Still boycotting the World Cup? Even if you aren't, watch these videos!

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Right, there are apparently at least 100 of us who have declared that we are boycotting this World Cup:

https://www.redcafe.net/threads/wor...-political-issues-will-you-boycott-it.488448/

With 104 games not to watch, how will we pass our time?

Before you decide to spend time with your children, loved ones, friends, or think about leaving the house - do consider this alternative.

There is a gargantuan library of historical football matches, football documentaries, and long-form video essays, all of which are available online, all of which I am sure have fully licenced all the footage they have used.

For each World Cup game, I propose posting 90 minutes of alternative content for you to consume, so you can still receive your footballing fix. All this without having to enter the World Cup forum.

This can include previous international tournament matches, the domestic game, European competitions, anything good I find that hasn't been copyright claimed by a governing body.

If you have specific teams or nations you would like to see, let me know. Alternatively, if you find something interesting, feel free to post it.

As a sample, here is a video about Mexico hosting the tournament 1986, a World Cup which was originally awarded to Colombia. It is a story that has it all - Pele, Henry Kissinger, and (shock horror) what seems like FIFA corruption:



There are two games on 11 June, so I plan to drop the first 180 minutes of videos then.

That doesn't stop me doing a build up though...
 
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What better way to build up excitement for not watching the World Cup by giving you a full screening of FIFA's own United Passions, released in 2015.

Costing $32 million to produce, it generated a colossal $918 on its opening weekend in the United States and lost nearly $27 million worldwide.

Described by reviewers as propaganda "more appropriate for Scientology or the Rev Sun Myung Moon", it tells the story of FIFA's creation and history.

You will see 'acting' from Gerard Depardieu, Dr Alan Grant and that bloke from the diner in Pulp Fiction who made Samuel L Jackson want to be the shepherd.



110 minutes which you will never get back.

Thank me later.
 
Frosty said:
What better way to build up excitement for not watching the World Cup by giving you a full screening of FIFA's own United Passions, released in 2015.

Costing $32 million to produce, it generated a colossal $918 on its opening weekend in the United States and lost nearly $27 million worldwide.

Described by reviewers as propaganda "more appropriate for Scientology or the Rev Sun Myung Moon", it tells the story of FIFA's creation and history.

You will see 'acting' from Gerard Depardieu, Dr Alan Grant and that bloke from the diner in Pulp Fiction who made Samuel L Jackson want to be the shepherd.



110 minutes which you will never get back.

Thank me later.
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I thought the video embedded was the trailer (misinterpreted the time format) and wondered why it was such a slow buildup for a trailer.
 
I don't get why you would, you can just stream it for free and you're literally hurting FIFA. Boycott paying or contributing, you can still watch it.
 
Frosty said:
What better way to build up excitement for not watching the World Cup by giving you a full screening of FIFA's own United Passions, released in 2015.

Costing $32 million to produce, it generated a colossal $918 on its opening weekend in the United States and lost nearly $27 million worldwide.

Described by reviewers as propaganda "more appropriate for Scientology or the Rev Sun Myung Moon", it tells the story of FIFA's creation and history.

You will see 'acting' from Gerard Depardieu, Dr Alan Grant and that bloke from the diner in Pulp Fiction who made Samuel L Jackson want to be the shepherd.



110 minutes which you will never get back.

Thank me later.
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I forgot this existed. And they even roped Tim Roth into the mix! I won't be watching.
 
I had planned on spending this build-up roundly criticising FIFA, and I will. But many of you may not be interested in repeated videos about alleged corruption, so I have taken the opportunity to add some variety and much shorter videos.

First, the oldest footage of Manchester United in existence. This is from 1902, and a match against Burnley. United are playing in the darker shirts. This was filmed only a month after the name change from Newton Heath:



Second, here is Manchester United legend Jordi Cruyff's dad being asked to conduct a tactical analysis of the 1973 FA Cup Final, when Sunderland beat Leeds in one of the all time upsets.

Was there any doubt he would be a managerial great?

Reminder - he was 26 here:

 
Frosty said:
What better way to build up excitement for not watching the World Cup by giving you a full screening of FIFA's own United Passions, released in 2015.

