So the season is officially over and we are back in the CL. Jose has already given Woody a list of targets. Looks like Griezmann is all but ours. So what else do we need?
Summer Transfer Window 2017
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Anybody know when deadline day is this summer?
Usually August 31st, but sometimes it's September 1, 2, or 3
Usually August 31st, but sometimes it's September 1, 2, or 3
August 31st this year.
Bernardo Silva, Central midfielder and Central defender.
Thanks
Looks like Silva isn't a target from Jose's comments. Now that we have CL, we should go for Sanchez or Bale
Left back and striker also (Lukaku) but we obviously won't get all them unless perhaps DDG goes.
Yes, a striker is a must. My choice would be Morata. I think he will be the best suited to play alongside Griezmann. I'm not sure about LB though. We don't have any top LB but we have so many who can play there like Darmian, Blind, Shaw, Young and even Rojo if needed. We also have CBJ and Demetri Mitchell ready to step up. So LB doesn't seem to be a top priority at the moment.
I think Jose playing down on this targets,he can't openly say he needs Silva which might encourage the selling club to up his market price,also did he say like good player's are always welcome.Looks like Silva isn't a target from Jose's comments. Now that we have CL, we should go for Sanchez or Bale
Sanchez is Bayern bound, he would be great addition but I doubt Arsenal would sell him to us.
Bale on wings is
,but his injury concern worries me a bit.After Griezmann I think a left back,striker, ball playing CB (directly replacing Jones/Smalling), and a wide option (because I can't trust Martial and Mkhi to both turn it on). In terms of priority I think we can ignore the CB because all our central defenders have both shown something over the season to justify their place in the squad but left back and the wings have been a huge disappointment so we definitely need players there. A striker is a must because Rashford and Martial are both hit and miss which could see us knocked out of title contention by the time Zlatan returns or the January window opens.
When does the transfer window open,June 1 ?
He said he already handed in a list 2 months ago, so who were we linked 2 months ago?
July 1st.
We might announce a deal as early as the next 10 days, but I think the majority of business will be announced once the window is open and once vacations are over.
We might announce a deal as early as the next 10 days, but I think the majority of business will be announced once the window is open and once vacations are over.
Atleast now we have a chance with any player! I'm expecting some blockbuster signings. A lot can happen this summer. Let's see if we have any thread that can match last season's Pogba threadI think Jose playing down on this targets,he can't openly say he needs Silva which might encourage the selling club to up his market price,also did he say like good player's are always welcome.
Sanchez is Bayern bound, he would be great addition but I doubt Arsenal would sell him to us.
Bale on wings is
Something I'm struggling with is "who's going to leave?"
Our problem is that we have too many 6/10 players that can perform at 8/10 in the occasional game. Jones, Smalling, Fellaini, Darmian, Young, Rooney. You could have put Rojo in that list as well previously.
Our problem is that we have too many 6/10 players that can perform at 8/10 in the occasional game. Jones, Smalling, Fellaini, Darmian, Young, Rooney. You could have put Rojo in that list as well previously.
Only Rooney will leave for sure. Fellaini won't leave since Jose clearly likes him. Darmian has stepped up big time in the last few months. Jones, Smalling and Young are 50/50 at the moment. It also depends on what other clubs are willing to bid for our players. We can get a decent fee for Darmian and Smalling but the rest won't be worth much. So, we could as well end up keeping them till the end of their contract. Pretty hard to decide with this lot.
I'm going to presume Griezmann is basically a done deal. Too much smoke.
I think we need another striker if Ibra doesn't stay. Someone who's a fox in the box and bags goals. Belotti, Lukaku, etc. Someone of that ilk.
Personally think we need 2 central midfielders. Someone capable of playing a holding role and someone who's more of a box to box profile.
A wide forward capable of goals/getting past their man. Bale would be brilliant, but those injury issues he keeps having are a major concern. I don't think Silva will leave Monaco this season. Douglas Costa is a potential option, but his form has drastically declined. I think Alexis won't be sold to a PL rival. Can't think of anyone else.
