Yeah, exactly, even getting above average or solid players will cost them a lot cause clubs will see a chance to sell for a premium and the prices will go up even though its already crazy at the moment.
Steve Bruce leaves Newcastle
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most of those are forward players or defenders, Dubravka is a decent keeper but is injured, Lewis has been pretty awful, Lascelles is ok but gets no protection from the midfield which is where they are sorely lacking and having only purchased 1 player in the summer and having to rely on Longstaff, Shelvey, Hayden and Murphy you're always going to stuggle, and of the forward players in the last season Wilson is injured as often as not and St Maxim had half a season out with Covid.
Yeah, agreed. Ungrateful losers with no sense of perspective or humility. Bruce did a decent job for that shit squad.
Wish him all the best.
I don’t think anyone advocates abuse, but you can certainly advocate not backing something you don’t believe is good enough. As I said earlier, Bruce not being backed is a bit of a myth. They’ve spent £100 million + during his time there.
People moaning about him having a shit squad when he had at least 25m each window to rectify it and didn’t?
Benitez spent 1.5m this window and Gray/Townsend have been two of our best players this season. There is still value in the market for mid table teams.
How does one come up with an insult like Cabbage Head?
Saint-Maximin and Wilson played what? 26 games each last season? Along with Almiron and Willock that is a lot of attacking quality for 2/3 of the season for a side in the bottom half. I grant you the likes of Shelvey and Murphy aren't going to win many awards but I'm not suggesting they should be winning trophies - just that every squad down that end of the table has weaknesses and it isn't by some divine miracle that he's managed to keep them up.
He could've improved on that defence by using some of the £40mil he wasted on Joelinton. Imagine what Dyche or Potter would've done with it.
Swapping Steve Bruce for Paulo Fonseca would be like swapping a Vauxhall Vectra for a Volkswagen Polo.
Bruce is a good manager, he has had a very bad start to the season, however performances have actually been better than the results suggest.
Last season he had his team playing well when everyone was back fit.
If Fonseca joins then Newcastle will be going down without doubt this season, the Guy is a poor poor manager.
Bruce is a good manager, he has had a very bad start to the season, however performances have actually been better than the results suggest.
Last season he had his team playing well when everyone was back fit.
If Fonseca joins then Newcastle will be going down without doubt this season, the Guy is a poor poor manager.
Must say that I’ve been pretty irritated by the way Newcastle fans have treated him, especially since he is a United legend. All the personal abuse towards him and his family has been completely unwarranted, and even a lot of his criticism has been unfair.
Comparing his Premier League finishing positions and points tally with Benitez, a man who Newcastle fans worship like God, there’s no clear disparity whatsoever:
Benitez
Bruce
It’s been argued that King Rafa managing to equal Bruce with much less resources was an amazing feat, but deep down, even Newcastle fans know this: the only difference was that they spunked £40m on Joelinton when Bruce was in charge, compared to nothing with Rafa. And we all know about Joelinton’s capabilities, or there lack of, in the Premier League.
And as I write this, Bruce has come out with an interview saying that this could be his last job. Can anyone blame him? You’d think the insults he listed that’s been against him were fake, but they’ve been recited many times by his own fans. Look at the Newcastle forum - someone genuinely responded to him saying that his parents would have been gutted looking at the abuse he’s been getting by saying “Your parents died of shame”. It’s been sickening, and no wonder if he wants to become a permanent fan from now on.
Comparing his Premier League finishing positions and points tally with Benitez, a man who Newcastle fans worship like God, there’s no clear disparity whatsoever:
Benitez
| Season | League position | Points |
| A bit of 2015-16 | 18th | 37 |
| 2017-18 | 10th | 44 |
| 2018-19 | 13th | 45 |
Bruce
| Season | League position | Points |
| 2019-20 | 13th | 44 |
| 2021-22 | 12th | 45 |
It’s been argued that King Rafa managing to equal Bruce with much less resources was an amazing feat, but deep down, even Newcastle fans know this: the only difference was that they spunked £40m on Joelinton when Bruce was in charge, compared to nothing with Rafa. And we all know about Joelinton’s capabilities, or there lack of, in the Premier League.
And as I write this, Bruce has come out with an interview saying that this could be his last job. Can anyone blame him? You’d think the insults he listed that’s been against him were fake, but they’ve been recited many times by his own fans. Look at the Newcastle forum - someone genuinely responded to him saying that his parents would have been gutted looking at the abuse he’s been getting by saying “Your parents died of shame”. It’s been sickening, and no wonder if he wants to become a permanent fan from now on.
I wish I could get a job as a manager.
I mean I'd be shit but I would get a pay off that allows me to travel forever and half the nation outraged on my behalf.
I mean I'd be shit but I would get a pay off that allows me to travel forever and half the nation outraged on my behalf.
We've already had so called fans calling him a cnut.