Costing $32 million to produce, it generated a colossal $918 on its opening weekend in the United States and lost nearly $27 million worldwide.

Described by reviewers as propaganda "more appropriate for Scientology or the Rev Sun Myung Moon", it tells the story of FIFA's creation and history.

You will see 'acting' from Gerard Depardieu, Dr Alan Grant and that bloke from the diner in Pulp Fiction who made Samuel L Jackson want to be the shepherd.



110 minutes which you will never get back.

Thank me later.
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Not bad, but it's no Dear England.



4 part mini series available on BBC iPlayer, can't wait to see it all. :lol:
 
Right, for today's offering I have a 7 a side match from 1991.

In 1991 Sir Matt Busby had a testimonial at Old Trafford. United would play the Republic of Ireland.

Before that match, a legends game between City and United would take place. Here is that game:

 
It has ticked past midnight UK time so I will provide another video in this build up. Did you know that the 2018 and 2022 World Cup bidding processes were a bit, well, dodgy?

Even if you did you may not be aware of quite how bad it was.

Here's a 40 minute video where Bonita Mersiades, FIFA whistleblower and a former head of corporate and public affairs at Football Australia, explains precisely how Russia and Qatar got the World Cup.



This has chapters and timestamps if you wish to pick and choose what you watch.
 
Frosty said:
Right, there are apparently at least 100 of us who have declared that we are boycotting this World Cup:

https://www.redcafe.net/threads/wor...-political-issues-will-you-boycott-it.488448/

With 104 games not to watch, how will we pass our time?

Before you decide to spend time with your children, loved ones, friends, or think about leaving the house - do consider this alternative.

There is a gargantuan library of historical football matches, football documentaries, and long-form video essays, all of which are available online, all of which I am sure have fully licenced all the footage they have used.

For each World Cup game, I propose posting 90 minutes of alternative content for you to consume, so you can still receive your footballing fix. All this without having to enter the World Cup forum.

This can include previous international tournament matches, the domestic game, European competitions, anything good I find that hasn't been copyright claimed by a governing body.

If you have specific teams or nations you would like to see, let me know. Alternatively, if you find something interesting, feel free to post it.

As a sample, here is a video about Mexico hosting the tournament 1986, a World Cup which was originally awarded to Colombia. It is a story that has it all - Pele, Henry Kissinger, and (shock horror) what seems like FIFA corruption:



There are two games on 11 June, so I plan to drop the first 180 minutes of videos then.

That doesn't stop me doing a build up though...
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Great video!
 
I just watched this:



Had no idea about the ins and outs of the France 2010 debacle. Domenech a caricature-like villain. Fun watch.
 
Bastian said:
I just watched this:



Had no idea about the ins and outs of the France 2010 debacle. Domenech a caricature-like villain. Fun watch.
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It's a good watch but Domenech is a total imbecile. He clearly has an opinion of himself as a cool galouise smoking, enfant terrible of football...but he's just a terrible person based on his own writings and thoughts.

Snide comments about saying the players "couldn't have written the note by themselves because it was spelt correctly!" show him to be the racist trash that he is.

His suspicious lack of activity when the story broke, to me points to himself being the source of the lies about what Anelka said at half time.

He was on a massive ego trip and was totally out of his depth. He pressed the self destruct button and decided to take it out on young black players.

He's a stain on the history of football, never mind just French football.
 
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It's a good watch but Domenech is a total imbecile. He clearly has an opinion of himself as a cool galouise smoking, enfant terrible of football...but he's just a terrible person based on hos own writings and thoughts.

Snide comments about saying the players "couldn't have written the note by themselves because it was spelt correctly!" show him to be the racist trash that he is.

His suspicious lack of activity when the story broke, to me points to himself being the source of the lies about what Anelka said at half time.

He was on a massive ego trip and was totally out of his depth. He pressed the self destruct button and decided to take it out on young black players.

He's a stain on the history of football, never mind just French football.
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The only reason I didn’t go into all that (all true) is because I didn’t want to spoil the watch. But yes, a bonafide narcissist.
 
Genuinely feel sick at what fifa have done to the World Cup. No interest in watching.