I think Jose won't look for a LB, because there's 3 options there although neither are ideal to be a starter. Would have to guess this is the last straw season for Shaw if no LB is brought in. So I think a CB is needed, because we can't rely on our current crop to stay fit. Someone next to Bailly who's got the ability to distribute from the back would be a nice bonus, but I don't know if Jose will look for that.
So 6 total additions plus some players leaving potentially.
I think we need another striker if Ibra doesn't stay. Someone who's a fox in the box and bags goals. Belotti, Lukaku, etc. Someone of that ilk.
Personally think we need 2 central midfielders. Someone capable of playing a holding role and someone who's more of a box to box profile.
A wide forward capable of goals/getting past their man. Bale would be brilliant, but those injury issues he keeps having are a major concern. I don't think Silva will leave Monaco this season. Douglas Costa is a potential option, but his form has drastically declined. I think Alexis won't be sold to a PL rival. Can't think of anyone else.
I think Jose won't look for a LB, because there's 3 options there although neither are ideal to be a starter. Would have to guess this is the last straw season for Shaw if no LB is brought in. So I think a CB is needed, because we can't rely on our current crop to stay fit. Someone next to Bailly who's got the ability to distribute from the back would be a nice bonus, but I don't know if Jose will look for that.
So 6 total additions plus some players leaving potentially.
Last summer we signed Pogba, Micky, Bailly and Zlatan with no champions league. Exciting summer transfer window!
What did he say?Looks like Silva isn't a target from Jose's comments. Now that we have CL, we should go for Sanchez or Bale
And I must be the only one not wanting Bale.
Surely one of Smalling/Jones, Rooney and Young I'd say.
This could mean anything but somehow I think he's not top priority. Usually, if its a player that we want to sign, Jose says he won't comment about other club's players. But this sounds like he is politely saying United are not in for him.
So if those quotes are real regarding Silva, Mourinho declined to comment on Griezmann saying it's disrespectful to comment about players of other clubs but yet he commented on Silva?
Those 6/10 players are not the problem bar Rooney because if everyone is performing they are squad players and they do their job well. Its the supposed 10/10 players that worry me more - the ouyput we have had from Martial, Mkhitaryan and Mata in attack has been woefully short and Shaw doesn't seem like he will work out at all. We obviously need to be giving Martial and Mkhi another chance but can we really expect more from Mata. Don't get me wrong he is a good player but his style and physical attributes limit the type of games he can be relied upon in and that in turn affects his output. People are always talking about upgrades and the like but can't we upgrade on him by bringing someone in who is as productive but also a bit more explosive that teams would need to make special plans to stop him?
Thanks. I gather he was asked directly about Silva then.
Just sort out left back and the attack please.
Yes, exactly! I'm not too bothered though. Silva is good but there are other equally good options out there.So if those quotes are real regarding Silva, Mourinho declined to comment on Griezmann saying it's disrespectful to comment about players of other clubs but yet he commented on Silva?
Time to get some clinical players embedded in the set up.
Players who pop up in those spaces where you know someone should be.
Players who are willing to take a chance when the opportunity is there.
Caution has been a clear tactic this season, for good reason...we don't have enough of the above.
I'm looking forward to some changes.
Players who pop up in those spaces where you know someone should be.
Players who are willing to take a chance when the opportunity is there.
Caution has been a clear tactic this season, for good reason...we don't have enough of the above.
I'm looking forward to some changes.
Not really bothered about who we sign as long as it makes us start playing like a team again when we attack because let's face it, before Mourinho we were clueless defensively and offensively even if stats say otherwise during that last van Gaal season with De Gea making ridiculous saves game after game.
Mourinho has managed to fix our defensive side of the game and to some extent has greatly improved our midfield play but we are too much reliant on Pogba. We lack ideas going forward when Pogba is having a bad day and we can't keep relying on 1 player if we want to challenge for the title. Our other problem is finishing, Pogba alone would probably have had over 20 assists this season if our team scored half the sitters he set them up for.
Mourinho will most likely ship either Smalling or Jones out, sign a CB, LB, striker and a winger. Maybe another CM but it depends on what he's going for next season.
I just hope we don't fall the trap of signing shiny players with lots of sparkle and no substance.
