How good is this kid?France Football are saying we're are the club trying hardest to sign him. I sincerely hope this is true, would be a huge upgrade in midfield.
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By most accounts Aouar is meant to be the bigger talent, but not necessarily the most eye-catching in terms of his style of play.How is he positionally? I've heard good things about his midfield partner Aouar too (20 years old) but he's a bit of a midget.
He's 6'-8", hence the reason Jose wants him.How good is this kid?
Is he a 6 or a 8?
That's not exactly true, Aouar was under the spotlight sooner because he was playing for a much bigger team but Ndombélé is currently seen as the bees knees.By most accounts Aouar is meant to be the bigger talent, but not necessarily the most eye-catching in terms of his style of play.
As in, too many runners over creativity?Pogba, Fred and Ndombele looks like overkill to me.
He will be here to replace PogbaPogba, Fred and Ndombele looks like overkill to me.
All are pretty creative. No tempo player, someone dictating the play.As in, too many runners over creativity?
Pretty confident we won't sell Pogba.He will be here to replace Pogba
Got the feeling this Aouar is a better talent and we are just going for this kid cuz he is tall and physically strong.By most accounts Aouar is meant to be the bigger talent, but not necessarily the most eye-catching in terms of his style of play.
6ft 8? Is this for realHe's 6'-8", hence the reason Jose wants him.
You probably need to watch him because it's actually his technique and ability to move with the ball that makes him standout.Got the feeling this Aouar is a better talent and we are just going for this kid cuz he is tall and physically strong.
Rather keep McTom.
If you would rather keep McTom than have Ndombele, I suggest you watch Ndombele play. He isnt just a tall and physically strong player, he is absolte class and a million miles better than McTom.Got the feeling this Aouar is a better talent and we are just going for this kid cuz he is tall and physically strong.
Rather keep McTom.
Aouar is playing/has played the same positions as Pogba, while NDombele plays on the right, which would suit us perfectly.Got the feeling this Aouar is a better talent and we are just going for this kid cuz he is tall and physically strong.
Rather keep McTom.
NDombele can somewhat do that and he is young enough to develop that skill more.All are pretty creative. No tempo player, someone dictating the play.
Pretty confident we won't sell Pogba.
He's closer to Mousa Dembele. Also, recently Genesio has played Aouar and NDombele without Tousart and it worked out fine mostly.It'd be a waste of resources going for him unless we sell one of Pogba or Fred. He's not a defensive player, he's very similar to Pogba just without the goals. He's a class player though.
You should watch him then. His passing is what stood out the most to me.Watched a few videos. Don't see anything impressive. No real vision or passing range, slow decision making so constantly getting into physical battles to keep the ball. He has nice feet but he plays with his head down. Basically all the worst parts of Pogba without the good parts.
Somebody tell me why we should be interested in this player.
He's not that tall - 5'9. He's more physical and a more powerful runner with the ball than Aouar, but Aouar can play well all across midfield and the wings and is a more technical player as well as being the one who works hard to close down and try and make tackles. N'Dombele is more the one positioning himself deeper to try and pick up the stray passes that the pressure in front of him is forcing.Got the feeling this Aouar is a better talent and we are just going for this kid cuz he is tall and physically strong.
Rather keep McTom.
Thanks but Aouar seems the type we need....it is time we move towards recruiting technical players.He's not that tall - 5'9. He's more physical and a more powerful runner with the ball than Aouar, but Aouar can play well all across midfield and the wings and is a more technical player as well as being the one who works hard to close down and try and make tackles. N'Dombele is more the one positioning himself deeper to try and pick up the stray passes that the pressure in front of him is forcing.
So a bit like a dribbling version of Carrick, not sure how well he'd do without someone pressing well in front of him. But we have Ander and Fred who could do that so might be fine
Really? That's mad. I specifically looked out for his passing. I've watched his highlights from several games now. He played a couple of very nice through balls to forwards, however he rarely stretched or opened up the game with a pass. Generally his passes were short and simple, albeit executed well. I saw no signs of any real vision in his passing. He seems to only see what's going on close to him.You should watch him then. His passing is what stood out the most to me.
