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What’s the caf attitude on these boycotts of French products?

Seems to be a bit misguided to me. Were they just as vocal/active when they heard of the violence done in Islam’s name (the attack on Hebdo HQ, the latest beheading, etc)?
 

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What’s the caf attitude on these boycotts of French products?

Seems to be a bit misguided to me. Were they just as vocal/active when they heard of the violence done in Islam’s name (the attack on Hebdo HQ, the latest beheading, etc)?
Well they did it to us too(Denmark) when it all originated as well as burn down our embassies and around 200 people over the world were killed in riots over it. I find it absurd beyond belief and the whole thing turned me off Islam as a religion for good. However I still find actual boycotts far more tastefull than chopping off people head's for it or blowing up people because of it, so I find it more preferable that they boycott rather than commit violence or incite to violence over it. I just feel that maybe boycotting Myanmar for their treatment of Rohingya muslims or boycotting China for their treatment of uighurs would carry a bit more weight. But of course boycotting China would be financial suicide, so there is that.
 

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It has to taken in the bigger picture. The beheading is horrible and should not have happened at all. No one should condone it or accept it. Everyone should condemn it.
It's the freedom of speech in some countries.
But what is very hypocritical is the uproar about the boycott. France can't have it both ways. Marcon can't have the cartoons approved by him and then don't accept when some people call for a boycott of French products. Also get involved in the domestic matters in Muslim countries in supporting radical muslim groups.
I personally think that some people want a clash between Muslims and others in Europe for their own gains.
Yes Muslims are not a homogeneous group and mostly different people from different cultures think differently. Most majority of Muslims would not accept the cartoons but only an extreme minority would advocate violent action but unfortunately even one is too many.
 

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What’s the caf attitude on these boycotts of French products?

Seems to be a bit misguided to me. Were they just as vocal/active when they heard of the violence done in Islam’s name (the attack on Hebdo HQ, the latest beheading, etc)?
I get your point but this proposed boycott isn't solely in response to the French's response to the beheading. Rather, it is a build up of many years of tensions which have arisen due to France's muscular liberal approach to multiculturalism and plurality, especially when it concerns Islam.

Considering also, that Muslims by far comprise the largest group in terms of victims of "Islamic terrorism", I'm confused why you think Muslims should be doing more than what has already been said and done? And that's before we even consider some of the abhorrent shit the French did in their colonies in West and North Africa. As far as I can see, every French Muslim in the public eye as well as any Muslim public-facing group in the country roundly condemned the actions of a few weeks ago, as well as when Bataclan and the Charlie Hebdo attacks happened.

The beheading was abhorrent and its perpetrators deserved rebuke in the harshest possible terms but it should never have been used as a pretext to some of the widest ranging curbs on freedom of expresssion and religion anywhere in western world. If the French want to live by this mantra of muscular liberalism at all costs, then they should be big enough to take these repercussions also. As these countries and their citizens are more than welcome to any form of protest as they deem appropriate.
 

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What’s the caf attitude on these boycotts of French products?

Seems to be a bit misguided to me. Were they just as vocal/active when they heard of the violence done in Islam’s name (the attack on Hebdo HQ, the latest beheading, etc)?
What do you mean "they" ? and I don't understand when this racist myth of "well they never condemn terrorists" would end. Did you even see attendents of that protest?
 

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Well they did it to us too(Denmark) when it all originated as well as burn down our embassies and around 200 people over the world were killed in riots over it. I find it absurd beyond belief and the whole thing turned me off Islam as a religion for good. However I still find actual boycotts far more tastefull than chopping off people head's for it or blowing up people because of it, so I find it more preferable that they boycott rather than commit violence or incite to violence over it. I just feel that maybe boycotting Myanmar for their treatment of Rohingya muslims or boycotting China for their treatment of uighurs would carry a bit more weight. But of course boycotting China would be financial suicide, so there is that.
Thanks for clarifying. Your complete misunderstandings of Islam as exposed in other threads can at least now be attributed to your bias of how a portion of a religious group reacted to their religion being insulted.
 

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What’s the caf attitude on these boycotts of French products?

Seems to be a bit misguided to me. Were they just as vocal/active when they heard of the violence done in Islam’s name (the attack on Hebdo HQ, the latest beheading, etc)?
Meh, just Erdogan doing his politics thingy. Playing to his self-credited role as protector of Muslims everywhere. Unless it's China or Myanmar as @Shamana pointed out, or anywhere where Turkey has not immediate interests or gains to make.