Mourinho has managed to fix our defensive side of the game and to some extent has greatly improved our midfield play but we are too much reliant on Pogba. We lack ideas going forward when Pogba is having a bad day and we can't keep relying on 1 player if we want to challenge for the title. Our other problem is finishing, Pogba alone would probably have had over 20 assists this season if our team scored half the sitters he set them up for.
Mourinho will most likely ship either Smalling or Jones out, sign a CB, LB, striker and a winger. Maybe another CM but it depends on what he's going for next season.
I just hope we don't fall the trap of signing shiny players with lots of sparkle and no substance.
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It's a shame about those comments. If it's Rodriguez over Silva I'll be a little disappointed, but Rodriguez is a fantastic player regardless, I just enjoy watching Silva and and his dribbling ability.
Griezmann would be our blockbuster signing. I am expecting more signing in mold to E.Bailly this season.Atleast now we have a chance with any player! I'm expecting some blockbuster signings. A lot can happen this summer. Let's see if we have any thread that can match last season's Pogba thread
I think we need to make Pereira the back up to Pogba and that settles the creativity issues when Pogba is out/having a bad day. What we need more besides signings is players like Mkhi and Martial playing to their true potential which could be directly related to the team's tactical set up or the coaching itself. If we have these guys playing like we know they can then Griezmann and a striker (Auba/Morata/Belotti) should be enough to turn our attacking fortunes around.
Agree with the blockbuster signing. Don't think we will top it this summer.
As for your Bailly signing - Michael Keane looks a done deal & i'd be happy to go with that. Very solid, young, great spacial awareness & reading of the game. Plus he's an academy player & knows the club inside out!
I'm hoping that we give Shaw a full run of games & don't sign a LB. It'll be like a new signing (again!). Clearly the guy's got the ability, but unsure whether he's a Mourinho type player.
I wonder if we'll sign Perisic like the rumours suggested. Would fit into that Willian style winger profile which Mourinho currently lacks with us.
Won't cost an arm or a leg either.
Personally I am hoping that it was Kovacic we scouted when Mourinho and co were present for the Croatia match though.
Won't cost an arm or a leg either.
Personally I am hoping that it was Kovacic we scouted when Mourinho and co were present for the Croatia match though.
I hope we get our deals done as early as possible, as Mourinho seems to do every summer where ever he is. Given Woody has had a couple months notice, moves should already be in place. I can see DDG leaving along with Zlatan and Rooney and some other fringe players. So Im expecting some very good singings.
If we sign Griezmann, which looks likely, then our next concern would be bringing in a top quality wide forward. Someone with dribbling ability who can score from nothing.
I think Sanchez would be perfect but it's not very likely.
I think Sanchez would be perfect but it's not very likely.
If we are going for Griezmann, there's rumours that he wants the move sorted himself before he goes away on his honeymoon in 3 weeks.
Not sure whether Zlatan / Rooney will be off, but i think the ball is fully in Rooney's court as it sounded in the interview with Mourinho yesterday. Zlatan.. think he might stay now we're in the CL. If he's back in December, he can do at least 6 months with us, then move into a coaching role.. hopefully.
Mkhi has always done well in his second season at a club if you look at his history. So hopefully he does it here too. Martial and Shaw are the ones I'm really worried about. This year can be forgotten for various reasons but they need to step it up next year, no excuses. Rashford is doing his best but he also has a lot of improving to do. If these 4 players can step it up in addition to our new signings(expecting 2 in attacking areas), we'll have a very successful season. I'm expecting us to line up something like this,
New CF/Rashford
Mkhi/Martial---Griezmann----Mata/Lingard
Mkhi/Martial---Griezmann----Mata/Lingard
Mbappe liked the Champions League's Instagram accounts post saying we are back in the UCL! It's on! 
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I've been thinking this for a while now, but imagine if the first game De Gea plays for Madrid is against us in the Super Cup (assuming Madrid sign him and win the CL).
I wouldn't mind that of course. But it's not easy to find such gems especially in attacking positions. One player I can think of is Leandro Parades as a replacement for Carrick. He is a deep lying playmaker and a set-piece specialist too. In attack, maybe Andre Silva but he is also quite young.