For all the superior people here: that's 181 cm.He's not that tall - 5'9.
NDombele has completed more tackles this season than Aouar (NDombele is also more efficient so far this season and last season), while Aouar has made more interceptions.He's not that tall - 5'9. He's more physical and a more powerful runner with the ball than Aouar, but Aouar can play well all across midfield and the wings and is a more technical player as well as being the one who works hard to close down and try and make tackles. N'Dombele is more the one positioning himself deeper to try and pick up the stray passes that the pressure in front of him is forcing.
So a bit like a dribbling version of Carrick, not sure how well he'd do without someone pressing well in front of him. But we have Ander and Fred who could do that so might be fine
Maybe you shouldn't and actually take the time to watch him properly. It's also hardly fair to compare him to Scholes at 21 years of age. If you can, try to find the City match and watch both Aouar and NDombele in that one. They both looked very comfortable against a tough opponent.Really? That's mad. I specifically looked out for his passing. I've watched his highlights from several games now. He played a couple of very nice through balls to forwards, however he rarely stretched or opened up the game with a pass. Generally his passes were short and simple, albeit executed well. I saw no signs of any real vision in his passing. He seems to only see what's going on close to him.
He plays with his head down. Seems to constantly have to dribble out of trouble. When did you ever see Scholes having to physically battle or dribble past 2-3 players just to keep the ball. He'd just sort it out with one feint or pass. Top midfielders always seem to have time. This guy seems to need about 3 drag backs every time he gets it just to avoid losing it.
Admittedly I'm just going on a few youtube videos.
Ndombele is just as good technically if not better. He's press resistance is incredible . I'd take both of them and ship out fellaini and matic . They dominated Citys midfieldThanks but Aouar seems the type we need....it is time we move towards recruiting technical players.
We need to scout City scouts....whoever they are scouting we should make an immediate bid for the playerNdombele is just as good technically if not better. He's press resistance is incredible . I'd take both of them and ship out fellaini and matic . They dominated Citys midfield
I've watched some of both now. Even from just from watching 20 mins of highlights I have to say that to me NDombele looks like a bad player. Any midfielder that plays with his head down and tries to rely on strength and dribbling all the time is in for trouble. I hope we steer well clear.NDombele has completed more tackles this season than Aouar (NDombele is also more efficient so far this season and last season), while Aouar has made more interceptions.
Maybe you shouldn't and actually take the time to watch him properly. It's also hardly fair to compare him to Scholes at 21 years of age. If you can, try to find the City match and watch both Aouar and NDombele in that one. They both looked very comfortable against a tough opponent.
We've been doing that for a while. It's not working out well (Sanchez, Fred)We need to scout City scouts....whoever they are scouting we should make an immediate bid for the player
I agree. I see Aouar as the type of midfielder who could end up bossing Barcelona or Real Madrid's midfield as their best CM or as a left sided player a bit like Iniesta played it for a number of years. As such I feel like he's probably priceless to Lyon for the foreseeable future and only one of the highest transfer fees in football takes him away.Thanks but Aouar seems the type we need....it is time we move towards recruiting technical players.
That was a ploy by City so we get suckered into it.We've been doing that for a while. It's not working out well (Sanchez, Fred)
Agree 100%I agree. I see Aouar as the type of midfielder who could end up bossing Barcelona or Real Madrid's midfield as their best CM or as a left sided player a bit like Iniesta played it for a number of years. As such I feel like he's probably priceless to Lyon for the foreseeable future and only one of the highest transfer fees in football takes him away.
N'Dombele on the other hand I can see Lyon being keen to cash in on him because they got him pretty cheap and would probably be fine without him. I can't see him being that same CM at Barcelona or Madrid for example because he's a different type of player and I'm not convinced he's as technically sound as they'd demand in that short passing and technical style. He's still a very good young CM though he's just probably not quite on the level where every top team would make space for him like Aouar might potentially be.
I'm not sure we're at a level where we can get even close to players like that right now. I think N'Dombele is more in our range