Basically France is opposing Turkey in their new assertive role in the Mediterranean, North Africa and the Middle East. So any excuse for French bashing is not going to go amiss by Erdogan.
 

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Meh, just Erdogan doing his politics thingy. Playing to his self-credited role as protector of Muslims everywhere. Unless it's China or Myanmar as @Shamana pointed out, or anywhere where Turkey has not immediate interests or gains to make.

Basically France is opposing Turkey in their new assertive role in the Mediterranean, North Africa and the Middle East. So any excuse for French bashing is not going to go amiss by Erdogan.
Kuwait has cleared shelves of French products. It's a much wider issue.
 

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Thanks for clarifying. Your complete misunderstandings of Islam as exposed in other threads can at least now be attributed to your bias of how a portion of a religious group reacted to their religion being insulted.
We already covered this in another thread. You're more than welcome to clarify in that thread what my misunderstanding was.
 

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Erdogan may be dictator and getting involved in the middle East where he actually is but this has got nothing to do with him.
France has done more damage to the middle East and muslim countries recently than Erdogan ever has so far.
If Muslims want to boycott French goods they also have the freedom to do so just like the French have the freedom to display the cartoons.
 

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I personally think that some people want a clash between Muslims and others in Europe for their own gains.
Yes Muslims are not a homogeneous group and mostly different people from different cultures think differently. Most majority of Muslims would not accept the cartoons but only an extreme minority would advocate violent action but unfortunately even one is too many.
What do you mean 'most muslims would not accept the cartoons'? If you don't accept them you're just as much the problem as the 'extreme minority' that advocates violent action.

The question here wether religious rules apply to the non-religous too. Not accepting the cartoons is essentially different from not drawing or spreading the cartoons because that's not acceptable for muslims because of their own reliigous rules. Just like some people don't eat shellfish, don't work on sundays and don't swear. Not accepting that infidels don't abide you're religious rules is an attack on the same freedom of religion that allows muslims to practice their religion in Europe in the first place.

So either you believe in freedom of religion so everybody with different beliefs can live together, or you believe that islam rules supreme and other people have to abide to islamic rules too. For the latter is no place in Europe, but there are many. Also when it comes to alcohol, eating porc, christian symbols, not wearing a veil, holocaust education a lot of muslims don't respect the freedom
I get your point but this proposed boycott isn't solely in response to the French's response to the beheading. Rather, it is a build up of many years of tensions which have arisen due to France's muscular liberal approach to multiculturalism and plurality, especially when it concerns Islam.
No, it's not. It's not about multiculturalism and plurality, it's about the monocultural and single minded oppressive islam running havoc through France. Just like islam is wrecking societies everywhere because it's intolerant by nature and design. France hasn't been muscular uptil now, France just has the biggest problem with islam because it has the most muslims and isn't bending over as easily as the British.

The beheading was abhorrent and its perpetrators deserved rebuke in the harshest possible terms but it should never have been used as a pretext to some of the widest ranging curbs on freedom of expresssion and religion anywhere in western world. If the French want to live by this mantra of muscular liberalism at all costs, then they should be big enough to take these repercussions also. As these countries and their citizens are more than welcome to any form of protest as they deem appropriate.
They show the true face of islam much more than the few westernized muslims that have embraced freedom of religion or the taqiya muslims in the West who will play nice while keep on pushing the bounderies. It's never hard to find some hysterical savage mob in some islamic country calling for some head because some Westerner said something about islam. But that is and should remain their problem. France would be smart to make the not so moderate majority of the muslim community understand that freedom of religion works both ways and the only freedom of religion to enjoy for French muslims is the freedom of religion for all the French, including teachers, cartoonists, apostates, gays and women without a headscarf.
 

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What do you mean 'most muslims would not accept the cartoons'? If you don't accept them you're just as much the problem as the 'extreme minority' that advocates violent action.

The question here wether religious rules apply to the non-religous too. Not accepting the cartoons is essentially different from not drawing or spreading the cartoons because that's not acceptable for muslims because of their own reliigous rules. Just like some people don't eat shellfish, don't work on sundays and don't swear. Not accepting that infidels don't abide you're religious rules is an attack on the same freedom of religion that allows muslims to practice their religion in Europe in the first place.