Geordie prats shit on him for doing the same job as benitez, a son of their own city to boot. Prats.
Well he did rectify their scoring problems when he signed Wilson. He then lost him for a good part of the season. When he played results were good.
Gray and Townsend were cheap players added to a much better existing team. Townsend wasn’t exactly propelling Crystal Palace up the table so I doubt he’d have done it for Newcastle.
How is Bruce making arguably the worst transfer (factoring in price compared to quality) ever in PL being used as an argument for him?
Tbf the joelinton deal was done before he became the manager though yeah I think he may have ok'ed it in the end
It is sickening but also hope springs eternal. Rafa has won the CL, La Liga against all odds. Bruce is a lets scrape by at the bottom and avoid relegation appointment with no hope at all at his stage sadly, for him.
Yeah I'm just trying to picture an adult calling another adult a cabbage head and it's a hilarious image
No surprise here... Who will go to manage for the first part of the project? Main task is to grind points out. Mourinho would be ideal.
Sterling could be first player in ?
Sterling could be first player in ?
Aye, it’s obviously been harsh the treatment he’s had, but it’s a funny phrase, as is him sharing that phrase. Like something from a sketch show
“They said I was useless, and a bad manager, and a tactically inept cabbage head”
Minor nitpick - Rafa also never got ASM (£20m).
Oh wow. Here I thought she was associated solely with Newcastle. I didn't realize this was her MO
There's a post on here from 2017 where I call Ronald Koeman a cabbage head. I think they stole it from me.
Hadn’t heard that one beforeNo different to Graham Taylor's turnip head.
Bruce must have known he was on a hiding to nothing trying to keep his job. Its arguable he would have got the boot by Christmas even if Newcastle were midtable or so.
Difficult to argue when they are 19th and havent won this season.
If I was Bruce id be taking my multi-million payoff, my cabbage head and ride off into the sunset.
Difficult to argue when they are 19th and havent won this season.
If I was Bruce id be taking my multi-million payoff, my cabbage head and ride off into the sunset.
Just seen a list of the top 15 candidates for the Newcastle job. Most of these managers are currently employed. Imagine my surprise when Ole isn’t even in the list. Even not considered good enough for Newcastle.
He is the luckiest manager in world football.
Fell sorry for Steven Bruce, he comes across as a good man and I don’t think many will take Newcastle much further up the table without considerable investment.
He is the luckiest manager in world football.
Fell sorry for Steven Bruce, he comes across as a good man and I don’t think many will take Newcastle much further up the table without considerable investment.
Could be wrong but I’m pretty sure Joelinton was scouted before, and the deal went through just after Bruce came in from memory, so I don’t think it was his transfer. Even if he confirmed it, that can’t be put 100% down to him.
I would never claim to know more about your club’s finances than you, but Perez was sold in that summer for more (your best player for Rafa imo). The ASM deal would likely have been financed by that.
"By mutual consent"....I bet.
Saudi takeover or not, he deserved the sack. Currently, they are in relegation mode and with Bruce they would have ended up 16th-17th at best.
Conte will inherit a huge mess before the January window.
Conte will inherit a huge mess before the January window.
Lots of unqualified managers get jobs based on their links to the club,. Look at Arteta, look at Ac Milan's list of managers for the last 10 years, it's how Pirlo got his job at Juve. It's how Ole got the job at Utd.
He took a job at Newcastle that nobody else wanted, it's the club he has supported all his life. He was more than qualified for the job and did just as well as the waiter who was in before him. He has taken nothing but abuse from the Newcastle fans from day one.
If he doesn't retire he would be more likely to get another Prem job before Ole does.
Just reading how badly he feels he and his family have been treated up there by the fans and the city as a whole, I'm fuming for him, he's a class guy, top professional and a gentleman. Nice tribute from Saint-Maximin.
Hope the scumbags get relegated.
Hope the scumbags get relegated.
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He's been really unfortunate. The Wilson injury really did him no favours and Shelby basically hasn't played this season. They don't have the depth to compensate for any injuries either.
You could really feel that's how he felt about Steve by his performances. He really did all he could to keep the man in the job.
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Couldn't have put it better myself! They didn't deserve Bruce, a man of honour and integrity - even Simon Jordan likes him! Often wonder how we would have done with him instead of Ole as interim manager and possibly more? He will always be a United Legend to me. Good luck Steve - enjoy your retirement......
Nice words by Maxim.
Newcastle fans are imbeciles to be honest. The amount of abuse they gave Brucey was really unwarranted. Those lot actually thought they were Real Madrid with the expectations that they had.
Yep. He didn't deserve the levels of personal abuse he got and he's a nice guy but speaking solely on Bruce the manager the way his spell at Newcastle is getting glorified is hilarious.
He was good in the 00s at Birmingham and Wigan but like with many others the modern game has left his types of manager out of their depth at this level.
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