Yeah, seems like it'll be something like that.
I really, really like and rate Cunha and Mbuemo, mbuemo especially. But when we could play amad and bruno there it feels like a total waste of money considering the state of other positions.
Striker Poll - Who should we buy ?
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Nik (@Rood), Jamie (@Vault Dweller) and Ed (@That'sHernandez) give their end of season awards out! They celebrate the best players, goals and moments of the season (there were some, honestly) and also give out awards for the worst and most disappointing players/moments of the season.
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I really, really like and rate Cunha and Mbuemo, mbuemo especially. But when we could play amad and bruno there it feels like a total waste of money considering the state of other positions.
Osimhen/Gyokeres given the choice?
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@Raoul can you add Gonçalo Ramos too?
That PSG isn't even in the poll.
I don't think we want him, do we?
I don't think we want him, do we?
Well he was referenced in that sensible signings Athletic article so maybe he should be added to it
Loan with an option could be a deft bit of business.
Do you mean instead of an Osimhen/Gyokeres
Yeah I don’t think we’re getting either of those guys.
We have no money, so how would we find 60 million to buy either?
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Poll has been reset again without Osimhen. Gonçalo Ramos added
Maybe, without Osimhen in the poll, we have more chance of signing him.
The PSG guy looks like a waste of effort. If they're offering him to us, we don't need to pay much.
The PSG guy looks like a waste of effort. If they're offering him to us, we don't need to pay much.
Obviously hinging on making sales
What do you think you'd have to pay PSG for Kolo Muani? Would definitely fancy that at this point if the money was right.
Il Corriere dello Sport said £35m
Who do you think is most likely?
If we were forced to make a more economical choice than my first pick Gyökeres, then why not Aleksander Sørloth?
Still has 3 years left on his contract, so I can't see him moving anywhere without a hefty fee.
Gyökeres also my first pick, but with Cunha and Mbeumo as the 10s, I'd be happy with someone like a Mateta as a stop gap, with Zirkzee as first backup and Højlund or Chido getting a loan move to regain confidence/develop (but only one of them loaned out - we would still need two backups to the starter).
Would he be that economical? Atletico paid 32M Euro last year and he has scored 20+ goals for them, I would think that even if they are looking to sell they would want a fairly significant fee. I would not be against it but his age would be an issue for INEOS based on the interviews SJR has given concerning past and future transfers.
Okay, thank you. Was just wondering whether we need to look for a non-obvious cheap-ish option, considering that Gyökeres might not want to come and a lot of the young strikers in the poll most likely being fairly expensive.
Believe me, he's not a worse striker than Hojlund. He's played far fewer games for PSG than Hojlund has for us and he's gone on a great run of scoring since joining Juve. In the last two seasons, he's scored at a run rate of a goal every two games and with assists it adds up to .75 goal contributions every 90 minutes. He's also clearly way better on the eye test than Rasmus.
Sounds very appealing then, always feel like he's more of a wide forward than a number 9 down middle
Good question. Maybe Ramos being that he is a Mendes client and considering where we stand with the budget. Honestly it all depends on sales and what we prioritize from here.
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I would say our shortlist goes in order of priority
Gyökeres/Osimhen (if by some miracle doesn't go to Saudi or stay at Galatasaray)
Mateta (INEOS love prem proven)
Ramos
Mitrovic
I would hope Sørloth is on our radar. Atleti will part with him for €50m apparently, maybe less if that’s the price they’re touting. Also like Wissa much more than Mateta who would cost far too much for what he offers at his age. But I doubt Brentford would sell us Mbeumo and Wissa in the same window. Ramos is interesting only if PSG will agree to a loan with an option which would allow us to allocate funds elsewhere. All depends on who we’re able to sell and what sort of prices we get.
I think the trouble with Sorloth is I remember the player he was at Palace, yeah there is no chance that Brentford sell us their two best players this summer. Like you say anything else in the window no hinges on being able to sell off our unwanted attackers.
Right but remember that Gyökeres failed at Brighton years ago. Players evolve and progress isn’t always linear.
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Having seen the news about potentially being offered Ramos I have watched the obligatory highlights, I guess on loan if we do not have other options but cannot say I am inspired.
The issue is (as if the same with many other striker highlights I have watched) that the chances these players are getting and scoring (or shooting from) are not opportunities that we are creating, I am not touting Hojlund as being wonderful but put him in the same situations and he would probably be scoring too, either we need to find a striker who is capable of playing well in a crowded penalty area or we need to change our play so that we get up the field more quickly so we are not overwhelmed by numbers
The issue is (as if the same with many other striker highlights I have watched) that the chances these players are getting and scoring (or shooting from) are not opportunities that we are creating, I am not touting Hojlund as being wonderful but put him in the same situations and he would probably be scoring too, either we need to find a striker who is capable of playing well in a crowded penalty area or we need to change our play so that we get up the field more quickly so we are not overwhelmed by numbers
In terms of age, Sørloth falls outside of Ineos' new recruitment policy. That aside, I believe there are several factors that make Sørloth a good option or temporary solution in a difficult striker market: despite often playing a secondary role, he does what he's supposed to do, score goals! Both with his feet and his head. After an unsuccessful spell in England, he has matured and reached a high level for both club and country. Would he have been too expensive? We won't know unless we actually tried.
That said, I still want Gyökeres. With each passing day and every new rumor about other clubs targeting strikers, I'm getting more and more excited. It really seems like we have a well thought out strategy in place, and that gives me hope!
none of that lot listed exactly give me the fizz but i guess there are just not a lot of what could be classed as historically good no 9s around at the moment. If i had to pick it would be Goncalo Ramos, young with good attributes. But unless PSG actively want rid its not happening. A tough old no 9 that can hold the ball up fro Mbuemo , Cunha and Bruno and put the ball away when it falls to him the box would do until Obi is ready, wheres old Wouty at now ?
orr ...Sancho as false 9 maybe (false 1-11 for that matter)
orr ...Sancho as false 9 maybe (false 1-11 for that matter)
So not even Gyokeres, oh let me guess you are worried he is only capable of scoring in Portugal
Any competent striker will do okay next year with Cunha and Mbeumo behind or feeding them.
See Wissa and Strand Larsen.
See Wissa and Strand Larsen.
Been enjoying this type of highlight reel and think sheds some light on the striker. These are videos of some of the strikers we’ve been linked with or are available
€50mn would be a crazy fee for a 29 year old superstar never mind Sorloth who has had two decent seasons in a top European league in his career. Have people forgotten the folly of the Casemiro signing already?
Could we make hobbling along for another year with ZZ / Hojlund an option so we can strengthen other areas of the squad (CM, GK, WB?)
I think these are only useful to a degree. I bet Hojlund would probably look good in one of these (although not sure if he's managed 80 shots in his career). The problem is the best strikers generate land miss lots of chances while Hojlund barely takes any shots but has (or had at one point) a decent shot conversion rate.
I imagine it would be more like €40m but a focal point who scores goals costs money. And even if he needs upgrading in a couple of years he would still be useful as a backup. I also find this argument strange when many are frothing at the mouth to throw £60m+ and premium wages at a 27 year old with a similar career trajectory. At least Sørloth can play with his back to goal and head a ball.
Well if it's Gyokeres you're talking about, I've said before that I think he'll be a bust.
Fair enough. I think a loan for Ramos is our best bet this summer. But assuming PSG aren’t privy who do we sign ?