So either you believe in freedom of religion so everybody with different beliefs can live together, or you believe that islam rules supreme and other people have to abide to islamic rules too. For the latter is no place in Europe, but there are many. Also when it comes to alcohol, eating porc, christian symbols, not wearing a veil, holocaust education a lot of muslims don't respect the freedom
No, it's not. It's not about multiculturalism and plurality, it's about the monocultural and single minded oppressive islam running havoc through France. Just like islam is wrecking societies everywhere because it's intolerant by nature and design. France hasn't been muscular uptil now, France just has the biggest problem with islam because it has the most muslims and isn't bending over as easily as the British.

They show the true face of islam much more than the few westernized muslims that have embraced freedom of religion or the taqiya muslims in the West who will play nice while keep on pushing the bounderies. It's never hard to find some hysterical savage mob in some islamic country calling for some head because some Westerner said something about islam. But that is and should remain their problem. France would be smart to make the not so moderate majority of the muslim community understand that freedom of religion works both ways and the only freedom of religion to enjoy for French muslims is the freedom of religion for all the French, including teachers, cartoonists, apostates, gays and women without a headscarf.
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What do you mean 'most muslims would not accept the cartoons'? If you don't accept them you're just as much the problem as the 'extreme minority' that advocates violent action.

The question here wether religious rules apply to the non-religous too. Not accepting the cartoons is essentially different from not drawing or spreading the cartoons because that's not acceptable for muslims because of their own reliigous rules. Just like some people don't eat shellfish, don't work on sundays and don't swear. Not accepting that infidels don't abide you're religious rules is an attack on the same freedom of religion that allows muslims to practice their religion in Europe in the first place.

So either you believe in freedom of religion so everybody with different beliefs can live together, or you believe that islam rules supreme and other people have to abide to islamic rules too. For the latter is no place in Europe, but there are many. Also when it comes to alcohol, eating porc, christian symbols, not wearing a veil, holocaust education a lot of muslims don't respect the freedom
No, it's not. It's not about multiculturalism and plurality, it's about the monocultural and single minded oppressive islam running havoc through France. Just like islam is wrecking societies everywhere because it's intolerant by nature and design. France hasn't been muscular uptil now, France just has the biggest problem with islam because it has the most muslims and isn't bending over as easily as the British.

They show the true face of islam much more than the few westernized muslims that have embraced freedom of religion or the taqiya muslims in the West who will play nice while keep on pushing the bounderies. It's never hard to find some hysterical savage mob in some islamic country calling for some head because some Westerner said something about islam. But that is and should remain their problem. France would be smart to make the not so moderate majority of the muslim community understand that freedom of religion works both ways and the only freedom of religion to enjoy for French muslims is the freedom of religion for all the French, including teachers, cartoonists, apostates, gays and women without a headscarf.
Spotted the islamophobe.
 

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I would like to know of folks who grew up muslims or in a muslim household -- practicing or non practicing if they have ever heard of or been talked to about practicing "taqiya". Reminds me of "scheming/planning jews".
 

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What do you mean 'most muslims would not accept the cartoons'? If you don't accept them you're just as much the problem as the 'extreme minority' that advocates violent action.

The question here wether religious rules apply to the non-religous too. Not accepting the cartoons is essentially different from not drawing or spreading the cartoons because that's not acceptable for muslims because of their own reliigous rules. Just like some people don't eat shellfish, don't work on sundays and don't swear. Not accepting that infidels don't abide you're religious rules is an attack on the same freedom of religion that allows muslims to practice their religion in Europe in the first place.

So either you believe in freedom of religion so everybody with different beliefs can live together, or you believe that islam rules supreme and other people have to abide to islamic rules too. For the latter is no place in Europe, but there are many. Also when it comes to alcohol, eating porc, christian symbols, not wearing a veil, holocaust education a lot of muslims don't respect the freedom
No, it's not. It's not about multiculturalism and plurality, it's about the monocultural and single minded oppressive islam running havoc through France. Just like islam is wrecking societies everywhere because it's intolerant by nature and design. France hasn't been muscular uptil now, France just has the biggest problem with islam because it has the most muslims and isn't bending over as easily as the British.

