Summer Transfer Budget?

[croadyman]

He has completely tanked staff morale its not a good look he may even be worse than the Glazers

Absolutely spot on, so happy to hear him and that pony tailed leech got booed at viewing party last night

 

[Woziak]

You’v forgot Diego Leon who we’v already signed and will be joining the squad in the summer.

He’s 18 years old moving to a foreign country, he will need 1 to 2 years to settle, I would say Amass is more likely to play next season.

 

[golden_blunder]

He’s 18 years old moving to a foreign country, he will need 1 to 2 years to settle, I would say Amass is more likely to play next season.

No guarantee. Personally I think Amass looks some way off PL football

 

[RedUntilDead]

I think Diego Leon will surprise people, he looks like a real player.....wouldn't be shocked if he displaces Dorgu.

 

[GaryLifo]

When Liverpool started their rebuild using the data analytics etc, they got a fair bit of mileage out of players like Milner, Lallana and Wijnaldum and probably a few I've forgotten. Players we'd likely have turned our noses up at- in fact I recall many on here scoffing at the idea of United buying Mane - what was it people said "you want to be midtable then buy players from midtable teams lolz"

We have to hope that this summer we see some really left-field bargains who come in and we all say "really? this guy?" or "never heard of him" but by the end of the season we are talking about what a fecking great signing they turned out to be. Brighton seem to do this every summer - albeit not all of them signed for pennies, but even so, their hit rate is beyond chance levels of excellence

 

[nmm85]

I think Diego Leon will surprise people, he looks like a real player.....wouldn't be shocked if he displaces Dorgu.

I'll be surprised if he makes a PL appearance next season. It's going to be a big change for him, so we will likely intergrade him slowly.

 

[Cassidy]

I think Diego Leon will surprise people, he looks like a real player.....wouldn't be shocked if he displaces Dorgu.

Why so?

 

[Onerealunited]

Neither Leon or Amass Will be in the team next year. Amass has shown that he isn’t ready to play in this level and should and rightly be loaned out to get used to senior football. Leon is 18, coming to a cold foreign country where the culture and language is so different. He will need to settle in to Europe and ideally he is also loaned out the first year to slowly get into foootball and culture in Europe

 

[Zed is not dead]

The Delap thread will shed some light on that question.

The Garnacho or Mainoo threads as well.

People tend to forget these low priced players took a long time to reach their level, and they did it away from the pressure associated with playing for a highly scrutinised club

 

[Woziak]

No guarantee. Personally I think Amass looks some way off PL football

And that’s my point Diego Will take 1/2 years to settle to establish himself.

 

[Reiver]

Neither Leon or Amass Will be in the team next year. Amass has shown that he isn’t ready to play in this level and should and rightly be loaned out to get used to senior football. Leon is 18, coming to a cold foreign country where the culture and language is so different. He will need to settle in to Europe and ideally he is also loaned out the first year to slowly get into foootball and culture in Europe

Highly scrutinised yes, but expectations have never been lower.

 

[ErikElevenHag]

Good scouting , eye for talent and some luck would make even 50m go a long way.

We've already seen the dross we bought for close to a billion pounds - Mount , Onana, Antony, Hojlund cost around 300m . They arent worth 30m

Why cant we ever buy the Caicedos, Enzos, Balebas, Cunhas for their low fees and always end up paying 3x their market rate 2 years later

When we are linked to players from lower clubs the idea is slagged off.

When we were linked to sander berge this place had a meltdown, the way he's played for fulham, he would have definitely improved our midfield.

 

[Dominos]

Is it totally unrealistic that we end up selling Bruno, Garnacho and Mainoo this summer?

We will have an absolute fortune to spend if we did.


(That's not even counting any potential sales of the players everyone knows we want rid of at all cost - Antony, Sancho, Rashford, Hojlund etc of which I'm sure some we'll fail to shift)

 

[Cassidy]

Is it totally unrealistic that we end up selling Bruno, Garnacho and Mainoo this summer?

We will have an absolute fortune to spend if we did.


(That's not even counting any potential sales of the players everyone knows we want rid of at all cost - Antony, Sancho, Rashford, Hojlund etc.)

I would keep Mainoo but sell the other 2 personally along with the obvious others.

 

[Dominos]

I would keep Mainoo but sell the other 2 personally along with the obvious others.

I'd argue Mainoo has less of a place in this team than Garnacho does. At the very least Garnacho has shown something to Amorim - if he ever improves his finishing he'll have a bucket load of goals to his name.

