Tariq Lamptey

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He's played regularly as a RB, as well as MR and DMR. Tariq Lamptey Positions | FootballCritic

I'm not surprised we're interested - before he got injured last season, he was at times absolutely dominant offensively. It goes way beyond pace, he looks really gifted technically and creatively. A special talent. It's hard not to find the prospect tempting. Whether he can be a bread-and-butter all-round RB with good defensive command can hardly be called well established, at the very least. Size and strength and not least durability are concerns, but his amazing speed should help him.
 

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The player he reminds me of the most is Adama Traore when he was playing at RB.

Ps ' I've heard rumours of Traore being targeted to play as Conte's RB/RWB aswell.
 

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I'd use the money elsewhere whilst we see if Laird has what it takes.

We already have 3 RBs on our books so who are we selling? Dalot is probably in better form so it would be odd to push him out and keep AWB.
Surely the point is that we don't have any RBs who have delivered a reasonable basis for assuming they can feature regularly in a team that challenges for the PL. Waiting another year to see if a fourth one (Laird) can do that immediately, which at this stage seems hugely optimistic, may not be the best approach.

Lamptey would at least provide us with a highly potent offensive weapon on the right back position, which none of the others are by any stretch of imagination. Also, he would remove the key bottleneck for playing three at the back (the lack of an adequate RWB), should we want to do that.
 

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The player he reminds me of the most is Adama Traore when he was playing at RB.

Ps ' I've heard rumours of Traore being targeted to play as Conte's RB/RWB aswell.
How do you figure that? Firstly he is Traore's exact opposite in what is one of AT's chief characteristics as a player, his physique. Secondly, Lamptey looks to me really good at reading offensive situations, getting into good positions and generally adding creativity, which is ATs most glaring shortcoming.

In fact, pretty much the only things they have in common is that they're both very fast and right-sided.
 
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Called this happening eventually about 18 months ago. No progressive manager was putting up with AWB.
 

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The player he reminds me of the most is Adama Traore when he was playing at RB.

Ps ' I've heard rumours of Traore being targeted to play as Conte's RB/RWB aswell.
What? How? Traore is shite technically and the only real thing he has going for him is he's built like a brick shit house, Lamptey is great on the ball but if he's outside in anything more than a mild breeze he'd probably get blown away.
 

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What? How? Traore is shite technically and the only real thing he has going for him is he's built like a brick shit house, Lamptey is great on the ball but if he's outside in anything more than a mild breeze he'd probably get blown away.
Much as I agree with your general objection, Traore is hardly shite technically. On the contrary, I think he's very good technically. He wouldn't be able to dribble the way he does or get away from opponents in cramped areas if he wasn't. He just doesn't read the play well or make good decisions.
 

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I'd use the money elsewhere whilst we see if Laird has what it takes.

We already have 3 RBs on our books so who are we selling? Dalot is probably in better form so it would be odd to push him out and keep AWB.
I don't think it's at all impossible that we see both Dalot and AWB leave over the next few years as neither are really good enough. At 20 years old Laird still has plenty of time to get into the side, he's fine getting regular gametime on loan for now.
 

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Much as I agree with your general objection, Traore is hardly shite technically. On the contrary, I think he's very good technically. He wouldn't be able to dribble the way he does or get away from opponents in cramped areas if he wasn't. He just doesn't read the play well or make good decisions.
Maybe not in a dribbling sense I suppose but his passing, crossing & finishing is largely wank.
 

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Surely the point is that we don't have any RBs who have delivered a reasonable basis for assuming they can feature regularly in a team that challenges for the PL. Waiting another year to see if a fourth one (Laird) can do that immediately, which at this stage seems hugely optimistic, may not be the best approach.

Lamptey would at least provide us with a highly potent offensive weapon on the right back position, which none of the others are by any stretch of imagination. Also, he would remove the key bottleneck for playing three at the back (the lack of an adequate RWB), should we want to do that.
I don't necessarily disagree with any of that I just think our focus should be on positions where we don't have anyone coming through first. Youth products save a lot of money and allow you to invest more heavily elsewhere.

Sir Alex nearly always made sure their were gaps for youth to step into. If you don't you end up holding back talent and wasting money.
 

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Definitely a wing back rather than a RB. His lack of height would be a problem in a back four. Against teams that play a more direct approach, you'd want your tallest forward up against lamptey as he'd pretty much win every header and flick on.

Would be kinda ironic than LVG got rid of Raphael for being too short for a RB and then we go back to recruitng a short RB.
Never understood the need for a tall RB. If anything, being tall usually means you are less agile. Typically, the best fullbacks are not very tall - Evra, Cole, Alves, Lahm etc.(TAA is not good defensively)
 

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Never understood the need for a tall RB. If anything, being tall usually means you are less agile. Typically, the best fullbacks are not very tall - Evra, Cole, Alves, Lahm etc.(TAA is not good defensively)
Yeah but he's quite a bit shorter than all of them even, not even 5ft 4 whilst some of those like Alves are over 5ft 6.

He's pretty much the smallest player in the entire Premier League, I think it would be concerning about how well he can deal with crosses to the back post if he's trying to mark someone half a foot taller.
 

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I got excited when I saw this thread trending but realize it's nothing to do with a credible transfer :(
 

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I don't necessarily disagree with any of that I just think our focus should be on positions where we don't have anyone coming through first. Youth products save a lot of money and allow you to invest more heavily elsewhere.

Sir Alex nearly always made sure their were gaps for youth to step into. If you don't you end up holding back talent and wasting money.
Sure, that's ideal. But with Laird, the issue is if he's going to make the squad next season, not if he's going to be the main man on RB.
 

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That website your link goes to looks quite good, although I'm not sure how they can put Sancho top of the in form players.

I never knew that Lamptey is a former Chelsea youth player, they really shouldn't have let him go.
I wouldn't put much weight on the player ratings, but it's a really useful site for certain pieces of information. For instance, they also show which formations teams have used in different games.