They show the true face of islam much more than the few westernized muslims that have embraced freedom of religion or the taqiya muslims in the West who will play nice while keep on pushing the bounderies. It's never hard to find some hysterical savage mob in some islamic country calling for some head because some Westerner said something about islam. But that is and should remain their problem. France would be smart to make the not so moderate majority of the muslim community understand that freedom of religion works both ways and the only freedom of religion to enjoy for French muslims is the freedom of religion for all the French, including teachers, cartoonists, apostates, gays and women without a headscarf.
:lol: ok hun.
 

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I'm not sure how any rational person wouldn't be concerned about islam in the western world. If that's islamophobia then sign me up!
Then you need to get out more.

I wonder what the Iraqi street trader thinks of the west after their little escapade 20-odd years ago? Or the Libyan, Afghan or Syrian?

It's not a black and white situation.
 

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Spotted the islamophobe.
Ah, islamophobia, the magic word by the muslim brotherhood.

I'm sure Samuel Paty experienced this irrational fear of islam just when his throat was cut with a kitchen knife. It's the same irrational fear that shuts up so many teachers, journalists, comedians, cartoonists and writers. If only they knew how islam truly is and be rational about it...

I actually respect them and the decision they make for their own safety. It's the extreme cowardice to even in the safety of an internetforum not even acknowledge the threat that I feel nothing but contempt for. Or are you afraid a policeman is going to pay you a visit to talk about your views, I've understood that's Britain these days.
 

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I'm not sure how any rational person wouldn't be concerned about islam in the western world. If that's islamophobia then sign me up!
Concern is valid. Destroying and looting middle east only to have the same crazy folks flood the nation -- it's a messed up situation isn't it?

Labelling a majority of muslims as practicing "Taqiya" is the same as white folks talking about reverse racism.
 

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Ah, islamophobia, the magic word by the muslim brotherhood.

I'm sure Samuel Paty experienced this irrational fear of islam just when his throat was cut with a kitchen knife. It's the same irrational fear that shuts up so many teachers, journalists, comedians, cartoonists and writers. If only they knew how islam truly is and be rational about it...

I actually respect them and the decision they make for their own safety. It's the extreme cowardice to even in the safety of an internetforum not even acknowledge the threat that I feel nothing but contempt for. Or are you afraid a policeman is going to pay you a visit to talk about your views, I've understood that's Britain these days.
There's no magic in it. It's just being a pathetic sad little Islamophobe who can't think beyond the confines of hate fear and war.
 

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I would like to know of folks who grew up muslims or in a muslim household -- practicing or non practicing if they have ever heard of or been talked to about practicing "taqiya". Reminds me of "scheming/planning jews".
Didn't even know what it was until the internet age when even Dave from around the corner became an expert on Islam.
 

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Exactly. I am yet to hear of even an ex-muslim or someone who grew up around muslims to have heard/practiced taqqiya. If this isn't a blatant xenophobic attack on muslims then what is?

Same people will talk about muslims not integrating with western society when they are denying Muslims who are trying their best -- "meh if they seem nice and integrated they're probably lying".

It's some messed up stuff.
 

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What’s the caf attitude on these boycotts of French products?

Seems to be a bit misguided to me. Were they just as vocal/active when they heard of the violence done in Islam’s name (the attack on Hebdo HQ, the latest beheading, etc)?
What's the world attitude on genocide towards millions of Muslims in China?

Are they just as vocal when they heard of the violence done in Islam's name(about ten people involved in Charlie Hebdo, the latest beheading of few people, etc)?

What a stupid post.
 

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Exactly. I am yet to hear of even an ex-muslim or someone who grew up around muslims to have heard/practiced taqqiya. If this isn't a blatant xenophobic attack on muslims then what is?

Same people will talk about muslims not integrating with western society when they are denying Muslims who are trying their best -- "meh if they seem nice and integrated they're probably lying".

It's some messed up stuff.
I mean it's the same old clichés which get parroted everytime an attack like this happens, Muslims are barbaric, they are trying to take over, they're rapists, wife beaters, inherently violent etc. The caricature has been pretty much set in stone now.
 