Mainoo just has no place in an Amorim team at all.

However, I am not a fan of selling based on Amorim's failing system. I still very much doubt Amorim will even make it to December.

 

[Cassidy]

I'd argue Mainoo has less of a place in this team than Garnacho does. At the very least Garnacho has shown something to Amorim - if he ever improves his finishing he'll have a bucket load of goals to his name.

Mainoo just has no place in an Amorim team at all.

However, I am not a fan of selling based on Amorim's failing system. I still very much doubt Amorim will even make it to December.

Personal opinion but Mainoo can play in midfield with the right partner (who we don’t have at the club) and with a bit more pace in the side elsewhere (backline) and his partner

I like Garnacho but I think his time is up here

My decision to sell has nothing to do with Amorim

We can do a lot with 100m for Bruno who is 30 and we need to be building the squad of the future

 

[MaMa given red]

When Liverpool started their rebuild using the data analytics etc, they got a fair bit of mileage out of players like Milner, Lallana and Wijnaldum and probably a few I've forgotten. Players we'd likely have turned our noses up at- in fact I recall many on here scoffing at the idea of United buying Mane - what was it people said "you want to be midtable then buy players from midtable teams lolz"

We have to hope that this summer we see some really left-field bargains who come in and we all say "really? this guy?" or "never heard of him" but by the end of the season we are talking about what a fecking great signing they turned out to be. Brighton seem to do this every summer - albeit not all of them signed for pennies, but even so, their hit rate is beyond chance levels of excellence

Good post.

Some people are still doing it now with Liam Delap.

Another example is Robertson from relegated Hull City for £8m.

Nearly every player Liverpool have signed in the last ten years has been from a mid table or lower club.

The key is to find these sort of low risk players who are young and hungry to succeed.

It's why I'd much rather sign Delap over Gyokeres.

 

[redNATION]

If we get 100m for Bruno, along with selling Rashford, Hjoljnd, Sancho, Garnacho and Antony, that should be 250-300m of sales alone, and whatever the budget is now, so should allow for a complete rebuild of midfield and attack. Casemiro should also be heading out but we won’t get anything for him.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

Good post.

Some people are still doing it now with Liam Delap.

Another example is Robertson from relegated Hull City for £8m.

Nearly every player Liverpool have signed in the last ten years has been from a mid table or lower club.

The key is to find these sort of low risk players who are young and hungry to succeed.

It's why I'd much rather sign Delap over Gyokeres.

We used to do that ourselves going right back. Irwin, Pallister and Bruce were not from what you would call sexy clubs.

 

[Winrar]

When Liverpool started their rebuild using the data analytics etc, they got a fair bit of mileage out of players like Milner, Lallana and Wijnaldum and probably a few I've forgotten. Players we'd likely have turned our noses up at- in fact I recall many on here scoffing at the idea of United buying Mane - what was it people said "you want to be midtable then buy players from midtable teams lolz"

We have to hope that this summer we see some really left-field bargains who come in and we all say "really? this guy?" or "never heard of him" but by the end of the season we are talking about what a fecking great signing they turned out to be. Brighton seem to do this every summer - albeit not all of them signed for pennies, but even so, their hit rate is beyond chance levels of excellence

This is what most of the successful midtable teams do, and now what we have to do.

Players like Wissa, Mateta, Ait Nouri for example were all brought in the neighborhood of 10m.

 

[MaMa given red]

We used to do that ourselves going right back. Irwin, Pallister and Bruce were not from what you would call sexy clubs.

True!

It's a big part of where we've gone wrong, splashing big fees and wages on players after they've 'made it'

It really shows how good Sir Alex and his scouts were, that we could spot them before the data era and Sir Alex recognised the hunger and personality that it takes to succeed.

 

[Fahad Jawaid]

As per Ducker article from Times we have 100M to spend which is excluding sales, realistically we should be able to rank in 100M, with Antony, Bayinder, Rashford and Sancho. Plus we might cash in Garnacho as well which seems very likely so assuming 50M we get for him that takes our overall budget to 250M (100M budget +150M (sales).

Now I strongly think we should concentrate on 4 signings but elite players who will make a huge difference to our team

1) Cunha (62M) - Brilliant player able to carry and dribble, physically strong and great eye for goal perfect for LAM in our system.

2) Gykores/Osinhem (55M) - Any of these two will work, they are both great goal scorers and will put fear into defenses.

3) Ederson (50M) - Strong midfielder who has engine and press resistant. Hopefully translates his ability into PL, plus his legs, physicality and ball playing ability to control the game will be a perfect platform for Maino to work alongside him.

