyes. The team he inherited wasn't that good but Fergie won the league with them. He turned players into terminators somehow.
I think Moyes -maybe, just maybe - would have done OK, if with a ceiling and for a couple of seasons, under a proper DOF, and no Woodward interference, one who would have got him a better profile for CM than Fellaini (and then brought in Kroos in may 14, which we know was provisionally agreed, before LVG took over, dithered and allowed Madrid to come in ), insisted on keeping one or two key coaching staff for transition, over-ruled Moyes' own transfer dithering and guided him towards enacting whatever variant of cut-price Klopp-style post SAF play he had in mind, complete with signings like Mane rather than Di Maria etc . Still think we would have missed out on serious silverware, but I could see him squeezing a couple of 3rd places and a cup or two before being replaced by a Poch.