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It has to taken in the bigger picture. The beheading is horrible and should not have happened at all. No one should condone it or accept it. Everyone should condemn it.
It's the freedom of speech in some countries.
But what is very hypocritical is the uproar about the boycott. France can't have it both ways. Marcon can't have the cartoons approved by him and then don't accept when some people call for a boycott of French products.
I'm sorry what now? No other country has the right to tell the French what can or cannot be shown in their own culture. Do those same countries listen when western countries protest about anti-semitic drawings or speech in their countries? France is a secular nation, and will never allow other nations to limit their freedom of speech, and rightly so. If those countries want to boycott then as far as I'm concerned France should fully reciprocate.

Also get involved in the domestic matters in Muslim countries in supporting radical muslim groups.
I might have missed something, but which 'radical Muslim groups' has Macron been supporting in Muslim countries?
 

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What's the world attitude on genocide towards millions of Muslims in China?

Are they just as vocal when they heard of the violence done in Islam's name(about ten people involved in Charlie Hebdo, the latest beheading of few people, etc)?

What a stupid post.
Interesting response with no answers.
 

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Interesting response with no answers.
The answer is that no one cares about French products, and that you are wrong, many muslim people cared about Charlie Hebdo. Even more than when their muslim brothers died all around the world in kuch bigger numbers.

Regarding my question, no one cares about genocide towards muslims.
 
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I'm sorry what now? No other country has the right to tell the French what can or cannot be shown in their own culture. Do those same countries listen when western countries protest about anti-semitic drawings or speech in their countries? France is a secular nation, and will never allow other nations to limit their freedom of speech, and rightly so. If those countries want to boycott then as far as I'm concerned France should fully reciprocate.



I might have missed something, but which 'radical Muslim groups' has Macron been supporting in Muslim countries?
Unfortunately for France, it seems that they don't like this particular consequence.


So the likelihood of a counter-boycott is about as likely as either of our teams winning the CL this season.
 

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I'm sorry what now? No other country has the right to tell the French what can or cannot be shown in their own culture. Do those same countries listen when western countries protest about anti-semitic drawings or speech in their countries? France is a secular nation, and will never allow other nations to limit their freedom of speech, and rightly so. If those countries want to boycott then as far as I'm concerned France should fully reciprocate.



I might have missed something, but which 'radical Muslim groups' has Macron been supporting in Muslim countries?
There was the very active French involvement in the over throw of Gaddafi in Libya. The country is a mess with all sorts of extremists running all over the country. One of the most developed countries in Africa is now back to the dark ages.
Their current involvement in Syria. Again Assad maybe a murderer and murdered hundreds of thousands of his own people but the French had no right to get involved and send troops to a foreign country. Most of what the French support are Al Nusra. Yes I am not mentioning the US because this topic has nothing to do with them.
 

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Exactly. I am yet to hear of even an ex-muslim or someone who grew up around muslims to have heard/practiced taqqiya. If this isn't a blatant xenophobic attack on muslims then what is?
I agree it's a dangerous notion, but it's not non-existent.

Same people will talk about muslims not integrating with western society when they are denying Muslims who are trying their best -- "meh if they seem nice and integrated they're probably lying".

It's some messed up stuff.
It does happen that muslims who seem integrated turn out to be far less integrated if certain questions arise. The but brigade in case of for example the Hebdo attacks is for a large part non-muslims, a truly sad bunch, so that doesn't even really mean they're not integrated. But it's not uncommon for seemingly integrated muslism to come up with extremely conservative views. I can only admire people that free themselves from islamic conservatism or islam alltogether and rather face a few disappointments than give up on them beforehand. But it's not me who makes it tricky and complicated. When it comes to the community as a whole there is also a tendency to start nice and polite, but when it's established in numbers somewhere they get a lot more demanding.

What's the world attitude on genocide towards millions of Muslims in China?

Are they just as vocal when they heard of the violence done in Islam's name(about ten people involved in Charlie Hebdo, the latest beheading of few people, etc)?

What a stupid post.
What's the muslim world's attitude on the muslims in China? Are they just as vocal about that as about cartoons and shut downs of extremist mosques, or do they know Europeans have a soft spot that China hasn't? If the muslim world has no plans with Europe, why does so much attention, oil money, extremist imam's and muslim 'refugees' go to Europe? It's not like muslims help eachother out everywhere on earth and the oil countries welcome their fellow muslims like the Europeans do.
 