4) Joan Garcia (20M)- GK - Very much needed to relegate Onana to number 2, you can not have a GK whom you can not trust to shit the bed in any important match.

I think this means we still have around 65M to spend. But these four signings will take us to places and make a considerable impact to our team.

 

[Nick.]

As per Ducker article from Times we have 100M to spend which is excluding sales, realistically we should be able to rank in 100M, with Antony, Bayinder, Rashford and Sancho. Plus we might cash in Garnacho as well which seems very likely so assuming 50M we get for him that takes our overall budget to 250M (100M budget +150M (sales).

Now I strongly think we should concentrate on 4 signings but elite players who will make a huge difference to our team

1) Cunha (62M) - Brilliant player able to carry and dribble, physically strong and great eye for goal perfect for LAM in our system.

2) Gykores/Osinhem (55M) - Any of these two will work, they are both great goal scorers and will put fear into defenses.

3) Ederson (50M) - Strong midfielder who has engine and press resistant. Hopefully translates his ability into PL, plus his legs, physicality and ball playing ability to control the game will be a perfect platform for Maino to work alongside him.

4) Joan Garcia (20M)- GK - Very much needed to relegate Onana to number 2, you can not have a GK whom you can not trust to shit the bed in any important match.

I think this means we still have around 65M to spend. But these four signings will take us to places and make a considerable impact to our team.

Idk how much he would cost but if we added Mbeumo to that we might actually challenge for something

 

[Drainy]

I think Diego Leon will surprise people, he looks like a real player.....wouldn't be shocked if he displaces Dorgu.

Expect to see more of Dorgu on the right then if anyone claims the left.

Unless we invest in the position in the transfer market, which probably isn't a priority.

 

[Red Rash]

As per Ducker article from Times we have 100M to spend which is excluding sales, realistically we should be able to rank in 100M, with Antony, Bayinder, Rashford and Sancho. Plus we might cash in Garnacho as well which seems very likely so assuming 50M we get for him that takes our overall budget to 250M (100M budget +150M (sales).

Now I strongly think we should concentrate on 4 signings but elite players who will make a huge difference to our team

1) Cunha (62M) - Brilliant player able to carry and dribble, physically strong and great eye for goal perfect for LAM in our system.

2) Gykores/Osinhem (55M) - Any of these two will work, they are both great goal scorers and will put fear into defenses.

3) Ederson (50M) - Strong midfielder who has engine and press resistant. Hopefully translates his ability into PL, plus his legs, physicality and ball playing ability to control the game will be a perfect platform for Maino to work alongside him.

4) Joan Garcia (20M)- GK - Very much needed to relegate Onana to number 2, you can not have a GK whom you can not trust to shit the bed in any important match.

I think this means we still have around 65M to spend. But these four signings will take us to places and make a considerable impact to our team.

Gyokeres, Osimhen and Ederson would probably only join if we had CL. No idea about Joan Garcia

 

[Cassidy]

Gyokeres, Osimhen and Ederson would probably only join if we had CL. No idea about Joan Garcia

Garcia looks really good and might even be available for less than 20m if his clubs gets relegated

 

[Avero]

------------------------------------ Gyokores
------------------------------------- Hojlund

--------------------- Cunha ---------------------- Bruno
-------------------- Zirkzee --------------------- Mount

- Dorgu ------------ Mainoo ---------- Ugarte ----------- Amad
-- León ------------ Wharton --------- Larsson ---------- Dalot

----------- Martinez ---------- De Ligt --------------- Yoro
------------- Shaw ------------- Maguire ----------- Mazraoui

------------------------------------- Garcia
------------------------------------- Onana

SQUAD
Vitek
Fredricson
Amass
Heaven
Collyer
Obi-Martin

OUT
Heaton (0)
Bayindir (0)
Evans (0)
Lindelof (0)
Malacia (0)
Eriksen (0)
Casemiro (10m)
Antony (25m)
Sancho (25m)
Rashford (40m)
Garnacho (50m)
TOTAL 150m

IN
Garcia (25m)
Larsson (40m)
Wharton (75m)
Cunha (65m)
Gyokores (65m)
TOTAL 270m

NET SPEND 120m

Where would this team finish?

 

[Gandalf]

I love how all the posts that involve us selling players assume that all of that money will be available to spend on new players. What have we seen from SJR to think that he will turn over all of that revenue to the recruitment department? If we raise 100M in sales there is every chance 75M of that goes towards operating costs and paying down the credit card.