However, watched ‘Kevin Bridges: In search of the beautiful game’ tonight and it put a smile on my miserable face.

Definitely worth a watch.
 
Right, here is your fix for the start of the working week.

FIFA have been roundly criticised for their behaviour in recent years, and their approach to ethics.

Sadly that's nothing new.

Here's a story about the Cold War, the CIA, communism and FIFA insisting a World Cup play off game take place in a prison camp and torture centre.

This took place in 1973 in Chile.

In September of that year, leftist President Salvador Allende was deposed in a CIA backed coup, due to fears of his close links with the USSR.

Meanwhile, Chile's football team had progressed to an intercontinental playoff for the 1974 tournament, for which only 16 teams were able to qualify at the time.

Their opponents in the Autumn of 1973? The USSR. What could go wrong?



Here is Associated Press footage of the stadium being used as a prison:



Here is a Trans World Sport report on the stadium, the match and its backdrop, including interviews with the players involved:



Edit:

ESPN focused on this match as part of their 30 for 30 documentaries. A 24 minute video is available on Daily Motion. Titled 'The Opposition', it is well worth a watch.

 
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Frosty said:
Right, for today's offering I have a 7 a side match from 1991.

In 1991 Sir Matt Busby had a testimonial at Old Trafford. United would play the Republic of Ireland.

Before that match, a legends game between City and United would take place. Here is that game:

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That was fun. Lovely assist from Best.
 
Chipper said:
Not bad, but it's no Dear England.



4 part mini series available on BBC iPlayer, can't wait to see it all. :lol:
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The Beeb had this on in the background of an interview with Southgate the other day and I was genuinely taken aback. Why does this exist. FFS.

Also, great thread @Frosty
 
Frosty said:
What better way to build up excitement for not watching the World Cup by giving you a full screening of FIFA's own United Passions, released in 2015.

Costing $32 million to produce, it generated a colossal $918 on its opening weekend in the United States and lost nearly $27 million worldwide.

Described by reviewers as propaganda "more appropriate for Scientology or the Rev Sun Myung Moon", it tells the story of FIFA's creation and history.

You will see 'acting' from Gerard Depardieu, Dr Alan Grant and that bloke from the diner in Pulp Fiction who made Samuel L Jackson want to be the shepherd.



110 minutes which you will never get back.

Thank me later.
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Remember watching this years ago and just being in awe. Genuinely think it's a great 'so bad it's good' watch.
 
I promise I do have uplifting and positive and enjoyable videos to come.

But since I mentioned the 1974 World Cup, there is also this footage which I am certain every single one of you will have seen at some point in your lives:



In this clip, John Motson described it as a moment of African innocence.

Zaire lost to Scotland, Brazil and Yugoslavia heavily. The country, now DR Congo, is back at the World Cup.

But the free kick wasn't a moment of innocence, rather a deliberate act of resistance against a dictator. Credit to HITC Sevens, who has covered this and many other lesser known stories:

 
Two more days of build-up to go.

177 red cards have been shown in the history of the World Cup.

But until 1970, the physical red and yellow cards did not exist.

This caused... difficulties in global tournaments, when referees and players could not speak each other's languages. The crowd often didn't follow what was happening either. Players found out they had been cautioned after the game had finished.

Here is an example from England v Argentina in 1966, when Antonio Rattin could not understand that the German referee was dismissing him, and took several minutes to leave the field:



Here is a story about how red and yellow cards were invented by an English schoolteacher and his wife, and how they transformed football:



As a nice bit of continuity, the first player shown the red card at a World Cup was Carlos Caszély of Chile, one of the leftist players who openly opposed the Pinochet regime and whose mother was abducted and tortured to 'encourage' his compliance when playing for the national team.
 
I'm considering this the anti-World Cup thread. Love Bielsa.



also:

 
Here's a blast from the past.

Man Utd v Arsenal from 1957, first-half highlights:



If you haven't watched footage of the Busby Babes, here you go. I have not yet found the second half footage, but I will keep looking!
 
Right, to mark this penultimate day, I present you a cracking 90-minute documentary I found on United - 'The Cup Collectors'.