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I'm sorry what now? No other country has the right to tell the French what can or cannot be shown in their own culture. Do those same countries listen when western countries protest about anti-semitic drawings or speech in their countries? France is a secular nation, and will never allow other nations to limit their freedom of speech, and rightly so. If those countries want to boycott then as far as I'm concerned France should fully reciprocate.



I might have missed something, but which 'radical Muslim groups' has Macron been supporting in Muslim countries?

Not what you are asking but France is a strong ally of Saudi Arabia -- a country that has defamed the whole muslims world and caused problems in almost every muslim country by sponsoring all kinds of thoughts and ideas that lead to what happened in Paris.

If France is so concerned about it, why not cut ties with Saudi Arabia?
I agree it's a dangerous notion, but it's not non-existent.

It does happen that muslims who seem integrated turn out to be far less integrated if certain questions arise. The but brigade in case of for example the Hebdo attacks is for a large part non-muslims, a truly sad bunch, so that doesn't even really mean they're not integrated. But it's not uncommon for seemingly integrated muslism to come up with extremely conservative views. I can only admire people that free themselves from islamic conservatism or islam alltogether and rather face a few disappointments than give up on them beforehand. But it's not me who makes it tricky and complicated. When it comes to the community as a whole there is also a tendency to start nice and polite, but when it's established in numbers somewhere they get a lot more demanding.

What's the muslim world's attitude on the muslims in China? Are they just as vocal about that as about cartoons and shut downs of extremist mosques, or do they know Europeans have a soft spot that China hasn't? If the muslim world has no plans with Europe, why does so much attention, oil money, extremist imam's and muslim 'refugees' go to Europe? It's not like muslims help eachother out everywhere on earth and the oil countries welcome their fellow muslims like the Europeans do.
The irony. "dangerous notion but not non-existant" and then go on to criticize muslims who are by your definition fully integrated in society "but" have some conservative views that you don't agree with?

It is also no uncommon for seemingly integrated white people to come with "extremely conservative views" of white supremacy. Also not uncommon for seemingly integrated person to become a criminal.

You can admire those who "free themselves" and stay a holier than thou asshole. I'm sure I along with others admire those who stand for what they believe in despite the growing xenophobic pressures from people like you. Be that wearing a hijab or growing beard or wearing traditional white clothes. Praying when they want to in public without fear of being persecuted, being able to have a say in their society. That's who I admire.

It is definitely clowns like you that make it tricky. Who think muslims need to go through some sort of weird acceptance test when they have done nothing wrong. Why should you subjugate and interrogate muslims every time there is a terror attack? If only you realized it makes it more difficult for muslims to carry practicing their religion you would understand.

"They" get demanding because of ignorant folk like yourself. Instead of understanding the problems faced by 1/6th of the worlds population you still carry on with the "backwards cnut some of which who have broken through".

Shameful.
 

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Not what you are asking but France is a strong ally of Saudi Arabia -- a country that has defamed the whole muslims world and caused problems in almost every muslim country by sponsoring all kinds of thoughts and ideas that lead to what happened in Paris.

If France is so concerned about it, why not cut ties with Saudi Arabia?


The irony. "dangerous notion but not non-existant" and then go on to criticize muslims who are by your definition fully integrated in society "but" have some conservative views that you don't agree with?

It is also no uncommon for seemingly integrated white people to come with "extremely conservative views" of white supremacy. Also not uncommon for seemingly integrated person to become a criminal.

You can admire those who "free themselves" and stay a holier than thou asshole. I'm sure I along with others admire those who stand for what they believe in despite the growing xenophobic pressures from people like you. Be that wearing a hijab or growing beard or wearing traditional white clothes. Praying when they want to in public without fear of being persecuted, being able to have a say in their society. That's who I admire.

It is definitely clowns like you that make it tricky. Who think muslims need to go through some sort of weird acceptance test when they have done nothing wrong. Why should you subjugate and interrogate muslims every time there is a terror attack? If only you realized it makes it more difficult for muslims to carry practicing their religion you would understand.

"They" get demanding because of ignorant folk like yourself. Instead of understanding the problems faced by 1/6th of the worlds population you still carry on with the "backwards cnut some of which who have broken through".

Shameful.
This Muslim right here would endorse such an action. As well as likely c.800 million other Muslims around the world.
 

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Kind of off topic, but what is it that Morocco gets right? Is it that the government is moderate and demands their imams to be licensed and trained by the government? Maybe that’s the way forward in other countries.