 

[FortunaUtd]

No Jobe his younger brother

Let's hope we can beat Dortmund to the signing of the second Bellingham, at least.

 

[Avero]

I love how all the posts that involve us selling players assume that all of that money will be available to spend on new players. What have we seen from SJR to think that he will turn over all of that revenue to the recruitment department? If we raise 100M in sales there is every chance 75M of that goes towards operating costs and paying down the credit card.

I think most of us understand it's not that easy, but the net spend is easy to compare to previous transfer windows to ensure what we suggest is somewhat realistic.

We spent 110m in 2021, 220m in 2022, 150m in 2023 and 140m in 2024. So I took a guess that 100-120m will be possible this summer.

 

[Gandalf]

I think most of us understand it's not that easy, but the net spend is easy to compare to previous transfer windows to ensure what we suggest is somewhat realistic.

We spent 110m in 2021, 220m in 2022, 150m in 2023 and 140m in 2024. So I took a guess that 100-120m will be possible this summer.

I don't disagree but I would caution that a lot of that was done under the Glazers who were happy to keep piling up the debts. Sir Jim seems fairly intent on reigning in the spending so I am just considering the possibility he will divert revenue from player sales to other parts of the operation.

 

[daba]

Hypothetically let’s say Cunha and Delap are done and the sale of Bruno and Garnacho opens up another 150m to spend.

How you spending it?

 

[Avero]

I don't disagree but I would caution that a lot of that was done under the Glazers who were happy to keep piling up the debts. Sir Jim seems fairly intent on reigning in the spending so I am just considering the possibility he will divert revenue from player sales to other parts of the operation.

That’s a fair point. But it will probably be hard for him to say no to transfer spending now that we finish ~16th and quite a few players seem to be leaving.

 

[FlawlessVictory88]

Hypothetically let’s say Cunha and Delap are done and the sale of Bruno and Garnacho opens up another 150m to spend.

How you spending it?

Elliot Anderson/Mateus Fernandes for CM as replacements for Bruno/Erikson.

Zabarnyi at CB.

 

[redNATION]

Hypothetically let’s say Cunha and Delap are done and the sale of Bruno and Garnacho opens up another 150m to spend.

How you spending it?

Ederson, Wharton for CM, Mbuemo as another AM, and Garcia in goal.

 

[Nick.]

The budget is thought to be £100m. Then you can add on extra for sales

 

[daba]

Ederson, Wharton for CM, Mbuemo as another AM, and Garcia in goal.

If you're suggesting Ederson or Wharton, then absolutely.

No way the budget stretches to both though.

Elliot Anderson/Mateus Fernandes for CM as replacements for Bruno/Erikson.

Zabarnyi at CB.

Anderson would be great but with Forest in Europe I struggle to see it. Similar case with Wharton though tbf. Would be intrigued by Mateus Fernandes if we signed someone else, who that is I'm not sure.

Zabarnyi has had a great season but if we're investing in a CB in the summer they need to either be a specialist CCB who can drop into midfield like Ruben likes, or a wide CB who is highly progressive. I don't think Zabarnyi is either of those as solid as good as he has been this year.

 

[VP89]

The budget is thought to be £100m. Then you can add on extra for sales

So Cunha Delap, well Garnacho and get Mbuemo and use the other sales to fund a CM.

If we are lucky maybe offload Onana too

 

[Nick.]

So Cunha Delap, well Garnacho and get Mbuemo and use the other sales to fund a CM.

If we are lucky maybe offload Onana too

Yeah we can def spend a decent amount if there are sales which I think we all anticipate. I'd like mbeumo too but idk what his market value is. Idk how to feel about selling Bruno either but hopefully we can shift rashford antony sancho and garnacho

 

[FlawlessVictory88]

If you're suggesting Ederson or Wharton, then absolutely.

No way the budget stretches to both though.


Anderson would be great but with Forest in Europe I struggle to see it. Similar case with Wharton though tbf. Would be intrigued by Mateus Fernandes if we signed someone else, who that is I'm not sure.

Zabarnyi has had a great season but if we're investing in a CB in the summer they need to either be a specialist CCB who can drop into midfield like Ruben likes, or a wide CB who is highly progressive. I don't think Zabarnyi is either of those as solid as good as he has been this year.

Disagree on Zabarnyi, think he's one of the best young CB's in Europe and should be a high priority if we had money available.

For cheaper options I'd look at Ribeiro at Lille or Jacquet if you wanna go for another Yoro type signing.