Packed with video footage, this tells the story of the 89/90 and 90/91 seasons, and our FA Cup and Cup Winners Cup successes.

I have no idea how this has not yet been copyright claimed, so please watch it while you can!

 
Frosty said:
Right, to mark this penultimate day, I present you a cracking 90-minute documentary I found on United - 'The Cup Collectors'.

Packed with video footage, this tells the story of the 89/90 and 90/91 seasons, and our FA Cup and Cup Winners Cup successes.

I have no idea how this has not yet been copyright claimed, so please watch it while you can!

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Bout half hour in and we're having a shocking time of it. Need to sack this manager yesterday.
 
Videos for Day 1 - 11 June

Two matches are scheduled to take place on the opening day of the tournament.

As promised, here are some alternatives for your viewing. I have posted some videos pointing out some very negative things about football across the world, and FIFA in particular, so let's start out with a more positive viewing experience.

First, we have a match which has been rated as the best World Cup match ever played - Brazil v Italy in 1982:



You should be able to click the link and access this on YouTube. FIFA does not allow for embedded videos. Spoilsports.

One minor annoyance is that FIFA often re-dubs the original videos of these matches decades later with contemporary commentators. If you can get over that, you should be able to enjoy a great spectacle.

Otherwise here is the game from Italian TV:



Second, on the day of the 2002 World Cup Final, the two lowest ranked teams in the FIFA rankings arranged to play each other.

This is a documentary covering (and celebrating) Bhutan v Montserrat, dubbed 'The Other World Cup Final':



Only 102 more games to go.
 
Frosty said:
One minor annoyance is that FIFA often re-dubs the original videos of these matches decades later with contemporary commentators. If you can get over that, you should be able to enjoy a great spectacle.
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Can't stand that sort of thing, commentator acting surprised about a famous incident that he must've seen before & commentating like it's the first time he had seen it, utterly ridiculous.

Admittedly a lot of these group stage matches don't look that interesting & some k-o times don't suit European audiences & maybe some people are working or sleeping when some of these matches take place but are there really forum members on here who absolutely refuse to watch these WC games?
 
UTD_Since_1978 said:
Can't stand that sort of thing, commentator acting surprised about a famous incident that he must've seen before & commentating like it's the first time he had seen it, utterly ridiculous.

Admittedly a lot of these group stage matches don't look that interesting & some k-o times don't suit European audiences & maybe some people are working or sleeping when some of these matches take place but are there really forum members on here who absolutely refuse to watch these WC games?
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Over 120 if you believe the poll...
 
Watching this at the moment. Very interesting.

 
Videos for Day 2 - 12 June

Two games scheduled, and here are your alternatives.

Newcastle v Arsenal from 2011, a game I was lucky enough to attend:



The FA Cup Quarter Final between United v Liverpool in 2024. Relive the chaos!



For those of you at work, here is the radio commentary of the game.

 
Videos for Day 3 - 13 June

Scotland play on Day 3, so here is your alternative themed watchlist.

Video 1 - Scotland '78 , 'A Love Story'. A documentary about Scotland's participation in the World Cup in Argentina that year.



Video 2 - Scotland v Netherlands 1978. The full game, this time not interrupted by a movie about drugs:



Scotland will have played Brazil five times in a World Cup by the end of the group stages, which is more than France, Netherlands and England have played them.

Video 3 - Brazil v Scotland, Italia 90



Video 4 - Brazil v Scotland, France 98



Here is a public service announcement for you: https://www.standsapp.org/blog/dailymotion-ad-blocker/

Videos 5 & 6:

Finally, recognition of Scotland's opponents today, Haiti, whose kit FIFA said was too political as it included mention of the abolition of slavery. The first Black republic, the first successful slave revolt in human history, this country's history is as fascinating as it is tragic. But this isn't a geopolitics thread, and you have Google if you are really interested.

So here is Haiti's qualifying campaign:



And here is a documentary about 'Real Hope FA', a Haitian football club founded in 2014 and its participation in CONCACAF regional tournaments, the equivalent of the Champions League. Due to the political instability at home, they could not play matches in Haiti. This is a story about how a football team called Real Hope was trying to use football to give real hope to their country:

 
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